To be pissed off at the Muslim community?

[Redolent]

The vast majority of my Muslim neighbours and family members have had visitors over for Eid. Not just one household, but a steady stream of them. My mum, who’s vulnerable and has pretty much kept to herself over the last couple of months, has mixed with four different households since Sunday. Her response is ‘Well they turned up/travelled to say Eid Mubarak. They’re right on our doorstep. I couldn’t possibly turn them away without serving them food’.

Media accounts of how Muslim communities life in extended family networks miss the point that these ties are not simply dependent on proximity but are based on entrenched feelings of social obligation.

Bearing in mind that the BAME community is more at risk anyway, I’m pissed off at the Muslims I know, fearful of a second spike, and hoping that the cites they live in get locked the fuck down again before they all get sick.

@Faffandahalf

Ha. I last visited that place like 5-6 years ago. Looks like it has some virtual street cred (or not).

Everyone around our way has been having visitors etc for weeks now. And none of them are Muslim as far as we know.

You need to direct your anger at your family and friends and not the whole community. I also think maybe your mum invited them but was unable to admit that to you as on Eid lunch is not a slapdah meal put together whilst people mill around, it's a traditional cooked meal and if your mum provided lunch then she was definitely prepared for the people who turned up.
We did see all our family on Eid who all live local to us but from a distance of between 3&6 metres as we stood at the gate and they stood at the front door. Many of our neighbours did similar as we could hear conversations and greeting being exchanged as visiting friends and family did similar.

Report them if you think you should and have a word with your mum. I am muslim and have just had eid. I did not travel home to see my family ( my mum probably wouldn't have let me in) and I didn't go to see my mil who lives two small towns away. I celebrated with my own little family and made do with phone calls and zoom/watsapp chats to connect with wider family. Don't tar us all with the same brush!

If your mum let people in to her home that was down to her poor decision making not anyone else's. In England you can meet up with people outdoors but have to keep the 2m distance therefore they could have stopped over to see your parents but stayed by their car or in it.

Eid is a special time for us and a large part of it is connecting and sharing with family. We were not able to do that this year and many people have avoided by the rules and have not prayed together. How many posts were on mumsnet over Easter with people travelling unnecessarily to drop off easter eggs at a time where unnecessary travel was not allowed?

There have been plenty of people breaking the rules and they come from all faiths and backgrounds. I know we are not supposed to troll hunt but seriously!

There's no such thing as "the Muslim community". Its a fiction of the identitarian left now given milage by the identitarian right.

What floatyboat said.

There is no such thing as 'the Muslim community'.

There's no such thing as "the Muslim community". Its a fiction of the identitarian left now given milage by the identitarian right.

I’ve always said this too. Although I’m not sure what identitarian means?

Obsessed with identity politics? I think it's a word - I may have just made it up?!

Maybe I am in the minority but I have a family who have stuck to the rules ...I am a RN working in a care home and we cannot take any risks but unfortunately DC has now made my children think....we are now going to follow DC rules !! So if the muslin community ignore or anyone else I am not going to criticise !

@DoesMaryNotDrive

Urban dictionary says it's a word.

www.google.com/amp/s/www.urbandictionary.com/define.php%3fterm=identitarian&amp=true

Expect a spike in your areas, thank fuck it’s south 🤷‍♀️🤷‍♀️

secret congregational prayers

Really?

I have not heard of any such thing.

Go on, OP, what other terrible things were we meant to be getting up to?

Our Muslim friends across the world are keeping their distance over Eid. However, I posted about this a few weeks ago: there is a local Christian group close to us who decided to hold an illegal church service and most of them got COVID.

@Redolent

I’m genuinely pleased that you don’t know of any secret taraweeh prayers. It’s a positive sign in your community. But they absolutely have taken place and I’ve fallen out with family who have attended them

For a start, Taraweh prayers are total bidah/haraam and not necessary at all.

Second, you will know that the "Muslim community" is not, judging by your racist demeanour, isolated to people from Indian/Pakistani heritage - Muslims can be of ANY ethnic background. Are you carte-blanche accusing all of these Muslims of breaking rules?

I'm more surprised you didnt manage to turn this into a Sunni/Shia bashing thread. Although I suspect that thats next

Many people, of many creeds/race/gender have been breaking lockdown. I dont see your anger at the VE day nonsense? I wonder why.

Absolutely none of your business.

Like DC was none of anyone else's business? Double standards all round!

I'm certain that if the lockdown had happened in December, there'd be people visiting their families for Christmas left, right, and centre.

And there would be no problem in criticising that, would there?

secret congregational prayers

Really?

I have not heard of any such thing.

There are hairdressers still working secretly, not much of a leap to think some isolated prayer gatherings are secretly going on in places.

The people I know certainly pared down celebrations from normal. None of my neighbours had large family gatherings (you can't miss the car chaos) but I did see visitors being welcomed in front gardens with light refreshments. My left hand neighbour brought food and sweets round as normal (we take them mince pies at Christmas) but didn't come in

Hi all. We've removed some posts on this thread for trollhunting - please could people report any concerns and not trollhunt on the thread - as you know, this is against our guidelines.

We don't have concerns about the OP - she's been here a few years and we think it's fine to host this discussion if it stays civil.

We live near a huge mosque. None of our Muslim neighbours have had any visitors at all. The ones breaking lockdown are Bulgarian. They have caused nothing but problems for the entire neighborhood during lockdown, however I don’t assume that because they have behaved in this way that the entire Bulgarian community have also broken lockdown.

Those saying what about Christmas? Easter was in the middle of lockdown which for many is just as, if not more important than Christmas and people mostly managed to stay away from family.

I'm relieved that the op wasn't foolish enough to name the mosque or imam when asked. You have no idea who's reading this thread.

I’m pissed off at my neighbours immediately to the back of me ( who happen to be Muslim) exactly for the reasons you describe.
Constant stream of visitors since lockdown, Women and young kids in the daytime, they’ve put a massive trampoline 3 feet away from the 4 foot high boundary fence at the back, at night it’s groups of adults sitting around barbecuing till 1am so we can’t have our bedroom window open at night, DH is up at 6 for work 😡
They keep asking their NdN ( who’ve been there since 1970 🙄) to sell them their house so they can knock them together 😱

We’ve just spent a fortune building a huge privacy screen at the bottom of our garden in anticipation of their kids getting older.

It’s British people of all backgrounds reacting to how the government have set up the situation. My family living in a Muslim majority country have not visited family for Eid because there is a Covid curfew in place for 7pm-7am. And their country has seen the r rate drop and are nearly ready to return to semi normal. Meanwhile we live in chaos where everyone is pointing their fingers at each other and getting angry instead of being sensible. And our unelected political advisors do what they want because they are elite and we are statistics. It’s so embarrassing.