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To hope this racist woman loses her job

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TildaKauskumholm · 26/05/2020 10:43

twitter.com/melodyMcooper/status/1264965252866641920?s=19. Was appalled to see this video on Twitter - a guy in Central park, NYC, who was birdwatching, politely asked a woman to put her dog on the lead as per the regulation in that part of the park. He started filming it as she got abusive and called the cops, to say that she (white) and her dog were being threatened by an African-American man and could they send the police (as we know this can often result in a shooting).All the while she was holding her dog up by dangling it from its collar, half strangling it. The man left and his sister put the video on Twitter, resulting in the racist dog strangler being identified very quickly... she has a high powered job with an insurance company. The animal shelter took back the dog, and her company says she is on 'administrative leave' hopefully meaning she will get fired. I was really shocked and dismayed that such open racism is still going on, even though she was being filmed! Surely she must lose her job at least, what company would want to be linked to something like this?

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Glowcat · 26/05/2020 20:42

I wasn’t inferring any racist meaning I was stating that you’re using emotive language to paint events in a particular light. Skulking might also be called ‘nosing around’, ‘looking at’, ‘wandering about’. Skulking implies nefarious intent, as we’re being legal and all. ‘Made off’ could be replaced by ‘left’ as in ‘he nosed about for a few minutes and then left.’ See how different that feels? ‘Intercepted’ could be replaced by ‘confronted’ as in her was confronted by two armed men.’ Isn’t language wonderful.

From your own link

’The video shows a figure - believed to be Arbery - walking around a construction site minutes before he was shot dead by two men in a pickup truck, believed to be the McMichaels.‘

’In it, a man wearing a white t-shirt walks into the garage of a house under construction before strolling around the back of it.‘

‘Former Fulton prosecutor Manny Arora told AJC entering a construction site is at most a misdemeanor, unless something was taken from it.‘

‘Strolling’, that’s another word that would fit.

MaxNormal · 26/05/2020 20:42

I have my doubts also about this 'bird watcher' but will see what is later reported about it.

Racist.

Ratasha · 26/05/2020 20:44

@MorrisZapp

Please take your racism elsewhere.

SimonJT · 26/05/2020 20:44

Umm that's not exactly true, that's what's been spun. Additional cctv evidence was released which showed Arbery sculling g round private building yard presumably with intent to steal. He made off on foot and was intercepted by two men. He physically fought with one and ended up shot in the struggle.

I’m a brown man, on my walk to work (well, before lockdown) I have to pass a building site, I often walk through it as it’s open and no dangerous. So if two men with guns approach me for daring to be brown and on my two feet I have to just stand there and wait to be shot while two very aggressive men scream at me and wave loaded guns in my face? I assume if two men chased you, caught you and waved guns in your face you would also stand there in silence.

areyoubeingserviced · 26/05/2020 20:45

Agree that there are a lot of racists on this thread.
The irony, is that racist always claim not to be racists
Sad times

DotForShort · 26/05/2020 20:47

Oh, yes. Keep your eye on those scary birdwatchers. It’s well known that birdwatching is a cover for all sorts of criminal activity. 🙄

As for Ahmaud Arbery, the security camera at the house under construction shows that a number of people entered the site and looked around. And yet, the only person who was chased and murdered for this alleged action was a young black man. Coincidence? Er, no.

Buccanarab · 26/05/2020 20:48

mobile.twitter.com/nowthisnews/status/1265342740184915974

For anyone wondering why Mr Cooper felt the need to film his encounter watch the above, heartbreaking, video.

MorrisZapp · 26/05/2020 20:48

If objecting to my name becoming shorthand for 'white bitch' is racist then please inform MN and have me banned?

AKissAndASmile · 26/05/2020 20:49

Same here!!! I'm actually having a toast to it now. It's the best news I've heard since lockdown began!
🥂🥂🥂😁

Schoenes · 26/05/2020 20:49

I am really so very happy this aggressive hysterical racist broad was fired. I do not care two figs about this Karen thingy. Why not? I am a white woman- I always just feel rather revulsed and so angry about these Karens. Nowt to do with me.

