To be pissed off at the Muslim community?

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The vast majority of my Muslim neighbours and family members have had visitors over for Eid. Not just one household, but a steady stream of them. My mum, who’s vulnerable and has pretty much kept to herself over the last couple of months, has mixed with four different households since Sunday. Her response is ‘Well they turned up/travelled to say Eid Mubarak. They’re right on our doorstep. I couldn’t possibly turn them away without serving them food’.

Media accounts of how Muslim communities life in extended family networks miss the point that these ties are not simply dependent on proximity but are based on entrenched feelings of social obligation.

Bearing in mind that the BAME community is more at risk anyway, I’m pissed off at the Muslims I know, fearful of a second spike, and hoping that the cites they live in get locked the fuck down again before they all get sick.

Did these people actually go inside your mums house?

Where I live the Jewish, Hindu, Sikh, Muslim and Christian communities which are normally at each other’s throats used each other’s holidays as an excuse to flout lockdown. Even the athiests were celebrating. So you can pin this on any religious community really.

As if you wouldn't have people over if it was Christmas now...

No I don’t read the Daily Fail, how absurd.

I’m angry at them the Muslim community because it’s the one I’m most invested in. Of course I recognise there are people of all creeds and races that have been breaking lockdown. But I’m angry because the people I know have been sharing sermons during Ramadan, talking about how our religion places emphasis on not harming oneself and others etc etc. And then it all goes to pot on the day of Eid. Like another poster mentioned, it’s not looked upon favourably if you don’t go along with these gatherings.

YABU for being angry at ‘the Muslim community’ because of the actions of a handful of Muslims you know.

Also, if you think that the vast majority of brits wouldn’t have done exactly the same if this nightmare had occurred over Christmas, you’re fooling yourself.

@MorrisZapp

Yes they went inside and had lunch.

Not all Muslims broke lockdown. Plenty of them on facebook talked about it being a small celebration this year with only their own household, because of lockdown - including our mayor.

The OP is Muslim, right?

They haven't said that. They mentioned friends and family members. And if they are, so what? If they are Muslim and haven't done it, then saying it's all Muslims would be pretty damned dumb, wouldn't it? I don't judge all white people / Hindu's or any other group by the actions of a few. Why should they?

If the OP is Muslim herself, how is she being racist?

Sorry can you clarify is your mum Muslim? I've read it as you and your mum are. If so then I guess you are better placed than I am to form an opinion.
However my Muslim neighbours have been at home alone as has my friend.
I've been home alone all lockdown, whereas my neighbours over the back of my garden have been anything but social distancing.

Yes I’m Muslim.

The OP is Muslim!!

My family is Muslim. We haven’t seen our parents in over 8wks. They haven’t seen our kids either, and I know it’s killing them.

We celebrated Eid just with those in our household. I know many Muslim families that did similar.

Please don’t assume everyone is the same, just because you’ve seen the actions of a few.

If the OP is Muslim herself, how is she being racist?

You are making assumptions not in evidence. She has had the opportunity to clarify that she is a Muslim and therefore has broken the lockdown like all other Muslims - her words, not mine.

Not all Muslims.

Friend told her brother and sister shone wanted to visit to stay home.

Other friend had a Zoom Eid so did we.

You know what, everyone is really fed up and upset and lonely and scared. My MIL had made plans for a landmark birthday but had to cancel, she’s desperately missing seeing her grandchildren.

Frankly given the way the politicians are behaving I'm not surprised people aren’t adhering to social distancing.

It’s not about religions thinking they’re above catching corona virus, mosques are still closed no where in the UK had congregational Eid prayers for the first time I can remember. All the scholars and imams were posting instructions on how to perform Eid prayers at home on social media.

People are really suffering from the lockdown. If they want to make their own decisions than so be it.

You cannot be angry at the whole muslim community, we are muslims and stayed at home,
However, you are right to be angry with your friends and family who got together, but please don't make a generalisation!

I might use this thread for English Comprehension with my kids. Questions like 'What religion do you think the writer was brought up in? Why?' or 'Why do you think this writer has a particular concern about how Muslim families are portrayed in the media?'
If they were older we could go for 'what terms could be used to describe the readers who assume that the writer celebrates Christmas?'
Your concerns make total sense OP. But like everything Covid-19 related, you can only make decisions for your own household. Your mum has to make her own choices. It is frustrating though.

All communities are breaking the rules neighbour's having garden parties.
I'm guilty of giving up too. I haven't visited anyone's homes but I'm out walking etc more.
The Romanian community around here never went into lockdown at all.

It’s not like breaking lockdown rules is solely down to people belonging to one religion. Many people have broken the rules and as someone said upthread if it was December when this happened there’d be plenty of people having family over for Christmas. It doesn’t make it ok but it’s ridiculous to word your OP in a way that suggests only Muslims have behaved this way.

I think lots of people from every background have stopped following the lockdown rules. I’ve been following the guidelines religiously and have been stuck at home on my own with my three children for over 10 weeks. I was really ill to start with but managed to some how cope with them all. This last week though even I’ve started to feel like saying fuck it I’m 38 and my mums 55 we are both healthy if we can go to shops and work why can’t I take the kids to sit in her garden. I know it’s wrong but I’m losing the will to care anymore.

@Unshriven

I'm certain that if the lockdown had happened in December, there'd be people visiting their families for Christmas left, right, and centre.

People will decide for themselves what matters most now. The 'guidance' is unenforceable and illogical.

A million percent this.

I DGAF if the OP is Muslim. This is an inflammatory post.

I am pissed off at all the white English folk who were celebrating VE day, arm in arm, not socially distancing. I'm pissed off at the white English folk who are sunbathing with zero social distancing on our beaches. I am pissed off at the white English folk who are Covid19 positive and spitting on people of colour to spread the virus to them.
I am pissed off with everyone.
This thread needs removing.

Not the whole community, no.

The muslim families on our road Facebook group were sending greetings to everyone and saying how hard it was celebrating during lockdown and not able to invite everyone round or visit.

Some left socially distanced plates of food and sweets on tables on the drive and sent messages encouraging people to come and help themselves to some.

It’s one thing for people to decide who to meet up with but it’s another to turn up at the doorstep of an elderly woman with flowers and gifts on Eid. Knowing that of course you’ll be invited in.