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To think it's ridiculous that Scotland is still in full lockdown..

417 replies

YouHurtMeSoMuch · 18/05/2020 13:05

And no change before the 28th. What the hell is Nichola Sturgeon thinking?!

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WhatwouldLangdo · 18/05/2020 23:52

@WaxOnFeckOff

That behaviour shouldn't be acceptable either.
I'm just sick of the Scotland bashing on these threads.

thaegumathteth · 18/05/2020 23:56

@WhatwouldLangdo I saw a woman last night sat on a beach (on the news!) saying how annoying it was that people were at the beach. I mean WTAF?

WhatwouldLangdo · 19/05/2020 00:04

@thaegumathteth

Probably the same family I saw. I reckon it says something about the utter confusion Johnson has caused with his astonishing lack of ability to convey a simple, clear or consise message.
Stay Alert?! Heard it best when I saw someone say, "women are alert, we look over our shoulders every single day".
Baffling!

sweetkitty · 19/05/2020 00:12

Not usually a fan of NS but think she’s got it right. I also like that day after day she stands and gives the briefings herself unlike Boris who has been MIA for days.

WaxOnFeckOff · 19/05/2020 00:14

@WhatwouldLangdo I'm not bashing Scots, I am one but I know what you mean. I am however sick of folk thinking that they are special or different purely based on where they were born. There are arseholes everywhere of every nationality. None of this means that we shouldn't be challenging and calling officials to account. I'm not a tory but the constant Boris bashing is just fucking tedious and it's not all justified.

Scotland has such a lack of talent in politics and in the SNP that Sturgeon is doing every update as she believes that no-one else can be trusted. Where is Swinney to talk about education or any of the rest of them other that Jeane?

I don't trust her either but she is a consummate politician and comes across well when she isn't constantly spouting about independence. Imagine if she'd actually put that energy into running the country? They might have actually created something that people wanted to vote independence for. Their record on everything is piss poor and no-one, including the media (especially the BBC) calls them to account.

Anyway, on that note, I'm off to bed as working in less than 7 hours time...

sweetkitty · 19/05/2020 00:20

I agree with other about Scotland not being in full lockdown it definitely isn’t around here, opening garden centres - I don’t know of one that is shut. Only seeing one other person out with your household and keeping 2m away, most people have been doing this during lockdown anyway. All over FB “I went to see my Dad day in his garden 2m away” Hmm most members of my family have broken the “rules” driving to go for walks, meeting boyfriends etc. Gangs of teens roaming about as they do

StormsDontLastForever · 19/05/2020 00:24

I'm Scottish and I totally agree with the lockdown and glad we are still locked down at the moment. Not usually a fan of Nicola but I think she is doing right by the Scottish people. Too many people have died world wide from this horrible virus, another few weeks of lockdown could potentially save hundreds of lives at the moment. Although where I'm from you wouldn't think there was still a lockdown with the amount of people not socially distancing, we have came this far bit silly to ruin it now! I'm desperate to see my family and dd is desperate to see family and friends but it is what it is and I would rather we were safe

WhatwouldLangdo · 19/05/2020 00:33

@WaxOnFeckOff

There are arseholes everywhere of every nationality.

Must say, I completely agree here

Nihiloxica · 19/05/2020 00:54

I actually agree that some of the activities pose very little extra risk in and of themselves, but it's not really the point.

Of course it's the point.

Unless (as certainly seems to be the case with a lot of lockdown enthusiasts) you just want to force people to observe rules for the sake of rules, then the risk is everything.

I suppose at least you are willing to admit that this isn't about risk at all, but about subjecting the whole of society to a set of arbitrary rules and getting inordinately angry with them if they don't consent to your petty tyranny.

Believe me, it won't only be the curtain twitchers and snitchers that will be looking at their neighbours very differently after this is over.

BeingLonely · 19/05/2020 01:07

As a Scot I’m bloody glad we are still in lockdown. Yes it’s soul destroying but I’m not playing games with my kids lives

GrandTheftWalrus · 19/05/2020 01:26

I'm glad we are still in lockdown as well. Me and DP are still working though. In fact I'm getting more work than I was before lockdown.

I'm just wondering when they will shut the new hospital they opened as I dont see it being used at all with the rates dropping.

