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to think Dominic Cummings should go/thread 4

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SophieB100 · 27/05/2020 14:10

New thread to discuss the cummings and goings of the PM's chief adviser.

Previous thread:
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/3919707-to-think-Dominic-Cummings-should-go-thread-3

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Pilcrow · 28/05/2020 10:57

Also thanks. I thought that's what you must mean but it's still stunned me. They really do take us all for utter fools, don't they?

SophieB100 · 28/05/2020 11:03

Quarantine Spectator article - Guardian

The article that appeared in the Spectator at the end of April painted a picture of a family in turmoil during a pandemic, with a wife describing the anguish of watching as her husband “lay doggo” with Covid-19 for 10 days before they emerged from quarantine “into the almost comical uncertainty of London lockdown”.

The column by the magazine’s commissioning editor, Mary Wakefield, about life with her husband, Dominic Cummings, was classic material for the high-Tory magazine: confessional and full of personal details about individuals at the top of British politics, earning the interest of Radio 4’s Today programme, which asked her to read out key details.

Never mind that the couple originally emerged from self-isolation in Durham, where they’d travelled during lockdown. And that they had made a 60-mile round trip to a beauty spot to check Cummings’ eyesight, too – both points that were absent from the article.

The Spectator, owned by the warring Barclay brothers, is at the centre of a web connecting Cummings, Wakefield – and the prime minister himself.

On Wednesday, a spokesperson for Ipso, the press regulator which covers the Spectator, told the Guardian it had received two complaints from members of the public about potential factual inaccuracies in the 1,000-word column by Wakefield, which will mean the magazine will have to justify the article and could result in it being required to publish a correction.

Inconsistencies between Cummings’ lockdown story and his wife’s
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In the process, the Spectator has found itself at the centre of yet another scandal at the heart of Conservative politics. Despite its relatively niche status – its 80,000 print and digital subscribers make it a financial success but give it a limited readership in the scale of modern media – its influence and connections to the current government and wider media world are substantial.

Wakefield herself is a fixture of the magazine, having first written for it two decades ago when, just after university, she won a travel writing prize. The editor at the time – and one of the judges – was an up-and-coming journalist and would-be Tory MP called Boris Johnson, who was already setting about making the magazine a byword for Westminster intrigue with his colourful love life and public apologies during an era which saw the magazine dubbed the “Sextator” for his and others’ antics.

The daughter of a baronet, Wakefield grew up at Chillingham Castle – a large country house deep in the Northumberland countryside, an hour’s drive north of Newcastle. Her father, formerly employed by the auction house Christie’s, took possession of the property in the early 1980s and painstakingly restored it after it had been derelict for 50 years. The house is so grand that it was used as the set for key scenes in the 1997 film Elizabeth, starring Cate Blanchett.

After rising quickly up the Spectator’s ranks to become deputy editor, Wakefield has remained a core part of the Spectator team, albeit with a limited public profile. One former colleague praised her editing skills and suggested she had a different political approach to her husband, describing her as a “compassionate conservative” who is less involved in aggressive day-to-day politics than the journalistic partners of other leading politicians. “She isn’t Sarah Vine [wife of Michael Gove, and a Daily Mail columnist] ... she’s just his wife, she loves him, she’s got her own thing, they’re very different,” the former colleague said.

Wakefield, 45, has so far worked under three editors and stayed on when the current boss, Fraser Nelson, was appointed in 2010, despite herself being viewed as a potential candidate for the top job. “I think in a different world she might have been the first female editor of the Spectator,” said the former colleague.

Her career as a journalist at a politics-heavy magazine is perhaps ironic, given her husband’s public insistence that he thinks little of the profession and political reporters in particular.

However, biographies of Cummings often overlook his brief journalism career at the Spectator. In 2006 the future prime ministerial aide left his position as the magazine’s online boss after he briefly published a cartoon on the Spectator’s website of the prophet Muhammad with a bomb in his turban, following the lead of a Danish newspaper which had prompted an international row about the limits of free speech.

“I didn’t think it was a wise thing,” said the then acting editor Stuart Reid.

In another sign of the magazine’s role at the centre of a web of political connections, his departure was ultimately overseen by the Spectator chairman, Andrew Neil, who continues to hold the role at the Barclay Brothers-owned magazine in addition to his job as a BBC political interviewer.

When Cummings was contacted by the Guardian in 2006 to clarify his role at the Spectator and the decision to publish the drawing, he said: “I have zero comment.” Fourteen years later, No 10 gave similar responses on his behalf to requests for comment from Guardian reporters on whether he had travelled to Durham during lockdown in late March.

Wakefield has so far remained silent on the apparent lockdown breach, other than favouriting a number of supportive tweets suggesting the media were exaggerating the importance of the incident. A spokesperson for the Spectator, which has carried comment pieces arguing that Cummings must be sacked, said: “We are happy to let our coverage speak for itself.”

One of the unanswered questions about the incident is why Cummings felt the need to check his eyesight by driving to Barnard Castle, rather than ask his wife to take the wheel on the long drive down the A1 back to London. Wakefield herself is known to have driven: the award-winning travel writing piece that helped her get the Spectator job describes her driving across Texas.

@candycane222
Here it is, copy and pasted in case other's can't read it.

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bobtrain · 28/05/2020 11:04

So you will only consider doing your civic duty when D.C. is sacked. What will happen then if you get covid 19. Not tell anyone? Let someone die because of a principal?

Humphriescushion · 28/05/2020 11:06

Oh thats interesting thanks. And i did wonder why he kept glancing to the side in the meeting.

