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to think Dominic Cummings should go/thread 4

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SophieB100 · 27/05/2020 14:10

New thread to discuss the cummings and goings of the PM's chief adviser.

Previous thread:
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FliesandPies · 27/05/2020 21:25

Brexit needs to be sorted and MPs like mine won't condone this because they know that Boris needs DC to get anywhere with the next big problem heading our way

The next big problem heading our way (well, after the recession and 2nd wave) will be the mess Johnson and Cummings make of Brexit.

Lougle · 27/05/2020 21:27

It's a shame, when DC was stumbling over whether the 12th was day 14 or 15, a journalist didn't helpfully interject with "Mary's birthday...."

NoMoreReluctantCustodians · 27/05/2020 21:35

Guardian now reporting 59 Tory MPs criticising DC. It's like the Emperor's New Clothes

itsgettingweird · 27/05/2020 21:39

If she hasn't stepped back because of a few days ago she should after BJ nearly threw her under a bus earlier during committee liaisons.

itsgettingweird · 27/05/2020 21:47

Lougle I know! But the media seem to be clever here. They know there is no proof they because it was her birthday - despite us knowing that's why! But they do know he went - and it broke lockdown rules. And rather than defend the co incidence of the day the muppet said he went to test his eyesight was up to driving 🤦‍♀️

Alsohuman · 27/05/2020 21:48

59?! Bloody hell.

NoMoreReluctantCustodians · 27/05/2020 21:50

Yes @alsohuman but apparently only 43 calling for DC to go

The80sweregreat · 27/05/2020 21:50

Baroness Harding 'dido' (to her rich friends ) is going to be in charge of this new app.
She was brought up on pig farm! ( probably the one that supplied the Bullindon club with dead pigs for entertainment back in the day)
This app is appealing to me less and less.

StoneofDestiny · 27/05/2020 21:55

This government is a joke.

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HeIenaDove · 27/05/2020 22:02

Sam Coates Sky
@SamCoatesSky
NEW

Trace & test insider tonight told Sky News

  • Contact tracing at their level won’t go live tomorrow
  • They can’t yet input and receive data yet Cold face
  • They won’t start phone calls til next week

“Some have not even got their basic systems up and running

ChickenNuggetsChipsAndBeans · 27/05/2020 22:09

I spoke to a family friend today who is a paid up member of the conservative party.

All along she has been cheerful although dreadfully missing her family. Today she sounded broken and referenced Cummings.

Boris keeps on with the narrative that this a media bubble story bit there is palpable anger out there.

I think that this for the conservatives is going to be what Nick Clegg putting up tuition fees was for the lib dems, but worse. This time, milenials and boomers are United in their anger.

But that the ruin of the conservative party, doesn't give me a joy. Instead I cant shake this sadness and anger that in a time that we all came together we were so badly let down.

The media might move on, but I dont think I will.

HeIenaDove · 27/05/2020 22:12

in a time that we all came together we were so badly let down

The media might move on, but I dont think I will

Nails it!!

BigChocFrenzy · 27/05/2020 22:14

"The Durham Dash - a song for Dominic Cummings"

BigChocFrenzy · 27/05/2020 22:17

Cummings jokes have gone international

This is Dublin airport having a giggle:

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Notmyrealname855 · 27/05/2020 22:19

Boris calling this a “political ding-dong” is just offensive Angry Read the room, Bojo

NoMoreReluctantCustodians · 27/05/2020 22:21

That is brilliant choc

manitobajane · 27/05/2020 22:24

I've had this useless but predictable reply from my Tory yes man mp, obviously a standard reply sent by a minion

Thank you for your email regarding Dominic Cummings.

I have received many emails from constituents relating to Mr Cummings and his recent actions. These emails have contained a very wide range of views and opinions.

On 25th May, Dominic Cummings set out his account of what happened between 27th March and 14th April. He made it clear that he believes he did not flout social distancing rules at any point and he explained that he was concerned that he and his wife would not be able to look after their young son if they were about to be badly affected by Coronavirus - and therefore they drove to Durham to be near his family.

