To not want my child to return to a school full of reluctant teachers

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Even if the Government endorses school reopening, who would want to send their child into an environment where the teachers clearly do not want them there ?

I don’t think I’m childish for posting flowers. It’s just that I HAVE been in school teaching key worker kids and I resent being told I’m reluctant to do my job. Of course teachers are worried. It doesn’t mean we are reluctant to do our jobs. The endless teacher bashing threads are wearing.

Don't worry - people will return to nhs bashing soon.

The council near me have decided not to reopen the schools for the years stated by the governemnt they are putting the teachers and kids first.

who would want to send their child into an environment where the teachers clearly do not want them there ?

Because all teachers, every single one of them, want the schools for themselves. They've been so happy just milling around the corridors and pottering about in the classrooms these past seven weeks and are perfectly within their rights to fight to keep it that way FOREVER.

Any rumours you may have heard about teachers being concerned for the safety of the children, themselves and their colleagues, are complete and utter nonsense.

Look, it took a long time for teachers to create corona virus...the glorious 7 week holiday we’ve had so far just hasn’t been long enough so of course we can’t possibly go back yet.

HTH OP

The teacher bashers need something else to whinge about now that the BMA has weighed in on the side of schools not opening. :o

Ooh, what a surprise. The OP has legged it.

I dont think the current situation is helping anyone. If the government announced all children would return in September and repeat the year they are in currently it would take pressure off schools and teachers.

I think it is legitimate that parents fear the loss of education, for decades it has been indoctrinated on us as a society that education is so important. Now that a virus with a very low mortality rate has turned up we are supposed to willingly accept six months or more of no formal education.

I am getting used to home education (and wfh!) and the longer it goes on the more I realise school is important for socialisation, I'm happy trying to teach the content at home.

I think Oakesshitt et al. are out in full force tonight.

For those asking about flowers: To ask what the flower is? http://www.mumsnet.com/Talk/amiibeingunreasonable/3260896-to-ask-what-the-flower-is

Exactly what @saraclara said. We are professionals. However badly we feel about situation, your children will be the last to know.

Don't fucking send them in then.

This week we have spent many hours arranging classrooms, corridors, resources, individual areas, lunch and break time spaces, cordoned off safe spaces with tape, planning P.E, class lessons, PSHE activities, etc etc etc to ensure when our children come back it is as safe as it can be without being frightening.
If children need comforting they will be, we Will administer first aid as normal and support in class/at play as we usually do.
The key worker’s children have had a a great week as usual and are looking forward to more joining them, as are we!
Nobody wishes the children weren’t there or were not coming back.

@AvoidingRealHumans

communications from the school making me doubt myself

Having the right information to make a sensible decision and change your mind if needed is fine.

That's one of the things your child's teachers will help them to understand in the absence of you being able to do it yourself.

Oh dear - another one of these! Not going to read the thread as it is the same old same old. Just de-register your child and home school.

We were all expecting staggered days in school and planned for such, then the bombshell that they expect ALL children to be in at once. Spent 4 hours in a zoom call today with a 2 and a 6 year old wailing beside me (have already done my 3 days in school teaching key workers children, thanks) trying to make the ridiculous government guidelines workable. They’re not, by the way. I particularly like the suggestion that groups of children should not exceed 15 yet we have 34 children per class in KS2. We are a very small school. We don’t have the rooms, staff of facilities to make this feasible. The PP who said either we end social distancing or we don’t is spot on.

I love flowers. They make me happy. And forget the shitstorm we're in at this moment in time.

Anyway, I suggest you all read this cos it's actually very good. And exactly how my colleagues and I feel:

achemicalorthodoxy.wordpress.com/2020/05/14/i-want-to-go-back-to-school/

Teachers need to get over themselves, why can't they answer a question on here without getting defensive.

Because we always seem to be having to repeat ourselves. We do try to explain but many posters, who tend to make generalisations about us as a profession ("where the teachers clearly do not want them there"), read what we say and just ignore it.

It's a shame, because sometimes a genuine query or concern can get buried under teacher-bashing as others jump on the OP's thread and derail it.

But there's a difference between the threads like "AIBU to report this GP?", "AIBU to think this shop assistant was rude?", "Why did this police officer really stop me?" and "Why are teachers reluctant to go back to work?"

Don't fucking send them in then

Top post, Herc :o

I'll bite. I'm not reluctant. The thought of children returning before it is safe (or bring used as a test to see if the r rate goes up) and catching the virus, becoming seriously ill and suffering/potentially dying keeps me up at night. The child transmitting and losing a parent or carer keeps me up at night. My school losing another member of staff to the virus keeps me up at night. I'm a teacher and I'm not sending my kids back, even though I will be going back - what does that tell you?

I feel like my son needs to go back to school for his own wellbeing

I understand why you say that but please be aware that school won’t be the same place that he walked out of 7 weeks ago.
If he is year 1 for example might not be with his friends, he will have to work at a desk all day, little or no free play, no working in groups, no sharing a book, no cuddles from his teacher when he falls over. Possibly a different classroom, different daily routine. Scheduled times to go to the toilet. Possibly lunch in his classroom too.
A good chance that his friends won’t be there or if they are they might be in a different group.
His teacher will probably do their best but they will be struggling to adapt, upset and stressed.

If you know all of that and are still happy to send him back that’s fine.

The teachers I know are far from reluctant. You’ll be fine

@CallmeAngelina - as I understand it they are not teaching the children in the schools it’s just childcare. And providing a daily worksheet is not really all I expect from my child’s teacher. So no, they are obviously not doing their jobs at the moment. I don’t really have any time for claims that they are working 12 hour days at the moment, etc. doing what?

Teachers jobs are to teach children in the schools. If a supermarket worker refused to do their job or was unable to, they would be dismissed. If it’s decided for schools to go back, the same should apply to teachers.

People on mn criticize everyone in society, my profession is widely criticized. Given this is mumsnet, mums are likely concerned about education. I don’t have any time for flowers or flouncing because someone can’t take any criticism.