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To hope this racist woman loses her job

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TildaKauskumholm · 26/05/2020 10:43

twitter.com/melodyMcooper/status/1264965252866641920?s=19. Was appalled to see this video on Twitter - a guy in Central park, NYC, who was birdwatching, politely asked a woman to put her dog on the lead as per the regulation in that part of the park. He started filming it as she got abusive and called the cops, to say that she (white) and her dog were being threatened by an African-American man and could they send the police (as we know this can often result in a shooting).All the while she was holding her dog up by dangling it from its collar, half strangling it. The man left and his sister put the video on Twitter, resulting in the racist dog strangler being identified very quickly... she has a high powered job with an insurance company. The animal shelter took back the dog, and her company says she is on 'administrative leave' hopefully meaning she will get fired. I was really shocked and dismayed that such open racism is still going on, even though she was being filmed! Surely she must lose her job at least, what company would want to be linked to something like this?

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Stripesgalore · 26/05/2020 20:29

I would rather people did continue using Karen as a slur.

I’d rather misogynists showed their arses on the internet. It helps people distinguish between when people really want to create social change and where they just want to create twitter mobs online.

Glowcat · 26/05/2020 20:29

Since when is ‘sculling’ a death sentence? Since when do ordinary people get to chase someone down with guns because they decide the person must have had the ‘intent’ to do something?

The use of language is so telling. ‘Skulking’, ‘intent’, ‘made off’, ‘intercepted.’

SkinRash · 26/05/2020 20:30

@Sharonascarona

www.thesun.co.uk/news/11586880/cops-additional-footage-ahmaud-arbery/

Glowcat · 26/05/2020 20:30

Her being fired is totally appropriate. Charges would also be appropriate. I don’t think having her harassed and become a ‘victim’ will bring anything positive.

Ratasha · 26/05/2020 20:31

The ongoing complaints, from what I can only assume to be white posters, about how black people (particularly black women) use the term 'Karen' to call out a certain type of racism, is beyond disappointing.

I can understand the upset at the way certain white men now use the term, but that's a different matter that is not pertinent to this thread.

White people policing the way that black people talk about their experience of racism, at the hands of white people, seems racist in itself to me.

AKissAndASmile · 26/05/2020 20:31

I remember when Barack got elected president. One of my (white) colleagues said "He won't last the term. He will be assasinated"
So no, I don't think an Ivy league degree gives a black man privilege Hmm

DotForShort · 26/05/2020 20:31

I’m very pleased that she was fired. Some good news, finally.

zscaler · 26/05/2020 20:32

It’s also worth mentioning that the story that Arbery was involved in a burglary came from his murderers and is completely unsubstantiated. No thefts had been reported in the neighborhood for seven weeks before he was murdered. They used the excuse that they believed him to be a burglary suspect as justification for lynching him, but there is no evidence of any kind to support this. On the contrary, jogging in that area was something Armand did regularly.

AKissAndASmile · 26/05/2020 20:32

White people policing the way that black people talk about their experience of racism, at the hands of white people, seems racist in itself to me.

Absolutely. I will definitely be using 'Karen' from now on.

SkinRash · 26/05/2020 20:33

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areyoubeingserviced · 26/05/2020 20:33

Anyone who defends this woman should take a hard look at themselves
I was actually shocked by her behaviour.
She is a nasty, racist piece of scum.
Thank the Lord for phone videos

dreamingbohemian · 26/05/2020 20:34

That is total bullshit Skin.

Even if Arbery had stolen something and he didn't, and it was a house under construction so there was nothing to be stolen, and they don't even know that man in the video is him that does not mean that two racist yahoos can later chase him down and shoot him in the street.

That is a lynching.

If he fought with one of them it was to save his life. They were waiting for him with guns drawn.

WeightGate · 26/05/2020 20:36

He filmed her because he was terrified as soon as he realised what was about to him. You can hear it in his voice.

