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To not be happy with DSS living with us during university?

585 replies

Whatnowwww · 16/05/2020 15:27

DSS is off to university 2021. He is here right now during lockdown, he usually lives with his mum 2 hours away. Over breakfast DH and DSS were talking about the UCAS form, and it transpires that DSS is apparently welcome to live with us during uni; we are in London. Now don’t get me wrong, I love the kid and he’s a good boy. But I am PG and I have a 4 year old, I don’t want to either police the actions of an 18 year old but nor do I want to co habit with an 18 year old. Our house is large but it’s my childhood home, not ‘ours’ i.e. not bought with DH’s and my money but my old DF. I know they both respect me but I just feel so possessive over my home whilst at the same so guilty.
The real reason is that when DSS is here, DH and DSS have so much to talk about that I always feel left out for days on end. I know this isn’t intended and they both love me, this just happens. I fall asleep at 8pm most nights whilst they pick some action film to watch. They have more in common with each other then me and DH have in common, I can handle this is small doses but l’m dreading 3 years of this.

OP posts:
lovepickledlimes · 17/05/2020 12:19

@funinthesun19 'The real reason is that when DSS is here, DH and DSS have so much to talk about that I always feel left out for days on end. I know this isn’t intended and they both love me, this just happens. I fall asleep at 8pm most nights whilst they pick some action film to watch. They have more in common with each other then me and DH have in common, I can handle this is small doses but l’m dreading 3 years of this.' the OP says the main issue is jealousy over the close relationship

ArtieFufkinPolymerRecords · 17/05/2020 12:25

I’ve been in a similar situation. I had to move back to my dad’s for a while when I was in my early twenties.

That is very different to an 18 yo who has always lived with parents. If he wasn't going to university nobody would expect him to leave home at 18, and all those talking about 'having an adult live with you' obviously do not have children around that age - they don't suddenly change when they go from being 17 to 18.

Thisismytimetoshine · 17/05/2020 12:26

If op is falling asleep at 8pm most nights why is she begrudging her oh and his son enjoying some time together? Talk about dog in the manger Hmm

funinthesun19 · 17/05/2020 12:28

Hmmm. Even in a together family, would it really be ok for one parent really watch a film with the kids every night while the other is sat there bored enough to go to bed at 8pm?

They must have enough in common to have married each other. But the film thing is ridiculous. That’s what I mean about there needs to be a balance, which there clearly isn’t there if it’s true.

Expat30 · 17/05/2020 12:33

@funinthesun19 she never said she was bored and falling asleep. She said that she goes to bed at 8pm every night. If my DH chose to go to bed the same time that the kids go to bed, and then begrudge me for spending time with my child. I would be fuming!

funinthesun19 · 17/05/2020 12:36

That is very different to an 18 yo who has always lived with parents. If he wasn't going to university nobody would expect him to leave home at 18, and all those talking about 'having an adult live with you' obviously do not have children around that age - they don't suddenly change when they go from being 17 to 18

To be honest I don’t see much difference between a 17/18/19 year old and a 20/21 year old. They’re still in the middle of finding their feet. Many don’t finish uni until they are 21 and then don’t walk straight in to a job.

funinthesun19 · 17/05/2020 12:42

@funinthesun19 she never said she was bored and falling asleep. She said that she goes to bed at 8pm every night. If my DH chose to go to bed the same time that the kids go to bed, and then begrudge me for spending time with my child. I would be fuming!

No I agree if she’s choosing to go to bed and then not happy that he’s spending time with his son that it’s not right.
I thought he was watching films with his son every night and never spending time with the op.

Lynda07 · 17/05/2020 12:50

If he can go into halls for the first year that would be a good thing however lots of young people live 'at home' nowadays because of lack of funds. It depends whether or not 'your' home is also 'his' home, you said it was your childhood home but presumably you and your husband sorted all that out before marriage, financially and otherwise, making it officially your husband's home.

The mum lives two hours away but in the Greater London area, two hours from one place to another is nothing. Could he not live with her some of the time and certainly during the holidays?

As your house is large he could probably have a sort of bedsit arrangement at yours which he might appreciate, being treated as a proper adult rather than a grown up child living with parent.

This really does need to be discussed openly between you, husband, ex wife and stepson. The last thing anyone would want would be the young chap to feel unwanted or pushed out by his dad's new family, at least I hope so.

I sort of understand how you feel, op, you want to feel comfortable in your own home with two small children but it could work if he lives fairly independently within your house - like having a lodger who is also a relative.

When you got together with your husband you knew he had a big son for whom he felt responsible surely? It always beats me why people get so involved with new partners who have still dependent children when there plenty of folk around with none. I know it works out OK for some but just reading threads on here about step parenting would be enough to put anyone off.

Good communication and frank discussion about finances is essential right now and there is well over a year before the boy goes to uni, a lot can change in that time.

ZorbaTheHoarder · 17/05/2020 12:54

Are you coming back, OP?

Expat30 · 17/05/2020 12:56

@lynda07 you want them to treat their son as a lodger relative?

