To think that the ones screaming for people to stick to lock down...

[Whattodowhattodooo]

Are some of the most ignorant people on the planet???!!!

I have just been torn a new bum hole on FB, for adding some perspective to a very angry post on FB. FB post went something like this:

"300+ more fucking dead today. When will these fucking idiots learn that they havd to stay in fucking doors? I had a go at atleast 10 people in Tescos today (she didn't explain why) The longer they are stupid the longer this will go on..... Etc... Etc"

Lots of people went on: "I agree hun" "OMG so totally with you etc"

I went on and screenshotted Prof Sikoras tweet about week on week reductions and to say there is light at the end of the tunnel, chin up etc.

Well.......!!!!! The abuse!!!!!!!!

I'm dancing on people's graves... How can you be excited? I bet you are one of the c*nts going out and seeing family? (I have ONCE at my Nan's funeral) I am disgusting human being. How can I be happy that only 300 odd have died....you get the picture.

Am I wrong to find perspective/relief/optimism that the numbers are going down, or should I be wallowing and consigned to months and months of doom for the foreseeable??

All through this I have observed that some people practically cream their knickers at the most horrible bits of news.

An awful lot of them appear to be the ones writing the news but there are plenty about wherever you look.

They want more death, more misery, more financial suffering (well, so long as it's not them who ends up broke), more chances to judge and have a go at as many people as they can target.

Personally, I observe the rules and wait to see what happens but it's not exciting. I think the dementors are looking for excitement in this gigantic clusterfuck of a situation.

You have to either ignore them or tell them to shut the fuck up, then ignore them or they will drag you into the pit of dispair and feel good about it.

@thebear1

No she hasn't... I did mention in one of my replies that my nan is one of the 30,000+

Calmed down a bit after that.

Why are you,getting so over excited - you sound as bad as them! People can have different views though inciting polarisation isn’t helpful

I wasn't getting over excited with my post. Trust me, I've had the deepest darkest days over the past 3 weeks... But some people just seem totally against the idea that we may, just may be getting somewhere

I get what you’re saying. Happy to shout behind a keyboard or at someone, they think below their status. I was at the park today. There was a group of 6/7 older teens not socially distancing. A few metres away was a group of 6/7 adults doing the same. Guess which group I saw a woman go ballistic at and which she ignored.

I’m not saying meeting in groups and not socially distancing is ok btw. I’m talking about the entitlement.

Well, I think it's a massive generalisation to say that people saying lockdown should be respected are 'some of the most ignorant people on the planet' ... perhaps that's not what you meant but it's what you typed. There's always room for projecting 'screaming' and idiocy on the internet.
The fact is countries that have had strict lockdown and adhered to it have lower death rates. I'm guessing they thought your message was questioning the logic of lockdown. And since most experts expect there to be a surge when schools reopen and a possible second wave, it may seem a bit early for some to start being hopeful. It's difficult to inject nuance into a binary decision of whether you respect lockdown or not.

I've been to see my mum and taken my DS to see her and I really dont care what anyone else thinks about that

Ah yes the dementors! They are the ones who pretend they care about all the deaths and yet weirdly, when the death rate drops instead of being happy that finally less people are dying they get furious that lockdown might be eased. Then they start scaremongering that a second wave will kill us all and that even though the government says we can go outside we should stay in otherwise we are all “murderers”. What I do to defeat them is agree with them. Eg “yes totally agree- you should stay indoors until a vaccine is found whilst I go back to work to keep the economy going!” Then watch their faces drop as they realise they’re going to be missing out 🤭

Everyone just has to do what's best for them - we have differnt situations. Just do it with respect for the choices of others.

I bet one of them was my ex's mum who thinks that I'm marching DS (15) to his certain death by even contemplating sending him back to school next month.
She can't understand what is wrong me and why don't I care about the virus (I'm an nhs paeds nurse).