Peregrina · 28/05/2020 11:16

How does anyone now know what their civic duty is?

candycane222 · 28/05/2020 11:16

Ah thanks Sophie actually it was Mary Wakefields tear-sodden and prayer-begirt tissue of confected alibi-ery that I couldn't read ... although the guardian piece was a lot easier going seeing as I am not currently in need of an emetic!

Roussette · 28/05/2020 11:17

bobtrain
No. I will do what I have to do to keep my family and others safe.

However, this is not going away and I, personally, will do my best to make sure of that.

YouTheCat · 28/05/2020 11:18

Bob, go back to your trainset. Grown ups are talking.

Peregrina · 28/05/2020 11:19

What will happen then if you get covid 19.

If you suspect that you have it but don't know - go for a drive the length of the country to see if you can shake it off. If you manage the drive you will know you just had a bug but not Covid 19.

candycane222 · 28/05/2020 11:20

I would appreciate a bit of leadership to bring the nation back together in defiance of the UnGovernment. Can the 3 non-England leaderships, the opposition parties and the churches, Mosques, temples etc come together with coal authorities and take over??

So we can actually get on top of covid, together, as we have shown as a nation we could, instead of just putting up with a flim-flam cardboard stage set of "getting on top of covid" in which absolutely nothing works, while hiding behind it and raking up our cash into their pockets?

bobtrain · 28/05/2020 11:56

I like my train set. It will keep going. May not be a reliable service however.

ChickenNuggetsChipsAndBeans · 28/05/2020 11:59

With regards to my civic duty, I will not download the app whilst Dominic Cummings is in post.

I have written to my MP and he has not responded or publically said anything.

I have signed the petition, that's not going to make a difference. So this will be my next demonstration of my frustration.

YouTheCat · 28/05/2020 12:13

Hahaha Grin

derxa · 28/05/2020 12:40

With regards to my civic duty, I will not download the app whilst Dominic Cummings is in post. But why? Don't you want to be better than him?

chomalungma · 28/05/2020 12:53

Telegraph Breaking News
@TelegraphNews
EXCLUSIVE: Dominic Cummings did break lockdown rules when he made a 50 mile journey to Barnard Castle

manitobajane · 28/05/2020 12:56

@chomalungma

Telegraph Breaking News *@TelegraphNews* EXCLUSIVE: Dominic Cummings did break lockdown rules when he made a 50 mile journey to Barnard Castle
Damn, I thought it was going to be breaking news of a resignation/sacking.

as for I am no fan of Boris but to suggest glee at people dying is going too far.

Yes, it was now it's daytime and my inner cynic is doing as she is told whereas in the middle of the night she sometimes gets away with things.

SophieB100 · 28/05/2020 12:57

I will use my instinct as to what my civic duty actually is. I will act reasonably and legally.
As an aside, Durham police reporting that Cummings did break the lock down rules.

Copy/paste:

Durham police say Dominic Cummings did breach lockdown rules, according to report
The prime minister’s most senior adviser did breach lockdown rules when he made the 50-mile trip to Barnard Castle, an investigation by Durham police has reportedly found.

Dominic Cummings claimed he made the journey on 12 April – Easter Sunday and his wife’s birthday – with his wife and four-year-old son to check his eyesight was sound before travelling back to London.

He has maintained that he acted “lawfully and reasonably” when he journeyed 264 miles north to self-isolate on his parent’s farm in County Durham at the end of March, at the height of the pandemic.

The Telegraph (paywall) reports that the Durham Police investigation has concluded that this was a minor breach of the guidelines that did not warrant any further action.

More on this story to follow.

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Mittens030869 · 28/05/2020 13:04

The one thing that I do strongly object to is having been told that DC acted as he did out of his parental instincts to safeguard his DS. How is shutting him in a car with the virus protecting him? When I developed COVID-19 symptoms early on, my instinct was to self-isolate in order to protect my DDs from the virus. (DD2 (8) did have the symptoms but at least it wasn’t because of my own actions.)

The80sweregreat · 28/05/2020 13:52

Breaking news on DM web page that the police said DC did break lockdown rules!

SophieB100 · 28/05/2020 13:56

We are not worthy.
Boris is going to do today's briefing.
He has been a busy bee this week.

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The80sweregreat · 28/05/2020 13:58

Ahh, won't take any further action ..
sorry didn't see that bit.
So that's moving on now I guess.

SophieB100 · 28/05/2020 14:02

Well, they are taking no further action, and the PM is standing by him.
But, Boris said he acted legally. The police say otherwise. Regardless of not taking action, it goes against Boris saying it was legal.

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2020notQuiteAsPlanned · 28/05/2020 14:26

@SophieB100
Boris today again - we are honoured.
So it will be short, many questions not answered and follows not allowed.....
I wonder who the medic/scientist/other will be?

Alsohuman · 28/05/2020 14:27

Another bloody shambles to look forward to.

Clavinova · 28/05/2020 14:31

Durham police say Dominic Cummings did breach lockdown rules, according to report.The prime minister’s most senior adviser did breach lockdown rules when he made the 50-mile trip to Barnard Castle, an investigation by Durham police has reportedly found.

Not quite -

"Dominic Cummings may have committed a "minor breach" of lockdown rules when he made a journey to Barnard Castle, Durham Police's investigation has concluded." ...

Durham Police say that in making the 52-mile round journey, there might have been a minor breach of coronavirus regulations that "would have warranted police intervention".

www.itv.com/news/2020-05-28/durham-police-concludes-dominic-cummings-barnard-castle-trip-was-minor-breach-of-lockdown-rules/