That is absurd! He is a child who i assume does not work and is about to start UNI. And his father obviously wants to support him in that and wants him to live with them.

What is there to understand? The stepmom already said he is a good boy, but she doesn't want him there because it doesn't suit her, oh and because the house is hers and not her DH's.

Ohffs66 · 17/05/2020 12:56

I'm a SM, DH is NRP (which it sounds is the case here). I've reread the OP a few times and what stands out to me is that it sounds like her DH has told his son he can move in with them, without any discussion at all with the OP.

My DSC have never lived with us and I think I would be pretty miffed at DH making such a big decision without any consultation with me at all; in all likelihood I wouldn't be able to say no regardless of how I felt but at least I would get a chance to voice any concerns I had. If they did already live with us and then decided to stay living here whilst they went to Uni I think that would be different. But someone moving in who doesn't normally live here, when I am paying towards mortgage and bills, then I think I would expect to at least be consulted about how it might all work. OPs reasons do seem a bit off as a lot of you have said but I think it's the fact it was presented as a fait accompli that would bother me the most.

Wolfgirrl · 17/05/2020 13:47

@Ohffs66

Yes but the thread wasnt about OP's hubby not consulting her. It was about the fact she doesn't want DSS moving in. Hence the replies.

therona · 17/05/2020 14:07

It would be different if he was there full-time, you and DSS would bond and feel more comfortable with each other and your DH would have less to chat to him about. You can't say no, really, though your DH should have asked you before offering.

Feedingthebirds1 · 17/05/2020 14:14

She said that she goes to bed at 8pm every night.

I think this is being taken out of context. To me, the OP meant that she goes to bed at 8.00 to get out of the way when it's clear that the DH and his DS are going to watch an action film and do some bonding while the OP feels sidelined. Not that she goes to bed at 8.00 every night, or that she does it whenever the DS is with them.

Crunchymum · 17/05/2020 14:19

Did the OP never come back? Shock

Becstar90 · 17/05/2020 14:23

Would you feel this way if this child was your own? Or how would you feel if your bio child's step mum said this about your child? Genuine question.

Expat30 · 17/05/2020 14:32

@Crunchymum nope she didn't. I wonder why? Confused

highmarkingsnowmobile · 17/05/2020 14:40

I can only imagine how this thread would have read if the OP were a man and said this about his wife and her child. It would be 100% telling her to LTB.

YABVU.

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Whatnowwww · 17/05/2020 15:43

Thank-you so much for the replies, it’s all given me much much food for thought. And yes of course the guilt for my feelings is even heavier laid having read the word on the street and I’m the first to admit I’m not the most laid back person. I have always got on well with DSS, I just know there’s quite a strong contrast between how students want to live and small children and mothers. For example, girlfriends staying the night, music playing, ad hoc get togethers, different meal patterns, late nights. I remember how exciting all that was. I don’t want to put limits on DSS’s freedom and I’m worried about ruining our relationship. DH says this is a confidence issue on my part but DSS has always been so good I’ve never told him off in my life. I don’t want to start now!

OP posts:
mangoinafrillydress · 17/05/2020 16:13

@bellbeast

No need to call OP that. What a nasty person you are

melj1213 · 17/05/2020 16:17

I have always got on well with DSS, I just know there’s quite a strong contrast between how students want to live and small children and mothers. For example, girlfriends staying the night, music playing, ad hoc get togethers, different meal patterns, late nights

Not every student has that lifestyle, so unless your DSS already has that kind of lifestyle why would you be more worried about that developing than his happiness and relationship with his father?

It is very easy to set ground rules about him staying with you during uni - limits on overnight guests, music levels, parties, meal arrangements, evening disturbances etc (and tbh his friends are probably going to be in halls so he'd be more likely to go there to drink/party etc) rather than outright decide he cannot stay because of what might happen.

Wolfgirrl · 17/05/2020 16:18

OP I think you're now trying to steer the ship in the 'it's not best for him' direction.

You can absolutely lay down the rules (with your husband) to make sure DSS's student life doesn't impact your peace at home. Maybe things like a weekday curfew, making it clear he will be doing his own chores, needing advance notice of friends coming round etc.

A student experience isnt worth ~35k of debts at the end. And he can still go out, stay over his mates' houses, etc. I'm sure he would have plenty of fun.

He could also make himself useful as an occasional babysitter, entertaining your 4 year old when you need a break, or helping with washing/cooking etc.

He could actually be an asset to your household, but that's by the by - he is your husband's son and you knew that when you married him.

lovepickledlimes · 17/05/2020 16:19

@Whatnowwww it would be 100% reasonable to set some ground rules such as no bringing home a string of partners, staying out stupid hours, or being disrespectful of other household members and I am sure DH would agree to that

YinMnBlue · 17/05/2020 16:28

And Dss would probably skedaddle off to live his best life as a student elsewhere.

It’s true: living with a family probably isn’t the lifestyle he would prefer.

A noise and visitor curfew: fine. But it isn’t reasonable to tell an adult child what time they can come home Hmm

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