To start webcam modelling even though I have radical feminist views?

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So in the past when I needed money I would do webcam modelling/camshows/whatever you want to call it. I could make decent money from it and also get items bought for me from my Amazon wishlist. During the time I would become really uncomfortable with it, disturbed and disgusted by the men etc, I would feel so sick and empty after a while.

I'm a radical feminist and don't believe things should be like this whatsoever but my hours were recently cut at work and I simply need the money, the times in the past were due to being desperate for money for rent, food, bills and necessities. It makes more money than any job I can do, at my job I get £8.71 per hour but an hour of cam modelling can make hundreds on a good day plus collecting fans which gives the opportunity of additional money and gifts.

It's going to make me feel like shit, also I feel like I'm letting women down by choosing to be part of this and to serve men who are disgusting people. But at the same time I need money for me and my kid. I just wonder if it's unethical from a feminist point of view to do this.

Of course I need money.. sorry but how can someone buy food, rent, electric etc without money? Surely people here are aware that money is literally a necessity, how can it be a question whether I need it 'that much' plus I have a kid

The benefit system provides the basic amount for food and shelter which is what your daughter needs. You seem to be more interested in the expensive gifts.

By the way viewers literally beg and beg and pressure us to hurt ourselves and have very twisted ideas, a woman died from choking herself on webcam once as the viewers kept pressuring her to do it more and more.

And to the idea that someone's parent would "giggle" at CamWork... do people think that women are just tickling or touching themselves for money on camera

Firstly; You can't be a radfem & do cam work, just like you wouldn't be antifa & happily give the Sieg Heil.... or be vegan & wear fur...

If you want to do cam work then do it but I really get the feeling that you don't.
Nothing is worth feeling disgusted with yourself.
As an example I was offered an all expenses paid luxury trip to Thailand recently by a married man that is well out of my budget, and he's attractive, but i knew it would be a transaction and that I would feel awful guilt & self loathing so I didn't get involved with him.
I've had similar offers off other men but they all involve losing my self respect and I refuse to do that.

So I work hard in my just above min wage job & claim PIP for a couple of serious health problems too. I'm poorer but I've got my pride intact.

Several of my friends have more than one job as they have limited hours in one job like you.
Being a really good private cleaner can earn good money; bank shifts especially nights as a carer in a nursing home or hospital can too (although obviously when corona is over).
Childminding is a good one to look into.
These are the kind of things my friends do for money!

Not sure I would be laughing if my daughter was opening her legs on camera for paying men.

And there's little chance that girls are making hundreds per day just opening their legs...

How can you say I'm more interested in the gifts? I have repeated that I need food rent electric etc so you're just making wild assumptions. Clearly you have never been poor and have no idea what it's actually like

First, I don't think what the OP is proposing is particularly compatible with radical feminism. I think that's so obvious it barely needs saying. We all sometimes make compromises and do things we're not comfortable with. It's entirely the OP's call as to where the boundaries like.

However, some of the slut-shaming and misogynistic language and opinions on this thread are horrible. Don't listen to these guys, OP; they're not on your side. They don't share your values and I can't believe their views of your predicament are useful to you.

My mum would probably just giggle and move on if she found out I was doing it

She'd really giggle about her daughter facing such hard economic times that she shoves obects in her arse and vagina, vomits and licks it up, chokes herself etc in exchange for money? Let's be real here, cam work is not just getting showing your breasts or fingering yourself, the real money is made from performing degrading and harmful acts on yourself.

I wouldn’t do webcam as I think it’s too revealing and I wouldn’t be able to sleep at night worrying who might see my face
Stuff like OnlyFans I absolutely would because you have so much more control over what you post and you don’t have to show your face

You know in your heart that this is wrong, will be very damaging to you, and that you desperately don't want to do it. So please don't do it. Have you gotten in touch with as many charities as you can and seen if they can help you?

Ems771 yes I do, as I said I'm even feeling stronger now that some women have given good reasons for not doing camshows. Your comments are all misogynistic or otherwise plain offensive or wild assumptions.

