To think it's ridiculous that Scotland is still in full lockdown..

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And no change before the 28th. What the hell is Nichola Sturgeon thinking?!

@Mascotte

How about only two new cases?

Seriously?

I'm not being snarky. I'm interested in how people think.

I don't understand why if 3 of the 4 countries in the UK are doing the same thing why one of them is wrong. Small minded English arrogance singling out Scotland again. I actually think it's Boris who has it wrong and it's the hospitals that will suffer when the virus spreads again. Which will cost a whole lot more than furlough through lives and money. Come back in a months time and see where we all are. If get my house England won't be on top that's for sure

Id bet my house, damn predictive text

Scotland can do what they want, why should it be the same? For something like this I would prefer some sensible regional variation in England if appropriate.

I can’t stand Nicola Sturgeon but I think she’s made the right decision. I think we’ve semi come out of lockdown far too early.

I think it’s ridiculous that England isnt in full lockdown.

I don't understand why if 3 of the 4 countries in the UK are doing the same thing why one of them is wrong.

They're not.

Small-minded arrogance not to even bother finding out what the other nations are doing before posting that we are all in lockstep with Scotland.

Garden centres opened in NI today.

Outdoor meetings of up to 6 people, socially distanced, are allowed from tomorrow.

Golf opens on Wednesday.

I'm just back from a long walk in the capital city, everyone I saw did the social distancing dance to pass each other and there were not many cars about. I've seen only one neighbour have friends round, and all my own friends are observing lock down.

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I agree with your post. Except the unnecessary 'small minded English arrogance'. It's not very nice or necessary to generalise about millions of people.
And after all it's the English that will suffer the most by the premature easing of lockdown (before any measures to make it safer were taken).

@olivehater
Uhh truthpact you can’t pretend there isn’t some truth in that. Obviously scottish people pay tax but you have heard of the Barnett formula haven’t you. The English tax payer does generally lose out and we do get less money spent per head on us.

Scotland, for many years, had brought in more head than the majority of those in England and Wales. This included about £150 billion of Scottish oil money which went straight to London. The Barnett consequentials, in some part, reflect that.

You benefitted from Scottish oil, it made England and Wales richer too. Norway kept their oil money and gave themselves a great financial cushion.

Why not give Scotland back that money and we'll separate as friends?

I am English and th is thread and many others have been littered with the same anti Scottish shite. Many comments are small minded and arrogant. Both sides but mainly from England. No not all of England are the same so I worded that wrong. Some of us are not. I really feel England is going to suffer because of Boris. Seeing as he went a different route than the other countries in the UK I would think that it is him who is point scoring not Nicola sturgeon

I haven’t RTWT but yes she’s playing politics and pretending she’s already got an independent country.

She’s also absolutely deluded as our local retail park is so busy they have people directing the traffic in and out of it.

Not to mention the hundreds of cars I can see from my window right now.

Scotland is out and about, we are just waiting for somewhere to go.

I agree with you. I think Scotland, NI, and Wales, are being much more sensible than the Westminster government.
I think it might be less political point scoring and more incompetence and negligence. I also think Boris has had a lot of pressure put on him. I read he and Matt Hancock preferred a more cautious approach.
Agree, don't think NS is point scoring. Not with this. She's simply following the same basic common sense as many countries worldwide.

I'd still be interested to know if any of Scotland's airports are open though. If they are it makes her stance a bit pointless. Unless unlike in England they have checks and quarantine.

She’s doing the “women of the people” bit and hoping no one realises that it’s her governments fault that care home cases in Scotland are not under control.

I'd still be interested to know if any of Scotland's airports are open though. If they are it makes her stance a bit pointless. Unless unlike in England they have checks and quarantine.

It's not in her/the devolved nations' control. Border control is a retained Home Office power.

I think Scotland, NI, and Wales, are being much more sensible than the Westminster government.

How can you think that when NI is allowing groups of up to 6 to meet outdoors from tomorrow and England is restricting the number to two, while Scotland and Wales are planning to disallow ANY meeting of people from outside households for at least another 10 days?

I agree that NI is being more sensible than Scotland, because I think if you offer people clear guidance they can work with they are less likely to break lockdown entirely.

People have been locked down for 9 weeks. If you don't start to ease it up gradually, they will (and are starting to) take it into their own hands.

Of course the airport is open.

Friend’s DH flew out from Glasgow last week for an apparently vital work trip.

I support Nicola. Boris is an idiot.

I agree with NS.. I'm in Wales, still in full lockdown and i don't know a single person who envies those in England, especially when we see the amount of people on public transport in London. Time will tell...

That's interesting. I didn't know that.
So NS has no power to introduce checks or quarantine at Scottish airports?

I agree that we should've been ready after 9 weeks to ease lockdown. But we failed to do what other countries did. Prepare for it so that we could do it more safely. We should've spent the last two months sorting out PPE, masks for the public, drugs, tests, border restrictions or checks. We didn't.

Under the circumstances, the extraordinary situation of a global pandemic, we should be doing all we can go avoid the economic damage and needless loss of lives a bad second wave would cause. That means two or three weeks extra (a very short amount of time in the grand scheme of things) to do what we should've already done.

I didn't realise NI was opening up to. I thought they were doing the same as Scotland. My mistake.

don't know a single person who envies those in England, especially when we see the amount of people on public transport in London. Time will tell...
London's doing a marathon sprint to a bad second wave. France (like many other countries) has the public wearing masks on public transport. Then again they also sent patients to Germany when their hospitals were overwhelmed. When London's hospitals similarly couldn't cope during the first peak, instead of transfering them to less under pressure parts of the UK the threshold for hospital admittance was raised. Hence the amount of deaths. People were dying at home or only being admitted at a stage survival was less likely.

@toffeeyoghurt

Separately from the work trip husband I have another friend who is a pilot and says a large obstacle to their airline flying again just now is not lack of demand but that the airports in Scotland are not prepared yet to support any preventative measures - ppe, distancing etc

Which means those flying right now are doing so without any special measures in place.

But NS seems immune from any real challenges on her devolved responsibilities. And even less so during this crisis for some reason.

Guarantee you the OP is staunch AF.