That's the point though ... people seem to struggle with the difference between 'there may be light at the end of the tunnel' and 'let's just ignore lockdown and social distancing.'
Of course if it only affected themselves, it would be fine but the problem with a pandemic is that actually you need people to think in terms of collective responsibility.
Like a PP, the people I know who are most vocal on FB about sticking to lockdown are either recovering from being hospitalised with Covid; work on the frontline in the NHS or have a relative who has died of Covid. I think they're all entitled to feel strongly about people adhering to lockdown.

I agree

Dreadful, filthy language. That alone would put me off straight away.

I do agree lockdown should continue but wouldn't berate anyone else for interpreting the guidelines their way, we don't know the circumstances of everyone we encounter. Not that I encounter anyone, I stay at home and have my goods delivered.

well, if you are the one who has been flouting all the rules for weeks, and are boasting you have been fine all along, YABU. It's getting boring. We know it, you are superior, the rules didn't apply to you, it's only the idiots who actually followed guidelines that allowed you not to be sent to a stricter lockdown.

If you think it's all over and we can go back to normal, well..it's good to be optimistic, but it might not be as easy as that.

I have a holiday booked from tomorrow night, obviously cancelled but I'd be the first one to rebook it and go if I could. I am not sure the pandemic is over just because the great British public is bored of it.

She "had a go at" people in Tescos... presumably where she also was.
Don't argue with idiots, OP. They drag you down and beat you with experience.

I got really pissed off in a supermarket, no one was using the two metre distancing, it probably made her cross too. You chose to post a contra opinion and added fuel to the fire, are you really surprised that you get negative feedback?

You can’t fix stupid, and some people are just stupid. Yanbu

Why don’t you just ignore her then? Scroll on, life is too short to Get wound up by people you don’t know x

Urgh, I stuck an “x” on the end, forgive me

Yanbu.
It's depressing enough that so many have lost all reason and perspective. It's far worse that they spread vitriol if their fears are questioned.
You are not alone though in feeling the way you do.

I expect. The people she had a go at in Tesco are the same ones I want to (but refrain). You know the ones, push in front of you, reach across you to get stuff, don’t follow the one way system because they are too important or free-thinking or something so end up also not obeying the 2m distancing (or even 2cm in some cases). Being in Tesco is bad enough without idiots like that increasing the risk for both staff and customers.
We are over the peak. Yes that’s good. No, it doesn’t mean the pandemic is over and we can do what we want.
Prof. Simora’s views have been comprehensively rubbished by most other scientists - particularly virologists and epidemiologists, for example here: www.sciencemediacentre.org/expert-comments-about-oncologist-prof-karol-sikoras-tweets-about-how-we-could-exit-the-lockdown/

The responses to your Facebook comment are awful and you are not unreasonable to describe those particular people in the way you did.

You are unreasonable to describe everyone who would like people to observe social distancing as ignorant.

Today where we live (Tynemouth/Whitley Bay) there have been so many tourists- I heard a woman telling another woman in the queue for the ice-cream shop they had driven from in Wigan which I think is in Lancashire. Wigan! The other woman said they had driven from near Carlisle. Public toilets are closed and they have been using the beach behind the cafe and loos as a toilet. They are socialising in groups of friends and drinking alcohol, queuing for chips and ice-cream and ignoring the 2m lines on the ground, leaving litter and human excrement on the beach. It's disgusting.

So I am one of those people today who would like people to stay near their home and observe social distancing if they are out and respect the environment. I don't consider myself ignorant.

Both as bad as each other tbh. You sound equally dramatic OP, you'd fit right in on the anti dementors thread. If you've not used it before it's where regulars post prolifically on the coronavirus boards then as soon as they get a rise the scream (ironically) DEMENTOR and run back to tell the others.

It's all very grown up

@fairgame84 how are you managing to send a 15 year old to school next month? Just out of interest, has there been something announced about secondary schools?

Yup - ignore them.

Shouldn't we be seeing a spike now because of all the alcohol fuelled non social distanced VE parties 2 weeks ago - Well no because .... errr because ... The social media screamers have now shut up about VE day because their doomladen predictions haven't come to pass. why? Not only are the number of deaths falling every week, this last week there were fewer deaths overall than the average number over the last 5 years.

As for Prof Sikora being an oncologist - I'd much rather trust an oncologist than a self appointed social media expert.