VladmirsPoutine · 26/05/2020 20:49

Even if we stop using the term Karen. The notion of white women white-womening will forever exist. I sometimes don't use the Karen word and just call it what it is - a white woman doing white-womaning. It's so bizarre that so many white women take issue with being called Karen (to describe a particular set of privileged behaviours) yet black people have been called n*iggers, (porch) monkeys, coons, coloureds, savages, blackies etc for decades and decades. Black people have been called really degrading terms and now some white women are moaning about being called a simple name like Karen. Typical Karen behaviour. I only wish the most potent slur used about me was 'Karen'. That in itself is privilege.

Glowcat · 26/05/2020 20:49

I do find it annoying when they take up all the room in hides with their tripods and scopes but I’ve yet to call the police on them.

NotAgainNo · 26/05/2020 20:50

Umm that's not exactly true, that's what's been spun. Additional cctv evidence was released which showed

Aha! So we like film evidence really but only when it shows what we want it to show?

He made off on foot
He physically fought with one

and ended up shot in the struggle.

Gosh! Some media-trained personnel on here who can easily absolve white people of their actions. I see the black man has active statements against him while the gun just "ended up shooting him". The white man was passive here - he didn't shoot the gun? The black man just "ended up being shot"...by a bird?

The black person did...
But whatever the white person did or didn't do just happened to have been done..... by....(no, let's leave it at that. They didn't do it, it was just done).

I'm ashamed!

AKissAndASmile · 26/05/2020 20:50

That last emoji was meant to be 😁

VladmirsPoutine · 26/05/2020 20:51

@Buccanarab You should have added a trigger warning to alert people they are about to witness a murder.

AKissAndASmile · 26/05/2020 20:51

Oh, my grinning emoji keeps changing into a grimace 🤔Hmm

isitfridayyet1 · 26/05/2020 20:51

To the absolute idiot who asked why he was filming her. Is it always your intent to believe a white person over a black person whatever the cost? He was filming precisely because if he hadn't who knows what other lies she could have told to get him incarcerated. Wake up!!

LemonadeAndDaisyChains · 26/05/2020 20:52

I have my doubts also about this 'bird watcher' but will see what is later reported about it

WTAF.
It's also really kind of weird for white women to get so offended at the descriptor Karen in this context.
There's a time and a place to take the huff with it and a thread about racist behaviour by white women knowing they hold all the power here is not the place.
I say this as a one myself (white woman that is)

Ratasha · 26/05/2020 20:54

If objecting to my name becoming shorthand for 'white bitch' is racist then please inform MN and have me banned?
It is shorthand for a certain type of racist, white woman who weaponizes her white privilege. It is calling out a type of racism.

Which makes it very Karen to tell black people that they're not allowed to use the word.

LemonadeAndDaisyChains · 26/05/2020 20:54

Just seen vladimires post after posting mine

chajazam · 26/05/2020 20:56

mobile.twitter.com/JoshuaPotash/status/1265338098256424973

The suspicious “ bird watcher”

MorrisZapp · 26/05/2020 20:58

Those words to describe back people you listed are utterly vile. I've never called anybody any of those words in my life and if I heard someone else doing it I'd inform the police.

The Karen slur is sexist. How weird to have a sexist slur that we can't complain about because complaining is what they hate us for. Win win for sexist twats.

AKissAndASmile · 26/05/2020 20:58

@Buccanarab that video is harrowing

America is a despicable country. The 'police officers' will get off scot free. We all know this.
Why do white people condone this? Because they benefit from it, as shown by this Amy Cooper character phoning the police to report an African American daring to ask her to put her fucking dog on a lead.

Thesispieces · 26/05/2020 20:59

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travellerist · 26/05/2020 20:59

Are the people offended by the 'Karen' term also offended by words like 'mansplaining'? Because I don't see how they're any different.

Glad this vile woman has lost her job and dog.

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