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to think Dominic Cummings should go/thread 4

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SophieB100 · 27/05/2020 14:10

New thread to discuss the cummings and goings of the PM's chief adviser.

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HeIenaDove · 28/05/2020 00:03

Didnt take the DM long to revert back to type

twitter.com/carolecadwalla/status/1265775710586712067?s=20

manitobajane · 28/05/2020 00:07

his whole email reply is "mr Cummings doesn't believe he broke the rules"

@itsgettingweird that and shut up complaining about it and move on.

The man's a waste of space.

PigletJohn · 28/05/2020 00:25

Boris keeps telling the nation to "move on."

He's telling the wrong people.

He needs to tell Cummings.

We'll tell Boris.

Brutalhonestybrigade · 28/05/2020 00:30

This just gets better and better.

HeIenaDove · 28/05/2020 00:54

www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/coronavirus-emergency-cash-poor-england-hotspots-conservatives-a9528371.html

Coronavirus: Poorer areas miss out as £100m of emergency cash diverted to richer Tory councils with lower infection rates
Exclusive: Anger as ministers strip out deprivation weighting from grants to ‘fight the pandemic’ – despite higher infection rates in poorer neighbourhoods

Poorer parts of England, many of them Covid-19 hotspots, have lost out on more than £100m of emergency cash, after ministers diverted it to richer – mostly Tory-run – areas, a new analysis suggests.

The government stripped deprivation out of its calculations, despite announcing plans for that switch had been shelved – and despite saying the money was to “fight the pandemic”.

As a result, Labour-run councils which lost big sums include Sunderland (£3m), Knowsley (£2.6m), Sheffield (£2m), Gateshead (£2m), South Tyneside (£2m) and Oldham (£1.1m).

All are among the 10 areas of England with the highest rates of coronavirus infections, according to official figures, and among the most deprived.

Yet, when the cash was announced, local government minister Simon Clarke said it was to recognise that councils are “the unsung heroes of the fight against Covid-19” and faced huge extra costs as a result.

It is intended to fund getting rough sleepers off the streets and domestic abuse victims into safe accommodation, as well as to help manage funerals and bolster frontline services; all tasks more onerous in deprived areas with more virus cases.

The biggest losses in percentage terms were suffered by Knowsley (38.8 per cent), Blackpool (37.4 per cent), South Tyneside (32.8 per cent) and Liverpool (32 per cent), according to the Labour analysis seen by The Independent.

All are among the five poorest council areas, according to the government’s official index of multiple deprivation, except South Tyneside, which is 22nd
In stark contrast, the 10 richest areas all enjoyed huge boosts in funding, including (Wokingham £2.2m, 83 per cent), Buckinghamshire (£4.3m, 41 per cent), Windsor and Maidenhead (£1.7m, 39 per cent), Surrey (£8.1m, 32 per cent) and Oxfordshire (£4.7m, 32 per cent). All have Conservative-controlled councils.
The Labour analysis follows a study by the Health Foundation finding that the risk of dying from coronavirus is more than twice as great in the most deprived areas of England as in the least.

Steve Reed, the shadow local government secretary, condemned the way funds had been allocated after ministers “promised to fund ‘whatever it takes’ to get communities through this pandemic”.

Now the government is cutting emergency funding for areas with the highest rates of Covid-19 infection and diverting it to areas that are suffering less,” he told The Independent.

“This money was earmarked for fighting Covid-19, so it must go to the communities that need it the most. Emergency funding should go to areas with the highest rates of infection.”

Steve Rotheram, mayor of the Liverpool city region, said its authorities believed ministers had “pulled the rug from under them”, after promising they would receive “whatever it takes”.

“Now it’s ‘take whatever you are given’ and it’s noticeable that it’s Labour areas that have missed out in the second tranche,” he protested.
“It is disgraceful if funding is being allocated in that partisan way, after what ministers said about putting away party-political squabbles in a time of national crisis.”

In total, more than £100m was diverted from councils in the bottom half of the deprivation index, when £1.6bn of emergency grants were announced in late April, according to the Labour analysis.

That is the difference from the allocations to each town hall from the first £1.6bn pot, handed out in March, which did include deprivation in the weightings.
The second £1.6bn tranche was awarded on a per-capita basis, raising fears in town halls – which still face an estimated £10bn black hole because of coronavirus costs – that the method will be used for future allocations.

The future downgrading of deprivation was signalled in the so-called fair funding review which began under Theresa May and triggered loud protests.

However, it is supposed to be on hold, until April 2022, after poorer areas that delivered Boris Johnson’s general election triumph were among those facing big cuts.

A spokesperson for the Ministry of Housing, Communities and Local Government said: “We’re providing councils with an unprecedented £3.2bn in the fairest way possible and giving them the resources to tackle the immediate pressures they have told us they’re facing.

The two tranches of funding were allocated in different ways because they address different needs, but should be considered together as the true picture of this additional support.

HeIenaDove · 28/05/2020 00:57

Im beginning to see why they wanted to test the public reaction to the idea of housing estate lockdowns

HeIenaDove · 28/05/2020 00:58

@Brutalhonestybrigade that gave me a much needed laugh.