UnholyStramash · 19/05/2020 01:32

I’m in Scotland and shielding. I’m bloody thrilled that the rest of you are all locked down too. Grin But seriously I think the FM has taken this whole situation very seriously from the outset, I think she’s got the risks sorted in her head, she gives clear briefings and answers the questions carefully and clearly. Like many others, I think WM Government has lifted restrictions too soon. I’ve no idea if the FM has better advisors or if she’s just less arrogant (and taking the situation more seriously) and actually listens to their guidance and takes it in and then responds correctly but I’m not at all impressed by WM and their briefings. They are full of lies and often seem to be trying to save their own arses rather than the lives of people in their communities. It’s all such a mess. Sad

Another thing, as restrictions are lifted - and this will start too in Scotland soon - people like me who are high risk of big problems if we catch the virus will be more exposed if we go out. Places will get busier and some of these people will be infectious. When you’re all champing at your bits to get out and ‘back to normal’, life for at-risk people will remain very constrained. Yes, and we’re people too. With families and friends and jobs and worries and responsibilities.

JigsawsAreCool · 19/05/2020 01:34

You all do know that when lockdown is lifted there is still a global pandemic? It isn't that when NS lifts it then thay will all go away? She isn't making it stay for fun cos she fancies some more air time. Hmm

So all the mental health problems people have aren't going to magically vanish. Exercise and fresh air is unlimited for those not shielding. Do that while chatting to people you want to meet up with on the phone to trick your brain into thinking you're with them.

As someone who is shileding I think some people.need to get a fucking grip. It's not a full on lock down. You are not trapped in your house. You can go to shops, you can walk in parks, you can go for cycles.

People screaming it's all Nicolas fault all over facebook are unhinged. Should she just say "yeah, fuck it, our rates are still not low enough but you know what off you pop to some nice gatherings"

Have any of you who disagree with her lost a relative to this? Cos I have. It's not fun. This week we have a funeral streamed online.

GrandTheftWalrus · 19/05/2020 02:09

I have someone on my Facebook that's moaned and complained about lockdown since day 1. Shes wanting to work even right now when shes due a baby any day now.

I've only moaned about dd missing nursery as she only started in November and she loves it. But its not long till August and she can go back.

IPityThePontipines · 19/05/2020 03:14

There are some cringeworthy remarks by English posters on here.

However, cringeworthy is one thing, sectarian guff like:

Guarantee you the OP is staunch AF. is even worse.

It's the second Scottish-related thread I've seen sectarian slurs being used on. It is not ok.

Bobleywobley · 19/05/2020 04:34

'It is indeed ridiculous to try to save peoples lives. I have no idea what she's thinking, putting peoples lives first. Absolutely awful behaviour."

Yes, agree, im moving to Scotland.

thatmustbenigelwiththebrie · 19/05/2020 05:04

Scotland has very high rates of obesity and poor health so maybe that's why

Orangeblossom78 · 19/05/2020 06:00

Yes, I am from Scotland myself and there is a real problem in cities such as Glasgow; some areas have a very low life expectancy.

It even had a name the Glasgow affect

see en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glasgow_effect

and yes, the virus has been bad in Glasgow and areas around it, the worst hit area is also one of the poorest in Scotland...

I'm not bashing btw, my dad was from one of those areas, we know it very well

Orangeblossom78 · 19/05/2020 06:31

also www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-27309446

MarieG10 · 19/05/2020 06:46

Maybe she is thinking about why Scotland's education has stagnated so badly, although increasingly difficult to tell when she has withdrawn Scotland from 2 out of 3 measurement indexes. Why is the Scottish NHS performing so badly.

CV has been a great distraction for the SNP and avoiding the growing clamour in Scotland as to why these services are so poor compared to England

Orangeblossom78 · 19/05/2020 06:54

The first minister’s grandstanding on Covid-19 masks the SNP’s dismal record on health and education in government

www.thetimes.co.uk/article/nicola-sturgeon-is-pulling-the-wool-over-our-eyes-knv7069rq

Orangeblossom78 · 19/05/2020 06:54

Yes Marie..

LevoMental · 19/05/2020 07:09

I don't understand why Nicola Sturgeon/ Scotland alone is being criticised so harshly given that BoJo and England are actually the exception here.

Wales and NI have remained on strict lockdown but nobody is accusing them of being ridiculous.

rookiemere · 19/05/2020 07:12

NI have allowed people to meet outside and some outside sports to resume. That seems quite sensible to me. Being allowed to meet one person outside at a distance would be low risk, but of big benefit to people.

deydododatdodontdeydo · 19/05/2020 07:38

every other country that has opened up has had a second wave.

Not true at all. Where do people get this stuff from?
No other country has had a second wave (yet).
And England isn't "out of lockdown" either - there's still hardly any shops open, only food, DIY and garden centres (although the one up my road is doing a click and collect type service).