@emz771 your name calling of woman whose circumstances you have noooo idea about is disgusting.

So get a second job doing something other than sex work? It's a broad spectrum, it's not just a case of sex work or nothing. Go do some courier work or something, stop pretending that you have no options.

@emz771
Well, if I was destitute and doing out of desperation, she'd stop me and bail me out. If I was underage, she'd call the police. As it is, I'm doing OK financially and an adult. It's just the sort of relationship we have.

I don't view sex or my vagina as some holy relic that must be protected at all costs, and imo if some bloke wants to pay hundreds of pounds just to see it, then tally ho! If I were to do it, I'd be completely okay with showing my body off, and I wouldn't feel exploited.

But then I'm probably not the best person to ask because I just have a really relaxed view on sex. It's up to each person to make their own decisions.

I think what you're really after is fast money. You've mentioned the amount (and perks) you can get for a hour doing this. And you've not said anything about benefits (or I missed it). Nothing wrong with wanting more but unfortunately lots of fast money opportunities are either mentally challenging (because you may find them demeaning, etc), illegal or something not easily attainable, which is why not everyone has/can make money that way.

YANBU. It doesn’t compromise your views at all; feminism is about women being able to make their own choices. What anyone else thinks is irrelevant.

Do it and enjoy it. Celebrate your body. Don’t let people put you down for it because they think they have the right to tell others how to live their life and will shame them if they don’t agree.

I have applied for some work, it isn't an instant thing... Also there are very few jobs at the moment. A lot of jobs pay monthly anyway but you seem to think the moment someone applies for a job they receive money.

I don't view sex or my vagina as some holy relic that must be protected at all costs, and imo if some bloke wants to pay hundreds of pounds just to see it, then tally ho! If I were to do it, I'd be completely okay with showing my body off, and I wouldn't feel exploited
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I’m in a position of near destitution financially OP and I would never consider this, especially knowing what you clearly know about the clientele that partake in the ‘camming’ you refer to - even if you think you are aware of the worst you could receive from one of those customers and that nothing could shock you, it won’t stop it from taking its toll on you mentally and emotionally (and physically even as our mental health is connected to our physical wellbeing).

There are routes and options that can take some time, UC, Tax Credits, Food Banks etc, which seem like something unnecessary compared to something you can start now and make a bit of money from but I urge you to consider those routes first. Approach your local Welfare Rights team, CAB, Womensaid, Council. Call your energy and water providers and explain the circumstances of your drop in earnings, explain you have a young DC - there are contingencies in place for situations like yours that will be put in place, especially with your child being classed as a ‘vulnerable’ member of your home (this is true for any child in a household and energy companies and water companies have provisions in place to aid those struggling).

There are so many options that are maybe a bit more work, but in the long term will not have you degrading yourself for the cash for all and sundry to see (which I’m gathering you will feel degraded should you choose this route, from your OP and updates).

But then I'm probably not the best person to ask because I just have a really relaxed view on sex. It's up to each person to make their own decisions.

A really relaxed view on sex and relaxed view towards what happens on those cameras should be two different things.

Women choking themselves, being sick, shoving multiple things inside themselves to the point of bleeding isn't "sex".

@MarylandMayhem

How many cam models do you actually know? It's of course the case that there are exploited or vulnerable women in the industry, but I can assure you that you can make decent money without licking up vomit or choking yourself. I know lots of these women.

Maybe I like putting things up there. I just really wouldn't care if someone else saw. Not everyone has the same attitude towards sex as everyone else.

I don't view sex or my vagina as some holy relic that must be protected at all costs, and imo if some bloke wants to pay hundreds of pounds just to see it, then tally ho!

Women choking themselves, being sick, shoving multiple things inside themselves to the point of bleeding isn't "sex"
That’s a very extreme scenario that’s not that common at all.
Yes it’s grim but it’s up to the women who do it. They might be getting paid but they don’t have to do anything they don’t want to do