To not want my child to return to a school full of reluctant teachers

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Even if the Government endorses school reopening, who would want to send their child into an environment where the teachers clearly do not want them there ?

GlennRheeismyfavourite Thank you

Of teachers are forced back in against their will they will know it isn’t the children that have made that happen.

Imagining teachers don’t have the critical thinking to work that out is pretty insulting.

I just wanted to say that, at the beginning I was a bit at teachers who were strongly advising against a return to school so early.

However, after the brilliant post linked to upthread I have one thing to say...

Imagining teachers don’t have the critical thinking to work that out is pretty insulting Ok point taken

@olivehater
Have you actually any idea what it's going to be like when your child goes back? It's going to be nothing like the norm school was before all this. Try reading the Government guidance and see how schools are actually going to be.
You're not true frontline either, frontline is those working with Covid patients IMO, those are the people risking their lives, I've lost my best friend to this booody awful virus, she was an ICU nurse.

@GlennRheeismyfavourite
I want to go back as well, all teachers I know want to go back, they just think thst now is too soon, they are not prepared to put the children they care about at risk.

Just a heads up - some teachers want to go back - I'm desperate to!!

Me too, just not the expense of my health or to conform with some shit-eating grin performance seemingly required by the OP.

Anything will be better than him staring at his iPad all day! Kids are pretty resilient to change.

And thanks for that. I scanned two positive covid pregnant women last week. Maybe I am not “true front line” But I am putting myself out there.

Children in other countries have 13 weeks summer holidays without any ill effect

We clearly care more about your child than you do if you're willing to put his life at risk.

@LadyPenelope68 while I don't disagree with most of your posts about this situation, the above posts is completely out of order. Everyone is frustrated at the moment with such a dreadful situation but there's absolutely no need to be so personal and unkind. I think you owe @olivehater an apology.

Comments like this do absolutely nothing to help teachers in this situation. In fact, quite the opposite, it gives people ammunition against them.

It's important to bear in mind the other bombshell Boris dropped that it might be all year groups back two or three weeks later. If the three who are returning must be split up into bubbles of no more than 15, and hygiene must be so stringent, how is this going to happen with the other four primary year groups in as well? Or are we just going to scrap those principles because everything will be OK by mid-June?
Sir Patrick Valance stated in March that a 13-16 week period of closure may well be needed. This was at the point before we became the country with one of the highest death rates in the world and the highest number of deaths in Europe. When are we going to learn and accept that we have to start bringing children back to school very slowly and very cautiously?

@Ethelfleda
Which post was that?

@mumtomaxwell so you don’t like people making sweeping generalisations that teachers are being lazy and reluctant but are happy to do so about parents?!

Fuck off with your ‘because they don’t want to parent their kids’ attitude

I have one 6 year old DS and a supportive employer so my life is not as difficult as it could be.

Life is a lot less stressful for us (apart from the usual covid wall we all seem to hit at times) as we’re not rushing around the same.

However, I want my DS to go back to school because I want him to see and talk to another child other than through a screen; I want his love of learning to return; I want to see him happy and engaged when he has been learning about a subject from a qualified teacher and feeding from the other children in his class; I don’t think it is good for his emotional development to be stuck at home with no other child; I don’t want the incredible progress he has made (and his enthusiasm for school and learning) as a late summer born to be undone.

Not one of my reasons for wanting him to return are about not wanting to parent my child!

I agree with Megatron about LadyPenelope's comments .

However overall I accept that IABU in doubting teachers professionalism.
I am going to leave the thread now .

@Megatron
Well you'll be waiting a long time.

@LadyPenelope68 I'm not waiting for an apology, I don't need one, you didn't insult me you insulted olive. Doesn't mean I won't speak up against such poor behaviour.

Sometimes you just hope people will do the right thing. I have such respect for teachers and what they do (I work with them every day) and none of those that I work with would tell a parent that teachers care about their child more than that parent does, or that they're not 'true' front line in their job as a HCP. Not one of them would do that. I doubt you would to anyone's face either and like a said, comments like these just give the teacher bashers ammunition against them and that's not fair.

You're not true frontline either, frontline is those working with Covid patients IMO, those are the people risking their lives Appalling

Thank you Megatron. I can see that it’s a very emotive subject for LadyPenelope.
She has lost her friend. I am genuinely sorry for your loss LadyPenelope. I guess when it is that close to home it does put things in a different perspective for you.

However, I want my DS to go back to school because I want him to see and talk to another child other than through a screen; I want his love of learning to return; I want to see him happy and engaged when he has been learning about a subject from a qualified teacher and feeding from the other children in his class; I don’t think it is good for his emotional development to be stuck at home with no other child; I don’t want the incredible progress he has made (and his enthusiasm for school and learning) as a late summer born to be undone.

Unfortunately this isn't what will be happening. The children will he kept apart, learning in the classroom will remain similar to what it is now; worksheets etc. There won't be formal teaching, as it's impossible and impractical and unfair on those children who are unable to return to the classroom (due to the fact they or their family shielding). It won't be the same version of school your child knows.

@Megatron
So it's ok for you to start being derogatory about me, but you criticise me saying something about someone else? Pot ....kettle.....black springs to mind.

I disagree that we shouldn’t teach some children because some aren’t able to return. That’s like cutting your nose off to spite your face. Help everyone improve and catch as and when they return or what’s the point in them making the effort to return. I also think the emphasis should be on outdoor learning, especially for the little ones. Our school has a forest school area. I hope that they make the most of it.

www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2020/05/16/second-wave-coronavirus-europe-winter-uk/

What happens when we get the second wave?

@LadyPenelope68. Can you point out what I said in my posts that is derogatory about you? Disagreeing with a poster and saying why you disagree, is not derogatory. I've re-read my own posts and I can't see what you mean?

ElizabethMountbatten
Thank you!

It's exactly that. Teachers largely want to go back to normal in a phased way with appropriate, workable plans that consider everyone's safety.

Many schools need 12-15 classes to get their reception /y1/y6 back, in school buildings with only 10 classrooms. Where are the extra staff coming from? Where are the extra classrooms coming from?
Some on Mumsnet think teachers sticking a smile on their face will magically increase the size of school sites, numbers of bathrooms, numbers of staff.

Also, @LadyPenelope68, I'm sorry you lost your friend. I also lost a relative to this virus and it is the most shit time for everyone really isn't it.

I hate that it's pushing people further apart rather than closer together.