To start webcam modelling even though I have radical feminist views?

[h3av3n]

So in the past when I needed money I would do webcam modelling/camshows/whatever you want to call it. I could make decent money from it and also get items bought for me from my Amazon wishlist. During the time I would become really uncomfortable with it, disturbed and disgusted by the men etc, I would feel so sick and empty after a while.

I'm a radical feminist and don't believe things should be like this whatsoever but my hours were recently cut at work and I simply need the money, the times in the past were due to being desperate for money for rent, food, bills and necessities. It makes more money than any job I can do, at my job I get £8.71 per hour but an hour of cam modelling can make hundreds on a good day plus collecting fans which gives the opportunity of additional money and gifts.

It's going to make me feel like shit, also I feel like I'm letting women down by choosing to be part of this and to serve men who are disgusting people. But at the same time I need money for me and my kid. I just wonder if it's unethical from a feminist point of view to do this.

I wouldn't do it if I were you sweetheart, and I mean that kindly. You've already said that you'd feel grotty doing it. That feeling can really linger on through the years xx good luck either way

I used to be a webcam model and made a fortune from it. Never once got naked only was ever in lingerie but was very good at talking shit 😂 and talking about people’s fantasies and fetishes.

I miss it sometimes as I actually enjoyed talking to so many different people and being paid from it of course. But it used to make me feel empowered and I never felt shit after unless I made crap money.

If it makes you feel bad don’t do it! Like with anything I guess.

Define what you mean by fortune?

Feminism is about empowerment and choice. Not what someone else deems to be servitude of men.

You could see this as empowering because you have all this daft blokes paying you a tonne of money for something that feels akin to cleaning your oven to you.

However, this isnt actually about feminism. This is about how comfortable you are to do this. If you arent comfortable then dont do it.

How about selling stuff on ebay or facebook etc?

Is it going to make you feel shit. Do what you need to do if you can't manage financially. Wear an eye mask if needed for disguise. Afaik the company owns all rights to the material you show and it can be used again.

@MarylandMayhem Never judge from the outside looking in. I’m strong, independent, financially, emotionally and mentally secure very confident in my body and just a confident person in general. I never felt like I was ‘servicing men’ they were just servicing my bank account 🤣 whilst I pretended to be interested in the shit they had to say. It paid me through uni with no student debt and I now run my own successful business... fully clothed 😉 Don’t think we are all these abused, down trodden women with no other choice because that isn’t the case.

I class myself as a feminist.

@emz771 Ok maybe not a fortune. But I would make around 2k after fees per week working part time 🤷‍♀️ some make much much more than this.

There are care agencies crying out for staff and most are so desperate you can pick your own days. Or cleaning? I won't mention taking in ironing

You said you have a daughter. Can you imagine she asked the same thing when she is 16- what would you tell her?

Ultimately I believe that any sacrifice for your child where you are hurting no one else, is ok, if you’re ok with it. Do it if you choose to OP, you are the one in control here.

You always have a choice OP most people won’t understand that line of work but if it really makes you feel horrible after doing it I would say the money isn’t worth it. ❤️

I'd rather steal out of Lidl's than go on webcam naked.

Name changed for this but am a regular poster.

It's just not worth it at the moment. Loads of escorts have turned to camming because of the current situation so the market is saturated. You basically end up sat there for hours on end twiddling your thumbs and earning a pittance.

@ElectricTonight the punters would probably rather I stole from Lidl then show them my wares 🤣

Op I have a lot of experience in this ‘world’ and I’ll give you three bits of advice:

1. Never do anything that you don’t want to do when it comes to your body, but if you are happy to do it and it helps you then do it. Your body is your own, if it starts to feel like it isn’t a choice - quit.
2. Sadly some women I know have had to move area/kids schools/lost friends or family over similar - be prepared, look for foreign sites not frequently visited by Brits if you can.

3- You are not ‘letting the side down’ any woman who tries to tell another woman what she should or should not do with her body, is far from a feminist. So do not listen to anyone who tells you otherwise.

Choice is the key factor here.

You been listening to City High OP?

"What would you do if your son was at home
Crying all alone on the bedroom floor, 'cause he's hungry
And the only way to feed him is ta sleep with a man
For a little bit of money, and his daddy's gone
Somewhere smokin' rock now, in and out of lock down"

If only there was a way of getting people to offer you money over the internet without having to get yer flange out eh....

Feminism is about choice? I'm a bit tired of that line - choice does not happen in a vacuum. It happens within a set of structures which are by and large set up to favour patriarchy over women's rights. What's the choice here? starve or sex work. Fucking great choice, that.

I agree with Lweji.

Op - I'm really sorry you are in this situation. I get the impression that you don't want to do this. I'm not in the UK so not really aware of the possible support mechanisms. But please do try the routes other posters have suggested. Good luck.

If it keeps a roof over your child's head, I'll be the last to judge you. It's your call, OP. No one has the right to decide for you. x

Interesting that people here can get worked up about feminism 'infantalising' women but not pornography objectifying women, children and actual infants and don't pretend the same scummy men aren't paying to watch all those age groups being harmed. Wake up.

If you'd said it didn't make you feel so terrible, I'd say do it. Since it does, don't. There are worse things than being poor for a while. Best of luck op.

@cheeseontoast7 out of interest, did you pay tax on this fortune you were making?

You are not ‘letting the side down’ any woman who tries to tell another woman what she should or should not do with her body, is far from a feminist. So do not listen to anyone who tells you otherwise. Choice is the key factor here.

👏 Very, very well said.

By all means do it. But you are definitely cheapening yourself by accepting 'extras', such as gifts.

You aren't letting anyone down and I wouldn't judge someone who did this in your situation. But you seem aware of the issues around it, it's obvious from your posts that you'd hate this- the money would not be worth that.

I did some escort work in my at university, it would be roughly what people are talking about when they talk about a "classy escort". Despite the common spiel of "sad, lonely men who just want a bit of company, we can laugh at them while they pay through the nose", realistically very few men are going to pay hundreds for a bit of conversation and flirting but it took a lot of awful treatment and nearly being raped by a client for me to finally get my head round this. It's really coloured my view of men and also made me seriously wonder about the (usually ex) sex workers who tell women that it's all fine and dandy, they'll make thousands and be empowered. Even if this was the case for them, they must know it's not typical and yet they encourage hard up women into it.

Obviously, with cam work you have more control over what you do but the videos are there forever and you could be asked to do some really awful things.
Essentially what I'm trying to say is don't do it. It won't be worth it. You'd surely be eligible for UC in your situation?

Don’t ask people As opinions will vary and are frankly irrelevant
Only
Concern is that if the misery from doing it is that deep
And screw the radical principles , right now you have bigger worries