To ask whether anyone who voted Conservative regrets it now?

[Lifestyleinlondon88]

I would very curious to see if anyone would have voted differently, or if they had the chance to change their vote now would you?

Wow, we made a lot of process over the past 5 years.
Getting fucked over by the swooning PM and muppet from the other party.

And still, here we are, still getting fucked over by the same party of idiots. Oh wait, of course, progress, the muppet got axed. Although whatever muppets name is, seems more appealing to the circus show this lot are trying to entertain us with. That's got to be embarrassing?

Cameron is rather attractive.

Where about. I've flushed more attractive shits down the toilet.

There's a lot of wailing and gnashing of teeth about care homes.
I remember in ?2015 the gov wanting to introduce a payment of 37,000 I think it was by everyone to cover care in old age.
There was an outcry and it was dropped.
T May's gov wanted to make a tax on people to pay for care in later life - it was headlined as the Dementia Tax and they had to drop it quick to not lose the election.
Conservatives did try to do something to sort Care Homes but the public didn't want to pay for it

Of all the irrelevant posts this one takes the biscuit. Wtf has how social care is funded got to do with a virus ripping through care homes and killing thousands of old people?

Wtf has how social care is funded got to do with a virus ripping through care homes and killing thousands of old people?

Is this a joke??

No.

Because social care is even more poorly funded than health care, so when a virus started ripping through the UK the govt ordered hospitals to discharge older patients with unknown CV19 status into care homes so that the health service wasn't overwhelmed.

The care homes were unprepared, untrained, ill-equipped and staffed as sparsely as statutory requirements permit.

That's why over half of deaths in the UK have been in care homes.

Also, the Care Act legislated to keep people in their own homes for as long as possible. All fine and dandy, except care is provided by carers being paid the minimum wage, having to pay for their own essential training like manual handling and first aid, not being paid for travel time who visit multiple clients in a day. Over 90% of home care is now outsourced to which ever agency can put in the lowest cost tender.

They were also unprepared, untrained and ill equipped.

That's what social care funding has to do with the high fatality rate in care homes and amongst older people generally.

Sounds like to go to model.

Make decisions without thinking about anything. Tell everyone do this. Let everyone run around trying to do things with not a Hope in hell of getting the guidelines so start to wing.

No surprise. Yet again oops. Shit hits the fan. It’s was Gladstone’s fault.

Things go great despite no support or anything and cheeky sods take the credit. 🤣

It really is disgusting what he caused from the moment he made that call.

@Lifestyleinlondon88

Hi op, you haven't been back for a while.
Are you surprised at all, 27 pages and not a single Tory voter has even the slightest niggle in their mind and they all think Boris and co are doing an absolute outstanding job on covid and nobody in the world could do better? I'm not surprised. This thread is a good insight to the Tory voter mind. Even if Boris's body count was 10× the appalling number it is now they would still wouldn't have a single doubt and think he's doing a great job.

Odd isn’t it. Yet all those with blood On their hands in prisons, they despise.

And the number of posters who've said they'll ALWAYS vote Tory! Shocking level of critical thinking skills!

Of course not, although every single person who voted Tory should be ashamed of themselves.

I was really heartened this morning. Allison Pearson, who writes for The Telegraph is extremely critical of how this has been handled in today’s column. Given that her fan girling last July was embarrassing and her gloating in December was sickening, that’s quite a turn round.

And oh look at that, erm June 1 might not actually happen. 🤣 LA’s are saying yea jog on are we opening 🤣
I thought all parents wanted them opening.
And all those nasty science and medical people backing schools and the LA’s. With all that nasty health talk.

The hypocrisy is astounding listening the politicians moan about going back to parliament. Shouldn’t be a problem as long as they stay alert and wash their hands. Don’t even have to wear face masks in offices, and can bubble 🤣

If they haven’t got CV, caring responsibilities, the protected groups, and all the rest, shouldn’t be a problem? If they are stuck for childcare, there’s plenty of nanny agencies about. They should have been back on Wednesday, plenty of time to organise childcare.

