To think the Queen is pretty fucking cool

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Just that really.
We’re going to struggle when she goes

Alsohuman It’s not always rich people. You can easily have a parent with a home valued just above the minimum but actually be skint. You’d have to sell the home. The queen doesn’t pay inheritance tax. What about bedroom tax though, you think that’s fair?

Ha ha ha ha!

Care to elaborate on that, derxa?

You can easily have a parent with a home valued just above the minimum but actually be skint. You’d have to sell the home

In which case you wouldn’t be losing your home. You’d have to sell an asset.

No it could easily be your home. I read about a woman who had slight learning difficulties, and who depended on her parents. When her mother died she was unable to keep the home. she didn’t have the money to pay the tax. She would have managed, it was all she’d ever known.

For all those braying and frothing about tax payers money, have you actually studied the queen's funding/tax set up?

The family OWN the vast majority of their land, I can't see movie stars or musicians offering up their empty london homes either, but they're not lambasted? If the royal family dissolved, these properties wouldn't fall back into the public's hands.

The queen has seen and experienced Britain through nearly a century of constant change, and has remained informed, considered and relevant. She's informed on parliament's dailt activities and taken my a prime minister to task when they've not made the right call.

God save the Queen. 🇬🇧

The family OWN the vast majority of their land

They don't. They so don't. The Duchies of Cornwall and Lancaster are a scam perpetrated on the British people. That is our land and we are owed rent.

The queen has seen and experienced Britain through nearly a century of constant change, and has remained informed, considered and relevant.

Seeing it and being informed isn't enough. If she actually did something to help the people I would be impressed. It's easy to close your doors to poverty when they are so big I suppose.

I can't see movie stars or musicians offering up their empty london homes either, but they're not lambasted?

But apparently they’ve worked hard for their millions. Despite the likes of Victoria Beckham not knowing what a day’s work looks like.

The Duchy of Cornwall is a well-managed private estate, which was established by Edward III in 1337

The Duchy of Lancaster is a private estate owned by Her Majesty The Queen, as Duke of Lancaster

It appears you’re wrong, Mockers.

If she actually did something to help the people I would be impressed

What realistically do you expect a 94 year old woman to do?

The queen and Chazzer as intellectuals. Srsly. Lol.

What realistically do you expect a 94 year old woman to do?

Well she hasn't always been 94, has she?

Let's add to that that her age is irrelevant given her vast wealth and access to whatever resources she wants.

I can’t believe people haven’t commented on this piece of nonsense
Dh and I were discussing earlier how it would just be the worst thing ever if she died during this crisis even if it wasn’t from CV. Not sure the country will make it through if she does
I can’t even articulate...won’t make it through? What? Well all collapse in a heap and give in to the virus? We’ll all stop looking after our families, doing the work we can, getting in with stuff?
What the actual fuck does that even mean @DaisylovesDonald?
Un-fucking-believeable levels of nonsense. Makes me cross. Can you tell?

So what do you want her to do?

The Queen dying would not affect me in any way other than that I would cancel my newspaper subscription for a few weeks as I would expect it to be only royal stuff to read.

I am right. It's hers because she is Duke of Lancaster, an honarary and non-hereditary title. Parliament could make me Duke of Lancaster and then it would be mine. Better still, they could nationalise it.

So what do you want her to do?

I could spend days making suggestions about that. But it won't be helpful. The fact is I'm not impressed by her because she hasn't done a thing to help the poverty stricken people of her country. That's reasonable enough without providing a list of things she could do, because let's face it, the possibilities are endless.

She personifies nothing but unearned hereditary privilege in an increasingly unequal country. The monarchy is an anachronistic embarrassment, regardless of the individual who happens to be monarch at any one point.

This. She personifies inequality and unearned privilege.

Better still, they could nationalise it

So you accept those estates are privately owned. How about we nationalise your house? Would that be OK?

I could spend days making suggestions about that

In which case you could spare a few seconds to give us one or two examples, couldn’t you?

In which case you could spare a few seconds to give us one or two examples, couldn’t you?

Or I could not rise to it

She hasn’t done a thing during this pandemic except a couple of speeches. I don’t get the hype of the queen.

@Pixiefringe God bless the Queen, she is brilliant

What is it that makes her brilliant/

Really @cardibach? While I obviously don’t mean that the country literally won’t survive, if you look at things like the depth of feeling when Diana died and multiply that by a fair bit and then add in the heightened emotional state and complete disaster the country is already in I’m just saying it wouldn’t be ideal would it.....
You and a lot of other people in this thread don’t like the Queen or the Royal Family, that’s fine. But there are plenty of people who do, in particular the Queen who has reigned since before many of us were born. Look at the viewing figures for her speeches or royals weddings or the hundreds of thousands of people who come out to watch them..... I do think it would have a pretty disastrous effect on the country if something happens while we are already in a crisis yes, and I think a lot of people who respect and admire her would find it a very hard thing to deal with on top of everything else going on.

If anything this Covid 19 crisis has shown just how superfluous they really are. And people are realizing this. I suspect if anything is going to struggle after the death of Elizabeth II, it will be the institution of the monarchy itself. I would anticipate there being be some very searching, pertinent and long-overdue questions asked when that time comes.

I anticipate we’ll all have far more pressing and urgent things to think about and the future of the monarchy will be a long way down a very long list.

the depth of feeling when Diana died

There was certainly a breadth of feeling but I don't think it ran very deep for most of the public. It was a horrible, self-indulgent exercise of mass grief tourism.

I remember reading in 1998 about a memorial event in London on the anniversary of her death - they were expecting thousands - had the police lined up to clear the roads so they could walk the path of her funeral; parade - only a handful of people turned up.

Other than her loved ones and a small minority of fanatics, who misses Diana now? I bet not many under 25 even know who she is.

I can guarantee it would be the same if we deposed the Queen. There'd be a huge fuss but in a year's time only a handful would think of her.