To hope this racist woman loses her job

[TildaKauskumholm]

twitter.com/melodyMcooper/status/1264965252866641920?s=19. Was appalled to see this video on Twitter - a guy in Central park, NYC, who was birdwatching, politely asked a woman to put her dog on the lead as per the regulation in that part of the park. He started filming it as she got abusive and called the cops, to say that she (white) and her dog were being threatened by an African-American man and could they send the police (as we know this can often result in a shooting).All the while she was holding her dog up by dangling it from its collar, half strangling it. The man left and his sister put the video on Twitter, resulting in the racist dog strangler being identified very quickly... she has a high powered job with an insurance company. The animal shelter took back the dog, and her company says she is on 'administrative leave' hopefully meaning she will get fired. I was really shocked and dismayed that such open racism is still going on, even though she was being filmed! Surely she must lose her job at least, what company would want to be linked to something like this?

The point is that he's an American version of our own privileged elite who feel like they're in command of the world.

That would be the dog-owner letting her dog loose in an area where it's forbidden, surely?

Why do you keep saying "a woman", then " a group of men"? Why not "a woman/a man" or "a group of women /a group of men"? Is a woman=a group of men?

He more than likely would have been able to say the same thing to another man and you may have been able to say what you said to a man.

A group of any sex is different from one person.

The point is that he's an American version of our own privileged elite who feel like they're in command of the world

She was running insurance and strategy for a sodding great investment firm listed on NYSE. She has a string of fortune 500s behind her including Lehmans and Citi. She is the living embodiment of elite herself.

@Schoenes - fuck off with your "Karens"

I have never had anyone attempt to call my dog away from me and throw treats to entice it over. That is not a normal dog walking interaction.

Have you ever let your dog off the lead in an area where it is strictly prohibited (as evidenced by signs) and where your dog could be a danger to nesting birds, and then repeatedly refused to put your dog on the lead when asked to adhere to the rules?

Because if not, your experiences are not exactly relevant, are they?

I have never had anyone attempt to call my dog away from me and throw treats to entice it over.

A good thing that's not exactly what happened here either.

Have you ever not put your dog on a lead in an area where dogs are supposed to be on a lead? Have you ever refused to do so when someone asked you to in such an area? That's not normal or decent behaviour either.

Notagain, because it is about the relative vulnerability of the person.

A child on their own would be the most vulnerable, a group of white men together would be the least vulnerable.

Xposted! Good question!

@Chicchicchicchiclana Are you upset Karen? Would you prefer the millennial version Becky, or the boomer version of Susan?

How can anyone defend her. Even if you think she wasn’t racist (which she was) even if you think she felt threatened by him (which she wasn’t} she treated her dog atrociously. That proves the sort of person she was. Anyone who can treat a dog like that is a disgusting human being, therefore it follows that she’ll be racist as well.

Not again, that is what happened. He put a post up on Facebook saying he called the dog over and used treats to encourage it.

I believe she was acting irrational before he started filming and he had every right to start filming,look how she behaved.Thank goodness he did film her behaviour.
And she did not put the dog on the lead till after she had called the cops.
Her attitude was disgusting,saying she was being threatened by an African American man.

Serves her right. I wonder how many other people she's treated badly and got away with. She as good as threatened murder.

I think there’s huge value in social shaming when it comes to the behaviour of the woman. Seeing someone wielding the police as a threat towards a black man who was birdwatching in a busy park makes everyday racism hard to ignore. Though not impossible apparently as some posters on this thread have shown.

When it comes to this woman being identified in the media I don’t think there’s any positive value in it. Losing her job and facing charges are appropriate consequences. Being targeted by hundreds of thousands of people? Nothing positive can come from that.

Not again, that is what happened. He put a post up on Facebook saying he called the dog over and used treats to encourage it.

Why are you on here twisting yourself into knots to defend a racist who has just been fired by her company for being a racist? Genuine question.

‘Have you ever not put your dog on a lead in an area where dogs are supposed to be on a lead? Have you ever refused to do so when someone asked you to in such an area? That's not normal or decent behaviour either.’

Indeed, as I have said, people find anti social rule breakers threatening. I find it threatening when people break rules, like letting dogs off leads in a wildlife area.

I can see why both found the other threatening. I don’t think that justifies a racist call to the police, but I can still understand how they got into a dispute.

@zscaler

Look at Ahmaud Arbery - he was hunted down and shot by two white men just because he was jogging in their neighbourhood and they thought that was suspicious. Those men faced no charges until video footage was released, showing that they intercepted and murdered Ahmaud.

Umm that's not exactly true, that's what's been spun. Additional cctv evidence was released which showed Arbery sculling g round private building yard presumably with intent to steal. He made off on foot and was intercepted by two men. He physically fought with one and ended up shot in the struggle.

Quite different really to the story of innocence being peddled.

Nothing positive can come from that.

I agree with your wider points except this. It serves as a deterrent. Now that she's been shamed and exposed and lost her job and dog it shows other would be Karens to stay in their own lanes.

As much as I've already made my feelings clear on this woman I'm also not happy with the continued "Karen" references.

I'm no more a supporter of racism than I am of misogyny and I'd respectfully ask people to stop using that name as a slur.

@SkinRash source? None of that was in the US reports I watched.

Umm that's not exactly true, that's what's been spun. Additional cctv evidence was released which showed Arbery sculling g round private building yard presumably with intent to steal. He made off on foot and was intercepted by two men. He physically fought with one and ended up shot in the struggle.

Quite different really to the story of innocence being peddled.

Even if your version of events were true (and by the way - it isn’t remotely), was his murder justified?

If I see someone trying to open my garage door am I allowed to follow them in my car for three streets, pull over in front of them, intercept them, and then shoot them dead? Is that a reasonable way to behave in a society governed by the rule of law?

why was he filming her?

I have never ever seen somebody ask why a victim was filming a perpetrator. You guys don't even try to hide your racism anymore.

The idea that a Harvard degree offers any kind of protection from racism or violence is laughable.

Barack Obama is surely one of the most accomplished and respected men in American history, he still had racists showing up on the White House lawn with the most obscene signs and chants, invoking lynch mobs. The Secret Service had to deal with a record number of threats.

Henry Louis Gates Jr, a very well known and respected Harvard professor, was arrested in his own home by a white police officer who thought he was a burglar. Harvard didn't help him out there.

Plenty of famous and wealthy sports stars, musicians, celebrities, have written about being pulled over by police, even nearly shot by police, despite their 'privilege'.

And you @VladmirsPoutine! FFS if it weren't so offensive it would be funny on a thread where people are (quite rightly) outraged at prejudice.

Nothing positive can come from that.
Well you're wrong there because she has been fired and her name is mud. That's very positive from where I'm standing..