And of course police and security guards, out there with the constant risk of getting spit at.

2/3 months later and still a higher than usual number of deaths in nursing homes. Yes I know people die, of course. But over 20 a week at least? Yet out in society not seeing the same increase?

Oh but why didn’t the doctors say something? Have you not been listening to them? They have been. Same with education as well.

They got verbal abuse, accused of scare mongering etc when they talk out. Because no that cannot happen.

And yet here we are.
Although some of those in power seem to be slowly waking up and starting to think. Oh, maybe we should have listened to the actual experts.

They say wear a face mask. Do they mention the concerns about them from medical people? The very same people who had to look into this to protect their own staff because off PPE shortages.

You would think when they put up how to make one, they would have also provided some info about this. So people could make an informed choice. Yes we are also responsible, but many as we know don’t.

One of the many reasons why I don’t support any of them. And of course you start asking them any awkward question and well.

@KenDodd

www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/greater-manchester-news/the-numbers-streets-going-rocket-18254318

I personally wish we could have voted for Jacinda Ahern. Now there is a proper grown up response. I do think labour would have been more focused on the safety and well being of the population whatever your views on Jeremy Corbyn. Herd immunity wouldn’t have even been considered.

The school where I'm a governor is willing in principle to try to open but has made a decision that 1st June is just not possible. As things stand at the moment there are too many uncertainties, both around the union and the government position, and with only two official working days left for planning they've decided to tell people it won't be till the following week at the earliest.

Shocking isn’t it?
More of the vulnerable dumped.

Which group next? More and more like Manchester will be published across the country.

And of course, someone else’s fault.

It's funny how people are so tribal about political parties, it's almost like they 'forget' that the public are the ones who vote them in, and the public are the ones who should hold them to account.

The amount of people jumping to this shower of shite's defence is shocking. Folks, you do realise that just because you voted a party in and they got into power, you are allowed as civilian to critique them? They aren't there for you to fawn over, they are there to represent you and act within your interests. So why oh why can tory voters not hold their hands up and say "yes, I voted Tory, but the way they have handled X is sub par". They aren't a football club, you don't HAVE to pledge your undying allegiance to them.

I think most people forget this.

Oh and for all you people with psychic abilities, slating Corbyn. You do realise he formally asked BJ to allow payment holidays not only for people with mortgages, but also for people who rent. He also formally asked for the furlough scheme to be rolled out. That's specifically for the poster who said her son will be voting conservative because he was thankful for being furloughed.

Right at the bottom of the Manchester link;

"A spokesperson for the Ministry for Communities, Housing and Local Government said: "Any suggestion that the Government is reneging on the commitment set out at the start of this national emergency is entirely wrong. We have been clear councils must continue to provide safe accommodation for those that need it, and any suggestion that funding is being withdrawn or people asked to leave hotels is unfounded."

“The latest figures show over 90% of rough sleepers known to councils at the beginning of this crisis have now been made offers of safe accommodation and we have announced Dame Louise Casey will spearhead the next phase of the government’s support for rough sleepers during the pandemic."

“While councils continue to provide accommodation to those that need it, it is only responsible that we work with partners to ensure rough sleepers can move into long-term, safe accommodation once the immediate crisis is over."

It would’ve been responsible to ensure they weren’t so many rough sleepers in the first place. How much have they gone up under the Tories?

It would’ve been responsible to ensure they weren’t so many rough sleepers in the first place. How much have they gone up under the Tories?

Over 60% of rough sleepers in London are not UK citizens - approx 30% are EU citizens and 30% non-EU citizens - obviously linked to increased immigration in some way. Many rough sleepers have no recourse to public funds due to their immigration status.

Oh well that’s all right then. As long as it’s Johnny Foreigner, it doesn’t matter.