To think that the ones screaming for people to stick to lock down...

[Whattodowhattodooo]

Are some of the most ignorant people on the planet???!!!

I have just been torn a new bum hole on FB, for adding some perspective to a very angry post on FB. FB post went something like this:

"300+ more fucking dead today. When will these fucking idiots learn that they havd to stay in fucking doors? I had a go at atleast 10 people in Tescos today (she didn't explain why) The longer they are stupid the longer this will go on..... Etc... Etc"

Lots of people went on: "I agree hun" "OMG so totally with you etc"

I went on and screenshotted Prof Sikoras tweet about week on week reductions and to say there is light at the end of the tunnel, chin up etc.

Well.......!!!!! The abuse!!!!!!!!

I'm dancing on people's graves... How can you be excited? I bet you are one of the c*nts going out and seeing family? (I have ONCE at my Nan's funeral) I am disgusting human being. How can I be happy that only 300 odd have died....you get the picture.

Am I wrong to find perspective/relief/optimism that the numbers are going down, or should I be wallowing and consigned to months and months of doom for the foreseeable??

Well I mean, you're doing the same thing as them op.

IMO the ones doing the most screaming are the ones subtley not following the rules. Going for a drive then staying over at boyfriends house for three days when they haven’t seen them for 8 weeks whilst spouting Save The NHS and having two parents living with them who are at risk. Yes, that’s you J. And the ones getting angry about self isolation but now they have had it, inviting people round because well, they’re probably ok now, that’s you M.

Love it. I mean, this person was also in Tesco rather than at home. Hypocrites everywhere

People still have to eat and go shopping. Some people in Tesco take absolutely no notice of the arrows or social distancing and some do, so you can't say one person is doing the same as the other just because they're in the same place

The people who died today were likely infected a month or so ago. The number of new cases is falling, which is positive news.

We need to take care to avoid a massive spike in cases, but most people are using their common sense and following the rules, or making sensible judgments about minimal risk situations. We can’t live in lockdown forever and have to return to some sense of normal, and while baby steps are needed, we will all need to take some form of risk, however small, eventually.

@Khione I really hope you are right, and for what it’s worth I said at the time not enough people broke rules on VE Day to cause a spike, but it would be at least 3 weeks before you would know, given the lead time from infection to illness and then to death.

I’m surprised to see how rebellious everyone on this thread is. There are rules and laws for a reason and if you’re flouting then then you’ll only have yourself to blame when your relatives are getting hooked up to some tubes

@crustycrab
He's in a special school

@BubblyBarbara not everyone is saying they are flouting the rules 🤷‍♀️

But loads of people are completely ignoring social distancing, and the chance of a second wave is pretty high - so perhaps they aren't being entirely unreasonable. Bar all the drama but you seem to be up for that too OP?

Do you know what, I am one of those people. I am not vocal about it but I am not ignorant either.
I do not want to die. It may be irrational thoughts but I don't. I don't want to leave my kids, or god forbid pass it to them and them die.

I think I have converted a friend today, we all belong to an old mums group. Went out today and thought I would call on them, front door open in the sunshine the dog woofed, my friend appeared at the door, like a rabbit in the headlights. I said just felt like saying hello in person. After a minutes 2 metre chat she pointed to the garden chairs and said take a seat. She moved her chair away but sat down. We soon got chatting, her OH then arrived home he was very welcoming, made me a drink telling me he had washed his hands first. Their DC then appeared as white as a ghost, he is either in his temp job or in the house. After a few minutes the awkwardness had evaporated and they relaxed. When I left an hour later she said I was the first visitor they had received since lock down.

They have clicked and collected shopping since lockdown so not even been out shopping anywhere. I am glad I went I hope they felt it normalised things a bit and they venture out now.

YABU simply because you haven't yet figured out the difference between a debate and an argument.

When I left an hour later she said I was the first visitor they had received since lock down.

ahem... that's NORMAL.

You talk about ‘them’ in exactly the same time that you condemn them for using. Yabu

Oh ffs. Same tone.

Jesus, can you all just obey the mashed up rules. Stop making excuses, stop attacking each other, and STFU.

@FancyAnOlive

I posted a perfectly pleasant post in response to her initial post in order to try and help her see that there is possibly light at the tunnel. "No oh for godsake woman get a grip of yourself" my exact words were "Hey hun, have a look at this....whilst terrible the numbers ARE coming down, much love x" No drama.

I then get accused of dancing on people's graves.

At what point during THAT (ie what my initial thread was about) exchange was I loving the drama??

The ignorance comment was in relation to people just wanting to wallow in the doom and gloom of it all without wanting to actually look at the figures to see what in the grand scheme of things they actually mean/are showing us.

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Love it 

@justasking111 meant to put that on the "anti-dementors" thread.

"I think I have converted a friend today" this is exactly the sort of shite they are gleefully gloating about over there.

No. You were rude and inappropriate. You were the only visitor they'd had, because they've chosen to adhere to the guidelines. Chosen to. Nobody has forced them to do anything. Until today, you turned up unannounced, made her feel like she had to offer you a seat.

For what? So you could skip back to your internet cronies and boast

I'm still scratching my head wondering why we are allowed to drive to anywhere we want to and go to busy parks and beaches when we aren't allowed to sit on a friends garden.

I'm not doing any of it (especially the parks and beaches) but I'm back at work, my Husband back on Tuesday.

It is scary and I know there are people who can shield permanently (and good for you) but for most people life is going to have to go on. The government can't fund people forever.

@fairgame84 I'd just worked that out after some heavy googling to see if there'd been an announcement

"I'm still scratching my head wondering why we are allowed to drive to anywhere we want to and go to busy parks and beaches when we aren't allowed to sit on a friends garden."

Viral load. Temptation to go inside and use the facilities. Temptation to then stay inside. Temptation to then have drinks etc. The likelihood that it will be more than just a single person from each household.

That said, nobody is going to stop you doing anything. It might help with the head scratching though

crustycrab

Yes I get that. I suppose it's because I can trust myself not to be a dick. I see what you are saying.

I still don't agree with packed beaches and parks but that's just my opinion.

I don't like all the arguing but I suppose it's going to happen because it such a serious issue and frustrating for everyone. Health and money wise.

Don't we have enough divisions over Brexit?
Some people are grieving over lost loved ones, some people are terrified of losing loved ones - and some people are finding it mentally hard to cope with lockdown.

If people are following the rules, or perhaps protecting themselves further, then that's not idiocy. That's perfectly justifiable fear.
If you're not afraid then brilliant. You're not stressed out like others might be.

Those creaming loudly for people to stick to lockdown tend to be those very very essential keeeey workers who are still going to work every day.

Best ignored. They have no idea what it’s like not to leave home for 9 weeks.