To not want to move to Wales?

[dgarcia85]

My OH and I live in SE London and we are about to start TTC. We both agree we need to decide where we want to live as we want our kids to have a stable home and not move around. I work at a council and earn £35K. It’s a great place to work and I don’t want to leave. I also will be starting a second consulting job soon earning an additional £10K. My OH is studying p/t and earns £20K. I want to move closer to work most likely Purley renting first and then buying when we can afford too. OH doesn’t think we will ever be able to buy anything in Croydon/London and he wants to move to Wales where his parents are as it’s cheaper and they can help out with any kids. I’m from the Caribbean originally and I’ve been living in London for 15 years and made it my home and I don’t really want to start over in another new plus. Hi Plus I feel like our mixed race kids would fit in better in London and I love my job. I know Wales makes more sense financially but I can’t bring myself to agree to it and its now causing arguments....

That house is in Adamsdown/Splott and not Roath as claimed by the agent. You can tell by which side of Newport Rd it's on. Despite proximity to Roath, this is one of the most deprived areas of Cardiff (and of western Europe) but you'd have to see how you feel about the actual street. I was shocked at how big the garden was.

Heh. Fair dos. I was wondering what was going on there. I've just looked at the map myself - Roath my arse!

That said, I understand that Splott is meant to be 'on the turn'? I've no first-hand experience - i've not been there for years.

When looking for a house in Thats assumed me as when house buying in Cardiff we drew a line along Newport road and South of it we wouldn't view (no matter what the estate agents called it). Its prob good value, and is close to the real roath and very pricey penylan.

Sorry, my text got jumbled!

"I understand that Splott is meant to be 'on the turn'? I've no first-hand experience - i've not been there for years."

It's been called up-and-coming for a while, but this has never happened and some people are in negative equity.
That wouldn't in itself stop me buying there though if I liked the location. The Royal Oak is an OK pub when open and that road is close to Roath and the lovely Waterloo Gardens.

And yes parking may be tricky, but permits. Primary schools there are really good (moorlands and howardian)

" It's also near a really dodgy pub."

You think the Royal Oak is dodgy??

Wales=Mordor

Grangetown is also said to be gentrifying on account of its proximity. to the Senedd and WMC and Cardiff Bay generally.

Wales=Mordor

Kalifa=Bigot

Wales=Mordor

For what it's worth, this is how most small-minded prejudice works nowadays. People have protested there's no anti-welsh sentiment on this thread. But if you know, you know.

Then, someone of little brain who can't manage to couch their prejudice in longer words comes along and 'articulate's what too many are unfortunately thinking. And the whole thing is laid bare.

Cheers, Kalifa, you've done us a favour.

What is a Mordor?

After all this, the OP’s dream job will probably come up in Glasgow.

Just a message from the depths of the Welsh Valleys - Treorchy, a small village in the upper reaches of the Rhondda Valley (technically closer to Brecon Beacons than Cardiff) won the British High Street of the Year in March (bugger of a year to have won it). It has more independent shops than national chains and with a direct train link to Cardiff (50 minutes) less than an hour to the coast and less than that to Brecon and about 50 minutes to Swansea. There is a Grade 2 listed Edwardian Theatre which has performances by the WNO. The local school has performed Les Mis and Phantom in the theatre...yes it's a cultural and social pit :-)

So how many times per week do you visit Swansea, Cardiff, the Brecon's, the coast or go to the theatre.

Apart from the theatre do you actually travel frequently to these places.

I know myself and friends travel into London normally once or twice per week to do stuff.

I can't speak for others, obviously, but when I lived in cardiff we'd get out of the city maybe one weekend in two - the Beacons, the Gwent Levels (an underrated gem), the Gower. Coastal country parks like Porthkerry are about 20 mins away.

The Gower's just over an hour away if you get out early and beat the traffic - that's Croydon to the National History Museum.

But of course it's not london is it, and you don't have properties to flog there, so it must be shit, and all the people who live there must be lazy and can't be bothered to travel to the next town.

In my experience of living both in the valleys and now the suburbs of Cardiff, oliversmumsarmy, people who live in the valleys tend to either work in Cardiff (so daily), or go every weekend either into town or out to the wider countryside, depending whether they're into hiking and cycling or theatre and restaurants. It's all really close. Why do you ask?
In the suburbs (sort of, described as a "semi rural village") we go several times a week, for work or for meeting up with friends and family outings, and certainly every weekend. It's a 15-20min journey.

As an aside I have 3 friends who live in Splott, and they all love it. All 3 happen to be vegan and love the community and proximity to Roath, town and the Bay.

In answer to Oliversmumsarmy before the lock down I went to Cardiff most weeks on my half day; Swansea once or twice a month; to the coast - a few times a week as the DCs and the dogs love it; Brecon - every Sunday as we have horses on a friends farm.

As for the Theatre, if there is a good film showing I'll go - same when there are live shows - if there is something I like I might go a few times in one month and then not go for a few weeks.

I love London - I went to Uni there - and I do miss the buzz of life there, but for some on here to be so dismissive of places they don't know, it really winds me up.

@Oliversmumsarmy pre lockdown we were out once a week. To the beach, the city centre, Cosmeston Country Park. The Brecon Beacons National Park is huge so the fringes of it are probably 30 mins away on a good day. I live on the Taff Trail so I have access to green space all the time.
I adore London and spend a lot of time there (or did before all this) but quality of life is far better in Cardiff (in my opinion obviously). My sister who lives in London is seriously rethinking her future post lockdown.

The last time I lived outside of London in a village near a really small town the people I met some only went to the local town once per year for Christmas shopping and in the town I met people who thought it was the centre of the universe and so fantastic in their whole life had never ventured out of the town apart for a holiday each year where they spent it on a farm 5 miles away

They would reel off how close things were but no one had ever been to these places

@Oliversmumsarmy you said you live in zone 5 or zone 6? I would say lots of people who live there don't go into zone 1, twice a wk, every wk unless they work there.

Certainly not the people I know.

We must know different people

Clearly!

The last time I lived outside of London in a village near a really small town the people I met some only went to the local town once per year for Christmas shopping and in the town I met people who thought it was the centre of the universe and so fantastic in their whole life had never ventured out of the town apart for a holiday each year where they spent it on a farm 5 miles

Bloody hell not surprised you moved out of there quick @Oliversmumsarmy

They would reel off how close things were but no one had ever been to these places

But you and your mates go regularly into zone 1, I don't quite get the implication. People do visit stuff, people don't visit stuff. People in London visit stuff, out of London they don't visit stuff. It's like listening to Boris Johnson tbh.

I know myself and friends travel into London normally once or twice per week to do stuff.