DotForShort · 26/05/2020 20:37

Well, this thread certainly reveals some of the racists on MN. If they would do us all a favour and not namechange, that would be helpful, since the rest of us could give them a wide berth.

VladmirsPoutine · 26/05/2020 20:37

I have my doubts also about this 'bird watcher' but will see what is later reported about it.

Of course you do. That's the thing with racists who don't wear that badge with pride. It's always a 'suspicion/doubt/ whatever other nefarious idea' to justify white supremacy and racism.

Now that we've seen tangible results your ilk will have to go back to wearing your hoods in basements. She got fired and likely will never be hired to that level again. More power to the iPhone. Exposing Karens in 4k. LOVE IT.

SharonasCorona · 26/05/2020 20:37

@SkinRash

So the article you quoted says:

The video shows a figure - believed to be Arbery - walking around a construction site minutes before he was shot dead by two men in a pickup truck, believed to be the McMichaels.

In it, a man wearing a white t-shirt walks into the garage of a house under construction before strolling around the back of it.

And you’ve interpreted this as:

Arbery sculling g round private building yard presumably with intent to steal. He made off on foot and was intercepted by two men. He physically fought with one and ended up shot in the struggle.

What would he steal from a construction site on foot?

calpolatdawn · 26/05/2020 20:38

I think theres a difference between defending her actions(don't think anyone is) and taking enjoyment out of her loosing her job, loosing her dog. life being destroyed, i cant take enjoyment out of that im afraid. George Floyd was killed in Broad Daylight by 2 police officers, THAT is something that needs to be on the Internet..

AKissAndASmile · 26/05/2020 20:38

I have my doubts also about this 'bird watcher' but will see what is later reported about it.
😂😂😂

AKissAndASmile · 26/05/2020 20:39

I think theres a difference between defending her actions(don't think anyone is) and taking enjoyment out of her loosing her job, loosing her dog. life being destroyed, i cant take enjoyment out of that im afraid.
I can

WhatASadLittleLifeJane · 26/05/2020 20:39

She should be sacked. She was weaponising her white skin. A man named George Floyd was killed by the police today for writing a false cheque. POC are disproportionately killed by police in the US. I remember that poor woman who was shot and killed through her own window when her neighbour called for a welfare check because the door was open and she was concerned.

It's murder. Fucking murder.

WhatASadLittleLifeJane · 26/05/2020 20:40

@skinrash you're obviously an absolute racist.

Buccanarab · 26/05/2020 20:40

@SkinRash

*Umm that's not exactly true, that's what's been spun. Additional cctv evidence was released which showed Arbery sculling g round private building yard presumably with intent to steal. He made off on foot and was intercepted by two men. He physically fought with one and ended up shot in the struggle.

Quite different really to the story of innocence being peddled.*

Firstly I've seen the uncensored footage of that encounter, the murderers pick up truck is stopped in the middle of the road, way ahead of Arbery. One of them get out the truck and level their shotgun at Arbery, who changes direction to go around the opposite side from the gunman. The gunman shouts something at him,(according to them they were performing a "citizens arrest") there is then an audible gunshot BEFORE Arbery starts to struggle with his killer who fires at least 2 more times.

Secondly on what fucking planet do you live on where being on a building site with "intent to steal" is a justifiable reason for random civilians to chase and gun down someone?? Utterly ridiculous, and quite frankly sickening, you would even try to justify that.

MaxNormal · 26/05/2020 20:41

SkinRash apologism for racially motivated murder is really low.

MorrisZapp · 26/05/2020 20:41

Please get to fuck with the Karen crap. The ultimate insult because the whole point of a Karen is that she complains. So by not liking the base misogyny of `Karen' she proves their point and can only ever be a figure of hate or derision.

By all means call this person whatever she is. But you lose me the minute you use that sexist guff.

VladmirsPoutine · 26/05/2020 20:42

I can

Same here!!! I'm actually having a toast to it now. It's the best news I've heard since lockdown began!