At a Downing Street press conference on 24th March, the Deputy Chief Medical Officer, Dr Jenny Harries, said parents who are ill and may not be able to look after a child created ‘exceptional circumstances’ where family members could be called upon to help.
Clearly Mr Cummings believes that his circumstances were exceptional and he does not believe he broke the Government’s guidelines.

While I and others may accept this interpretation, I recognise that many others may not. Some constituents have said that while they appreciate there is an element of personal judgement involved, they expect a higher bar for members of the government.
Many individuals and families have made huge personal sacrifices during the lockdown and I can understand the anger and frustration of people who believe others may not have also made such sacrifices.

The Government has endeavoured throughout the Coronavirus crisis to be transparent, clear and consistent about the rules. But I do understand that in some specific circumstances, decisions are sometimes subject to an element of personal judgement - especially when family are involved – and others may disagree with that judgement.

We have all made difficult decisions in this period and as we move out of lockdown it will become even more important to use good judgement and common sense to help control the virus and protect each other.

We must focus our efforts on the many challenges we still face. We must continue to fight the virus, prepare for the easing of measures at a safe pace, and restart the economy to provide families with economic security – and that is what I shall be working on.

Thank you again for contacting me on this matter.

derxa · 27/05/2020 22:38

She was brought up on pig farm! ( probably the one that supplied the Bullindon club with dead pigs for entertainment back in the day)
Yawn

MissEliza · 27/05/2020 22:44

Did anyone see the 'bust-up' between Saints Khan and Janet Street Porter on Loose Women? SK was absolutely livid at JSP defending DC. I know exactly how she feels. IIRC she was particularly upset that her dm hadn't seen her family for so long because they were all abiding by the rules. This is exactly how millions of us feel. I've been in a state of anxiety many evenings worrying about my df alone many hundreds of miles away. My dh suggested travelling to him early in the lockdown but I said 'no it's quite clearly against the rules'. What a mug I was.

Peregrina · 27/05/2020 22:45

But that the ruin of the conservative party, doesn't give me a joy. Instead I cant shake this sadness and anger that in a time that we all came together we were so badly let down.

The ruin of this incarnation of the Tory party would give me great joy. At one time it was possible to vote Conservative but still have a moral compass. Now, if our PM and those Cabinet ministers who have bent over backwards to support Cummings are typical, the only thing which matters is how much money you can shovel to your friends, and if you are caught making an error of judgement or worse, breaking the law, you don't have the integrity to resign, you lie and lie your way out of it.

itsgettingweird · 27/05/2020 22:51

Manito his whole email reply is "mr Cummings doesn't believe he broke the rules"

I mean who gives a shot what Cummings thinks? He doesn't get to chose if he broke them or not.

I don't get to rob a bank and then decide I didn't break the law so the police can do one!

And they really are throwing Jenny Harries under the bus.

She said clearly if parents couldn't care for a child. Mentioned extreme risk to life. And actually said she ain't commenting on this case but in general.

She never once said she thought travelling just in case you needed childcare at some point was an exceptional circumstance Angry

Lucywilde · 27/05/2020 22:54

Someone mentioned BJ looking to the right quite a lot tonight and looking at bits of paper. Do we think our unofficial PM DC was there?

This whole thing is staggering and so utterly corrupt. A political ding dong is so arrogant and patronising.

I also don’t see why we didn’t use the Apple or google template but then I suppose that would mean not giving money to any of BJ’s or DC’s dodgy little friends.

Am utter fuck up which leaves me really worried on what advice to follow.

PotholeParadise · 27/05/2020 23:09

Someone mentioned BJ looking to the right quite a lot tonight and looking at bits of paper. Do we think our unofficial PM DC was there?

According to columnist John Crace, he was.

www.theguardian.com/politics/2020/may/27/boris-johnson-showman-out-of-his-depth-john-crace

PotholeParadise · 27/05/2020 23:10

Although I think John Crace is also speculating on this, rather than that he could see firsthand.

Alsohuman · 28/05/2020 00:01

He was shown at the back on ITV news.