To think Nicola Sturgeon is deluded

[Sadie789]

... if she thinks that people who want to exercise twice a day aren’t already exercising twice a day.

And that if Boris eases lockdown restrictions on Sunday that the whole of Scotland is going to accept being trapped at home for another three weeks?

And that the shops and takeaways and other businesses that are already opening up are going to suddenly revert back to a strict lockdown?

And that the “economy can recover”?

Really?

This is a crazy agenda.

www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/politics/nicola-sturgeon-extremely-concerned-claims-21864414

This has both her comments on it and a screenshot of the Gompels website that sparked the concern in the first place.

Everythinginred

Yes

I live on the border with the Republic of Ireland I know people literally 5 mins away are adhering to the much stricter lockdown without complaint

We have stuck to once a day exercise. We will continue to do so until it's changed. If I had a dog I might think differently I suppose

Scotland has a higher per capita death rate than the U.K. average currently, daily deaths are flat rather than decreasing on average,

The thing is that in Scotland the types of deaths are different. Over 50% of people dying in Scotland are in care homes. www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-52472879

I think for the UK as a whole (which obviously includes Scotland), it's about a third of all deaths.

But care homes can be sealed up and the virus contained - and they already are. Keeping me locked up in my house and stopping all personal freedoms is going to have ZERO effect on the people in care homes.

And I do understand the argument that every life is important, and that we have to save lives. But there is a balance to be struck between protecting the tine minority who will die, and the overwhelming majority who need to keep the economy going, or face years of unemployment and deprivation. There was a piece on the Scottish news about a woman who had very sadly died in a care home, her family were on saying how well she was, how fit and healthy, how tragic it was. She was 96! The chances of her dying in the next year without a pandemic would have been incredibly high anyway! Because she's ninety fucking six!!!

Yes protect the shielded. But at the moment, despite Sturgeon's protestations about treating us like adults, we're being treated like a bunch of 5 year olds who have no personal freedoms and have to do what Miss Sturgeon tells us.

On the other hand, I was in two different supermarkets this week, a week after her decree that we should all be covering our faces. No face masks in evidence. Most people just ignore most of what she says.

I think you are deluded Sadie

You going to lock the care home staff up.with the residents? They need to go shopping for their families too and will come.into contact with members of the public.

I've seen a significant rise in people wearing facemasks though

I've seen a significant rise in people wearing facemasks though

I've seen a lot more people wearing facemasks. Also, a lot of people commenting online that they've ordered facemasks

@PineappleDanish well said

I think NS is wonderful, but irrespective of when lockdown is lifted, there is no vaccine, no treatment and some will become very sick or die. What’s another 3 weeks, or six weeks going to do. It’s just delaying the inevitable.

Exactly ...meanwhile the economy and our livelihood is dying too

I have never been a fan, then I thought she was doing great until today when she said she won't be pushed into anything. No one is pushing her or trying to.

@PineappleDanish yes good post and I agree totally

Yes. It's all about the control though and ensuring she stands out.

Here in Argyll the largest county in UK there are only about 100 cases we are part of NHS highland and on 5th May, has about 313 cases only 12 in hospital and less than 5 in ICU, just a few miles south greater Glasgow has over 3200 cases 500+ in hopital and 32 in ICU

Argyll isn't the largest county in Scotland, let alone the U.K. And those few miles you refer to include a massive change in population, and population density (Approx 1.2 million in the Greater Glasgow area) You really can't compare the two.

The lock down needs to end now. The decision was based on a ridiculously poor forecast predicting 500,000 deaths if we didn’t lock down.
The same forecast when used by Sweden indicates they should have 40,000 deaths by now -currently they’re below 3000 with no lock down.
Prof Ferguson previously forecast BSE would kill 150,000, the reality was 200.

No.

I think more damage will be done to people's health by damaging the economy continuing lockdown than slowly starting to get people back with physical distancing instructions. She's just playing politics and screwing the economy with it. Sweden showed it can be done

Yet there was an opinion poll a couple of days ago where the majority supported extending the lockdown...,

There was no apology from her for promoting the incorrect message that PPE was being diverted to England at the expense of Scots.
She misses no opportunity to criticise UK Gov but has been happy for Scotland to have its share of UK Gov financial handouts. Would an independent Scottish Govt have been able to pay an 80% furlough rate? UK armed forces are building Nightingale Hospitals and manni g testing stations. Would the Scottish Home Guard have had enough resource? I would love to hear how she thinks Scotland would have managed on its own( sacked its own Chief Medical Officer within the first weeks of lockdown). NS is as devious and poisonous as any other politician out there, more so than many

As usual, the bullshit emanating from the OP could fertilise Lothian and Fife for a year.

I naively commented early on at the start of this thread. All I can say now is that I'm glad we've got a first minister who isn't afraid to be unpopular if that's what it takes to save lives as I really believe that if restrictions are lifted too early and too fast many lives will be lost.

@MH1111 surely you must be relieved that such a hideous number of people did not have to die because we locked down no? Imagine your outrage had we stayed open and ‘only’ 100k died, you would be incandescent with rage even though it’s still well below the 500k predicted worst case scenario.

By keeping the lockdown NS is doing the popular ‘things not taking the unpopular decision!
It’s policy by public opinion, independence ref2 needs more support.
The difficult, unpopular and right decision is to get the non vunerable and non sheltered straight back to school and work so we don’t saddle future generations with poverty and austerity which will kill hundred of thousands

Whettam,

If we had not locked down and followed Sweden’s calm and sensible social distancing approach we would not have had more deaths than if we had locked down.

They have proved the imperial college forecast to be wildly wrong - they have less than 10% of the deaths that the imperial college model predicted for sweden

We'll politely disagree MH1111.