To not want my child to return to a school full of reluctant teachers

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Even if the Government endorses school reopening, who would want to send their child into an environment where the teachers clearly do not want them there ?

Devlesko, do you really think I wouldn't rather sit at home like most people??

I have been using the school because I work in a team of 10. Three are vulnerable so cannot be patient facing. Three are off sick with the virus, have been off for a few weeks. If I said awk sure, someone at MN reckons I am being selfish going to work, I am sitting at home too, do you think my boss would say 'good for you'?

Do you think the pregnant women I care for, the new mothers, the new babies, do you think they would be happy to not be able to receive any care?

I absolutely love my job and care so much about the women and babies on my caseload that yes, my children have to attend school some days.

Thankfully their teachers are incredibly lovely and supportive and so the dc love going.

Thanks for the judgement. Perhaps if I was your midwife you might be a bit more grateful that I am willing to work?

This will be very outing if any of my colleagues are here but our Head said on Friday he couldn't live with himself if one child or adult died because he let more students back (not reopen as we never closed). Doubt Gav feels the same way about staff and students - we are just expendable.

They are worried about your child, they don't need to be but that's teachers, hey.

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Your kids are at school, you aren't complaining about the fact you have no childcare.
I don't get your point, you have no problem.

I had my opinions of teachers changed today because some mns helpfully and politely replied to me genuine questions. And then you get snotty snidey posts like that and I think.. Yep.. Teacher...

The vast majority of teachers on here are clearly trying to do their best of the children. Most come across as genuinely caring and lovely. The teachers at my DC's schools are mostly outstanding! Unfortunately there will always be the odd anomaly, a couple on this thread really upset me this morning, just as I was getting ready for work. I ended up reassuring myself that I am lucky, I bloody love my job. I would hate to feel the way they do. I go off to work with a smile on my face everyday, it must be awful to not feel that way.

Dev, why do you think my children are at school? For childcare!!! What is there to not understand? Apparently I am putting my need for childcare above my children's lives, according to your hyperbole. I have read many similar posts of yours before.

The level of blatant contempt for teachers on here has made me extremely angry. They have been vilified for advising caution in returning children back to school because they are worried for their own health and that of the children.

I honestly think those posters who think so little of teachers shouldn't be sending their kids in at all. I send my kids to school because I believe teachers do a far better job of teaching them than I could. I have spent a lot of time in my eldest dc's school over the years because he has a physical disability and roughly twice a week I would need to leave work to take him home.

The teachers have been nothing but kind and supportive. I have also seen them being kind and supportive to other children too.

My middle child goes to a special school. They have toilet trained him, taught him to speak and he is just starting to read and write. They also find him funny and kind and genuinely like him.

As a parent of three kids, two of whom have needed much, much more from teachers than most kids, I couldn't find a way to thank them enough.

Thank you so much, MrsBobDylan, for those words. They're nice to hear.
(Genuine!!)

@MrsBobDylan, thank you. As a recently retired teacher who taught children like your son, your post means a lot. And I'm sure all the present teachers on here, in all types of schools, appreciate it too.

Dangerous virus! This is not small pox or plague or Ebola! Get a grip.
Sadly SOME (not most) old people who caught it who are deficient in Vitaminf D or obese have died. An infinitesimal number have died under 45 and they had health issues. Children are not at risk of catching or spreading. But they are boring made to suffer for a hysterical minority who are scared of their own shadows.

This thread is like the Chelsea fucking Flower Show.

Why can posters just tell the OP to fuck off and have done with it?

Telling people to fuck off is against the talk guidelines.

And the flowers at least signify that the whole world doesn’t agree with the bashers.

I think it's clear from the last couple of weeks that Mumsnet HQ has absolutely no issue with teacher bashing threads at all. Teachers appear to be fair game. Shame.

Megatron
Give it a few days and I'm sure the Daily Mail will have turned up to lift a few posts for their article 'the nation's mums slam teachers for refusing to do their job'.

But it’s ok for me as a healthcare proffesional to got to work and risk getting the virus. I do obstetric scanning. Half the scans i do aren’t necessary and a largely for reassurance. Maybe I should just tell the patients I don’t want to put myself at any risk and tell them all to it’s selfish of them to come in.

What PPE do you have to do your job, olivehater?

@olivehater Good Point!

A plain surgical mask ( only change at breaks) and gloves. A tiny pinny if I can find any. Not full PPE.
Bear in mind I am rather close to them. Arm on their belly. I scan 15-20 patients per day. And I have been doing this since the start of the lock down. Not the second stage of the lockdown.

I have three children and my youngest go to nursery. The staff don’t do any social distancing with my children and are absolutely amazing and don’t complain or make a fuss. They pick my baby straight out of my arms and cuddle him. They really are the unsung heroes of this. Working with the youngest and least able to socially distance children for not much more than minimum wage. They haven’t been all over the news.

My eldest is year one and is suffering from not being at school while his dad works full time from home. He refuses to do schoolwork now. He ends up going on the iPad all day while I am at work. He needs to go back for the sake of his mental health. So when I hear his teachers don’t want him back it makes me pretty angry to be frank.

@olivehater
So when I hear his teachers don’t want him back it makes me pretty angry to be frank.
Well.it makes me pretty angry when parents make pathetic comments like this! It's not a case of "not wanting him back" his teachers actually want to protect him and not put him, themselves or any other children at risk. We clearly care more about your child than you do if you're willing to put his life at risk.

@BeltaneBride
Children are not at risk of catching or spreading. But they are boring made to suffer for a hysterical minority who are scared of their own shadows.
Have you actually looked at the statistics recently? Go try educate yourself about the facts, before slagging off teachers.

That is one of the nastiest comments I have ever read on mumsnet to suggest I don’t love my child.

NOt that I have to explain myself (as I have been on the front line from the start) I have already had covid as has the rest of my family!

You really don’t deserve to call yourself a teacher LadyPenelope if that’s what you think of parents who want their children to have and education .

Olive's comment is not pathetic at all LadyPenelope it's genuine frustration.
To say you care more about a child than the parent is ridiculous, and to say it's putting his life at risk is massively overreacting in my opinion . Yes we all have concerns , but it has to be done so lets get on with it, all of us , parents and teachers.

Which brings me back to my original point . If you feel this strongly and are forced to return to your job as a teacher against your will, are you going to be able to do this with a smile on your face ? Which many teachers posting have said they will which is good to hear by the way.

Just a heads up - some teachers want to go back - I'm desperate to!!

If you feel this strongly and are forced to return to your job as a teacher against your will, are you going to be able to do this with a smile on your face?

Is that your line in the sand?

Why should anyone have to smile for their job? We're not lap dancers or synchronised swimmers.

All we have to do is turn up and do the work.