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to think Dominic Cummings should go/thread 4

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SophieB100 · 27/05/2020 14:10

New thread to discuss the cummings and goings of the PM's chief adviser.

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CendrillonSings · 29/05/2020 12:53

Peregrina

I think it smacks a bit of Cummings Derangement Syndrome to blame that on him. Lockdown was the correct public health policy whether Cummings travelled to Durham or not. In fact, I remember people whining that the government was avoiding lockdown because they wanted ‘herd immunity’ - would you have preferred that policy instead?

FliesandPies · 29/05/2020 12:57

Not everyone loses their perspective at the sight of a media feeding-frenzy.

No but they sure get the wind up when hundreds of their constituents email them to complain about Cummings.

Peregrina · 29/05/2020 12:59

Your answer Cendrillon doesn't explain why you think people who have lost loved ones without being able to comfort them or attend their funeral will think 'Whatever, a death is nothing in comparison to poor little Dominic having to run the length of the country because he can't look after a 4 year old.'

Perhaps you would care to give us a a definition of hypocrisy, because that is what people are annoyed about.

derxa · 29/05/2020 12:59

I'm enjoying the drama. If people on here are saying they are going against guidelines because of Cummings then that really isn't very smart is it? The underlying idea is that stupid 'hard of thinking' people will break lockdown meaning the great unwashed.

YouTheCat · 29/05/2020 13:03

But their 'lock down', which was pathetically inadequate, has meant they are still going for herd immunity even if that's not what they're calling it. We have not flattened the curve and there are thousands of new cases every week (nearly 2000 yesterday). They are lying to us.

itsgettingweird · 29/05/2020 13:03

I'm sticking very much to what I've been doing.

Still do not go to public places like beach (5 minutes drive) but because of others - because there is the risk others "why don't have to if DC didn't" will directly impact me.

But my following lockdown and my disagreeing with the situation are entirely different situations.

YouTheCat · 29/05/2020 13:05

I'm not easing my lock down.

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PotholeParadise · 29/05/2020 13:07

Derxa, I'm sure we were on the same threads a few weeks back about potentially infected people travelling from cities and laying their great unwashed hands on gates, and so infecting farmers.

IIRC you weren't keen on the prospect. How come it's now funny that a senior figure was doing that with petrol pumps and is now getting government ministers to bullshit about it?

Roussette · 29/05/2020 13:07

CendrillonSings
No one is complaining about the lockdown, and no of course the initial herd immunity idea was brutal.
The complaints are about the chief adviser Cummings, the architect of StayAtHome, ignoring the StayAtHome bit.

If you haven't got that yet, I'm a bit concerned for you.

CendrillonSings · 29/05/2020 13:07

We have not flattened the curve

Then show me a single graph proving that either cases or deaths have not been massively flattened during lockdown. You won’t be able to.

bobtrain · 29/05/2020 13:11

I would never have a melt down about anything. I am too laid back. Hence my first comment on this sight for everyone to calm down.

Roussette · 29/05/2020 13:12

It's about spikes now. Not curves.

We are experiencing the VE day spike, and in a few weeks time it will be the 'Great Boris Unlocking'* spike

*Designed and timed to divert from his adviser DC

We might even have Rishi Sunak's 'Nando spike' as he was tweeting about that yesterday.

YouTheCat · 29/05/2020 13:14

Should have said 'not flattened the curve enough'.

This doesn't look that flat to me .

monkeyonthetable · 29/05/2020 13:14

I've signed the petition and written to my MP and come up with a four syllable instruction to dozy BoJo. Is there anything else I can do? I feel so so angry about this. It's not the act itself (though that is horrendous enough) - it's what it represents: their utter disregard for rules, propriety, public welfare. It's such a symbol of their Step Aside Peasant, My Needs Matter, Yours Don't ethos. I hate it and I despair deeply of the vast numbers who just don't get it, who didn't get why Brexit is a disaster, or why the Tories will never care about the best interests of the majority of this country.

FliesandPies · 29/05/2020 13:15

I'm enjoying the drama

That's odd, you said you were massively bored of it days ago.

derxa · 29/05/2020 13:15

How come it's now funny that a senior figure was doing that with petrol pumps and is now getting government ministers to bullshit about it? It's not funny. One individual's stupid actions shouldn't be used as an excuse for stupid behaviour. The frothing and political point scoring is funny.
I don't recall going on about touching gates. I'm sure I was concerned about people traipsing around the countryside with their dogs and endangering ewes and lambs. That still stands.

PotholeParadise · 29/05/2020 13:19

Ah, you were telling the farmers who were concerned about it to stop being so dramatic then?

I think you were (reasonably) curt with one poster who said farmers should just sanitise their own hands if they were worried about ramblers touching gates on the rights of way crossing their land.

sleepingpup · 29/05/2020 13:19

I'm enjoying the drama. If people on here are saying they are going against guidelines because of Cummings then that really isn't very smart is it? The underlying idea is that stupid 'hard of thinking' people will break lockdown meaning the great unwashed.

You're bored and attention seeking for the hell of it. Go outside for some sun. There are loads who care a lot.

You're mocking them.

Peregrina · 29/05/2020 13:20

derxa - people traipsed about the countryside before with their dogs endangering ewes and lambs, and those who were inconsiderate or ignorant enough then, will continue to do so, now and next year and the year after.

CendrillonSings · 29/05/2020 13:21

You’re quite right that it’s not ‘flat’ - the charts for ‘Daily New Cases’ and ‘Daily New Deaths’ peaked a long time ago, and are in continuing steep decline. National R is also still below 1.

Reopening the economy with a minimum of new cases and deaths is the balancing act that every affected country in the world is having to carefully perform - it’s not a plot by the Evil Tories to kill us all...

bobtrain · 29/05/2020 13:22

@monkeyonthetable

I've signed the petition and written to my MP and come up with a four syllable instruction to dozy BoJo. Is there anything else I can do? I feel so so angry about this. It's not the act itself (though that is horrendous enough) - it's what it represents: their utter disregard for rules, propriety, public welfare. It's such a symbol of their Step Aside Peasant, My Needs Matter, Yours Don't ethos. I hate it and I despair deeply of the vast numbers who just don't get it, who didn't get why Brexit is a disaster, or why the Tories will never care about the best interests of the majority of this country.
Get a grip. Take some valium.
sleepingpup · 29/05/2020 13:22

The frothing and political point scoring is funny.

Hilarious. 🙄 'Frothing' just demeans what some people are saying as if they have no valid reason to be upset and angry.

Like they don't have a decent opinion.

riveted1 · 29/05/2020 13:24

Petition if you would like to sign www.change.org/p/dominic-cummings-must-be-sacked

bobtrain · 29/05/2020 13:25

Finally a really sensible well balanced view.