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to think Dominic Cummings should go/thread 4

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SophieB100 · 27/05/2020 14:10

New thread to discuss the cummings and goings of the PM's chief adviser.

Previous thread:
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JamieLeeCurtains · 27/05/2020 19:52

Aye, Baroness TalkTalk

Clavinova · 27/05/2020 19:52

And what happened to the witness who says they saw DC on the 19th April?

Clavinova · 27/05/2020 19:54

They might be relevant to police malpractice, but please explain why they are relevant to the specific question of whether DC broke lock down rules?

Specifically they have helped to whip up the frenzy.

merrymouse · 27/05/2020 19:56

And what happened to the witness who says they saw DC on the 19th April?

Again how is this relevant?

A story was reported to the Guardian and the Mirror. They did their best to check the story, but it seems likely that the witness was confused about the dates. DC and the government were given the chance to comment and correct the story before publication, but refused.

It is still clear that DC broke the rules when he visited Barnard Castle on Easter Sunday.

itsgettingweird · 27/05/2020 19:57

I guess the question is then - why did the friend ring the police on the families behalf? If someone has concerns they ring themselves - no?

And they said it was when they contacted him he then raised the security point.

I never thought about the police bit much because to me it didn't matter. But it's sounder odder the more they say.

Like Cummings bedtime story he read Monday evening.

The more they say the more it just seems absurd Confused

mbosnz · 27/05/2020 19:59

Does what the police did or did not do, in any way impinge on what DC has admitted to doing?

(Incidentally, if I were DC, given that I'm dependent on the police for security detail having been oh so fearful for my safety and wellbeing - oh wait, strike that, it was my wife and child's safety and wellbeing, yup, that's right - I'm not sure I'd be wanting to be wanting to impugn them and try and make them the fall guys for my fuck ups. Especially if I was too cheap to pay for childcare or nursing, given how good a whack my wife and I were on, let alone security).

merrymouse · 27/05/2020 19:59

Specifically they have helped to whip up the frenzy.

No DC 'whipped up the frenzy' when he called a press conference and refused to apologise and claimed that he had driven to Barnard Castle to test his eyesight.

He could have apologised days ago.

He was asked about visiting Durham weeks ago. If there was no story and he felt his actions were justified, all he had to do was agree that the had been to Durham.

Clavinova · 27/05/2020 20:00

I guess the question is then - why did the friend ring the police on the families behalf?

Perhaps the friend is a police officer.

itsgettingweird · 27/05/2020 20:01

Specifically they've helped whip up the frenzy

I didn't see them in the rose garden on Monday when D.C. read his statement of what happened and why that were all basing our opinions on.

Perhaps I should go for a drive just to check my eyesight functions properly.

itsgettingweird · 27/05/2020 20:02

He rang a police officer to get them to ring the police?

That's an interesting way of gaining a middle man Grin

Clavinova · 27/05/2020 20:03

No DC 'whipped up the frenzy' when he called a press conference and refused to apologise and claimed that he had driven to Barnard Castle to test his eyesight.

He only called the press conference because of the frenzy.

He could have apologised days ago.

I agree but would the outcome be any different unless he had resigned as well?

TangibleTuTu · 27/05/2020 20:03

Also, what about the fact that he went back and changed a blog post from last year and lied claiming that he had forewarned the government a year ago? He clearly is willing to lie in make himself look good. He also underestimates other people's basic intelligence and treats us like fools.

Clavinova · 27/05/2020 20:05

He rang a police officer to get them to ring the police?

Yes, if he rang his friend at home. Perhaps they are both Freemasons' ? Grin

Mary1935 · 27/05/2020 20:06

These people are sociopaths are even psychopaths. DC gears towards psychopath. Imagine being married that him!! He is not a nice person.
Arrogant sod.

tobee · 27/05/2020 20:07

"He only called the press conference because of the frenzy."

To help disseminate the belief that the press is full of fake news and run by a London elite.

Clavinova · 27/05/2020 20:08

Also, what about the fact that he went back and changed a blog post from last year and lied claiming that he had forewarned the government a year ago?

To be fair, he did link to the article in the previous blog and he did make similar references in the original.

The80sweregreat · 27/05/2020 20:10

I would lay money on Dominic Cummings 's dad being a Freemason!
It just feels the sort of thing they would belong to and having a lot of money and land etc it would make sense too.
Lots of the police are also Freemasons.
All these types tend to stick together. Read wiki on any of them and most are related to royalty and what not!

SmileyFaceSadFace · 27/05/2020 20:11

I guess the question is then - why did the friend ring the police on the families behalf?

I would like to know who this friend was. Was the friend at Robert Cummings house at the time or did RC call a friend and ask them to call the police.....none of it makes any sense.

Could the "friend" be calling from Downing Street?

Clavinova · 27/05/2020 20:12

DC gears towards psychopath...He is not a nice person.

I didn't get that impression at all - he seemed very normal - much better than I expected.

Clavinova · 27/05/2020 20:13

Could the "friend" be calling from Downing Street?

Yes - I hadn't thought of that!

itsgettingweird · 27/05/2020 20:14

But clav it was what he said at the press conference that has got people so incensed. We all listened to hear why he really needed to break lockdown rules twice. He had an opportunity at that time to prove us wrong.

Instead he said he didn't explore childcare options in London, he went home because his partner was ill, considered covid but returned to work. Then went home and decided to leave London due to threats. This was after leaving his family home alone to return to work not knowing if his wife did or didn't have covid.
Then admitted driving to Barney Castle to test his eye sight. The guy is meant to be a genius. And that's what he comes up with?

merrymouse · 27/05/2020 20:14

I agree but would the outcome be any different unless he had resigned as well?

Yes, it would be very, very different.

People would have still have complained, but if he had been prepared to admit that he had made a mistake the government would not be gaslighting millions of people and trying to retrospectively rewrite the law.

HeIenaDove · 27/05/2020 20:14

@bobtrain No and since i heard this from Robert Jenrick about the locking down of housing estates im raging even more than i was before.

www.lbc.co.uk/radio/presenters/nick-ferrari/robert-jenrick-local-lockdown-coronavirus/

Will they call them red zones like they did in Years and Years.

The headline on the front of the DM today was done deliberately to put people in mind of council estates.

They can go fuck themselves. Im not downloading any app either.

Get fucked Cummings.

itsgettingweird · 27/05/2020 20:18

I'm chuckling at the idea of Cummings senior sat at home. Searching for the number of Bob. Ringing Bob. Asking Bob to contact the station and asking them to give him a call. Bob rings the station and speaks to Keith. Asks Keith to ask Roger to give Cummings senior a call. Keith contacts Roger. Riger rings Cummings senior.

Thank the lord that this police matter was an exceptional circumstance where there was a real chance of risk to life Grin

Experimenopause · 27/05/2020 20:19

To be fair, he did link to the article in the previous blog and he did make similar references in the original.
In my line of work, this kind of amendment to your published work is grounds for dismissal.
Before writing this here, I read his statement about how he had mentioned SARS, I read the original blog post, and then I read the changes he made recently.

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