Cant wait for HIGNFY this Friday.

workercovid · 28/05/2020 01:46

Yes

manitobajane · 28/05/2020 01:49

The Labour analysis follows a study by the Health Foundation finding that the risk of dying from coronavirus is more than twice as great in the most deprived areas of England as in the least

That will make Boris rub his hands with glee no doubt. All those Labour voters dying.

InMySpareTime · 28/05/2020 05:16

Given the age profile for COVID mortality, I think it's still more likely that Tory voters are dying, even in Labour areas.

2020notQuiteAsPlanned · 28/05/2020 06:24

I am no fan of Boris but to suggest glee at people dying is going too far.

solieltoday · 28/05/2020 08:04

I don’t think anyone wants to see more people dying.

Unfortunately, we are the laughing stock of Europe. The “Brexit Govt” whose arrogance and incompetence has led to the highest death toll in Europe.

I can see the DC issue will just keep being batted off. They have years before re-election and they’ll sit it out. They prorogued Parliament; were found by the High Court to have lied about the reasons for this, yet they just carried in as if nothing happened. No apology - nothing.

They have thrown the “carrot” of the shops re-opening and now, the prospect of pubs, and they think that will br plenty to distract everyone.

Every move they make is designed to bolster their position. Nothing is accidental. Boris appears as a bumbling dimwit, but this is all part of DC’s strategy.

The issue is no longer headline news. A few MPs will speak out in Parliament, Boris will repeat his mantras and that will be it.

I’m amazed there’s no call as yet for public demos?

Violetparis · 28/05/2020 08:12

The BBC has said the app should be ready by the middle of June. On other threads when people have asked whether you would download the app I've said yes. I am really hesitant now as I've lost all trust in the government. I think the uptake numbers for the app will be lower after this weeks shambles. I'm going to send another email to my Tory MP and say I will only download the app if Dominic Cummings is sacked.

solieltoday · 28/05/2020 08:19

Yes but by mid-June, they won’t make the connection that people are refusing to download the app because of DC. They refuse to make connections that don’t suit them.

Even if lockdown and social distancing break down completely as of today, they won’t make the link or take any responsibility. He still won’t resign, even if there is a second wave and thousands more die.

Violetparis · 28/05/2020 08:27

soleiltoday that's why I am going to email my Tory MP to make sure someone in the Tory party does know why I won't be downloading the app.

whatshappeninginthisworld · 28/05/2020 08:31

Yes yes yes he should go!!

Pilcrow · 28/05/2020 08:44

He was shown at the back on ITV news.

AlsoHuman do you mean DC actually WAS seen at the Liaison Committee meeting, somewhere in the socially-distanced vicinity of Johnson? Thanks.

Alsohuman · 28/05/2020 10:10

Yes. He was sitting at the back, on Boris’ right. Where else would he be?

61 Tory MPs want him gone this morning. This isn’t going away.

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candycane222 · 28/05/2020 10:41

Apologies if this has been brought up before, but I've been wondering what Mary Wakefield's priest must be thinking .. after all her sanctimonious cant about it bringing her back to her religion, getting on her knees and praying that DC would survive etc...and he was driving up down and around the country all that time Hmm

sleepingpup · 28/05/2020 10:46

yep, it's all so shameless.

SophieB100 · 28/05/2020 10:46

Listened to Hancock on radio 4 this morning (as I was socially queuing outside Tesco).
How they've got the brass neck to lecture us on doing our "civic duty" regarding Track and Trace is astounding.

The interviewer asked, "Let me get this straight, if you test positive you stay home?" "Correct" replied Hancock. "So, if you isolate for 14 days, you absolutely can't travel, go anywhere, to a second home?" "Correct" said Hancock. So this then led to questions about Cummings, and Hancock blustered a bit and said the PM had addressed them in detail and it was time to move on. Before telling us we must do our civic duty.

I'll consider doing my civic duty when they sack Cummings. They can't have it both ways, they can't demand we take ourselves out of society for 14 days, whilst backing an adviser who flouted the rules when the R number was so much higher than it is now. The first week of lockdown was hell, we were all stunned and trying to get food, sort out work, care for elderly relatives and worried sick - and Cummings stuck two fingers up to the lot of us, and carried on as if the rules applied to everyone expect him.

Hypocrites.

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candycane222 · 28/05/2020 10:48

....and yeah, Johnson kept looking to his right, including to get the names of Priti Patel (and was it Jenny Harries?) when he was being challenged by Caroline Nokes about were there enough women in the room making decisions. Because obviously Johnson himself has no idea what their names are, that would be too much detail for him....

SophieB100 · 28/05/2020 10:52

Mrs C's article in Spectator about life in London lock down reported to regulator:
www.theguardian.com/politics/2020/may/28/quarantine-article-by-dominic-cummings-wife-reported-to-regulator

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candycane222 · 28/05/2020 10:52

yep, it was Jenny Harries twitter.com/anitathetweeter/status/1265752902393638917?s=20

candycane222 · 28/05/2020 10:56

Well spotted SophieB .. "potential factual inaccuracies"
sadly its now paywalled, though I have read it, but - sadly I'm not on my phone so no vom emoji. But god it was

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