To think Nicola Sturgeon is deluded

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... if she thinks that people who want to exercise twice a day aren’t already exercising twice a day.

And that if Boris eases lockdown restrictions on Sunday that the whole of Scotland is going to accept being trapped at home for another three weeks?

And that the shops and takeaways and other businesses that are already opening up are going to suddenly revert back to a strict lockdown?

And that the “economy can recover”?

Really?

This is a crazy agenda.

@Mascotte I have no idea and dont really care about the legal aspect. It clearly says for Scotland once a day on the .gov.scot site.

We are in the middle of a crisis, we have been asked to follow that guidance repeatedly on the Scottish updates for good reasons. That should be enough.

She is scoring points, always releases the info before England does

England are welcome to release the information anytime they want. A 7am briefing perhaps!

They choose to do it last. Stop reading the daily mail and jumping on the ‘gazumping’ bandwagon.

I wondering the OP even acknowledges her bias.

You don’t like Sturgeon. That’s clear. You therefore don’t like anything she does.

Answer me this, OP. Do you think your opinion on this is based on rational thought, or fundamental dislike from a political perspective?

I think she'll have a problem maintaining lockdown.

Which is probably why she's extended it - she's assuming that a certain percentage of people will continue to follow it, so it allows for those who'll think "fuck this" and do what they want. Better to have, say, 80% still doing as they're told than allowing easing for everyone.

Why should anyone care about any legal aspect then @WeAllHaveWings? Will you just tell us what to do?

It's the difference between doing the right thing and being twat.

i thought she was very clear and concise about why she wont be following boris-if shes deluded then they all are

The r number is higher there than it is here

The once a day exercise is legislation in Wales, is it definitely not in the Scottish legislation?

It's not in the English legislation

Not in Scottish legislation

But I am a twat for pointing that out 🙄

Point scoring. Seriously.

The fact that you think a leader would rather score one small political victory than save the lives of citizens says a lot about how deluded and jaded you are.

If you're ok with Boris choosing to let 10 of thousands of people die, grand. Maybe some of us would rather a leader made decisions that protect us, rather than we 'take it on the chin'.

whatever our politicians do, they'll be wrong.
If Boris extends lockdown, he'll be slated and accused of ruining the economy and creating an even bigger mental health crisis.
If Boris lifts the lockdown, he'll be accused of sacrificing lives for the benefit of the economy.
Cannot win. At all.

You don’t think her announcement on how terrible it was that PPE supplies stockpiled by public health England were not being sent to Scotland was not political point scoring???

OP what would your view be if she lifted lockdown early and the numbers spiked through the roof? Curious to see if you’d pass it off as ‘ah well, better luck next time’ or you would be penning a thread to show your contempt at the ‘murderous’ Sturgeon.

As for BJ lifting our lockdown, I think people are jumping the gun here, it will be VERY gradual and once the numbers start going back up then we will be rethinking the strategy. You’re very safe with NS even if some of your fellow Scots are defying the rules and playing Russian roulette with their lives and the lives of their loved ones.

Some people won't be happy until we're all placed under house arrest.

It is on the website and has been the guidance given out in the briefings so it's what everyone I know has been doing (We live near the England/Scotland border).

I find it highly interesting that people are much pickier with NS than they are with Boris or Mark Drakeford. That folks can't see through the daily fail's "woman getting out of her box" rhetoric baffles me. Especially with their "gazumping" bollocks.

I detest the woman. I can’t understand how anyone thinks she’s more diligent than Boris - she missed 6 Cobra meetings, he only missed 5, but he gets all the stick.
And the PP who thinks Sturgeon “cares deeply” about Scotland - have you seen the appalling state of her own Govanhill constituency? No sign of any improvement in the squalor and deprivation there, in the whole time she’s been responsible for it.
The only good thing about this pandemic is that it will show Scots the huge benefit of being inside the UK and bailed out by our massive financial clout and borrowing capability. Imagine how a bankrupt independent Scotland would have fared in the pandemic, with the oil price collapse to $22 a barrel, zero income from tourism, and a minuscule credit rating as a new small country, so limited ability to borrow in the international money markets.

You've only just noticed?

It’s time to balance the lives lost to COVID with the lives, and livelihoods, lost to lockdown. ........Will I tell this to my friend who has lost her husband and my neighbour who has lost his mum then ??? It’s alright for people to say this when they haven’t lost a love one or a close member of their family to this horrible disease.

If Nicola Sturgeon is listening to her scientific advisers and they are telling her to extend lockdown and she ignored them just to safe the economy and the infection/death rate went up, I’m not so sure people would be saying “oh well she had to do something to get the economy started”....no they would be criticising her and telling her to resign if that happened.

media arent helping are they with their headlines of happy monday and lockdown lifted -when noone has said anything yet

You don’t think her announcement on how terrible it was that PPE supplies stockpiled by public health England were not being sent to Scotland was not political point scoring???

That's not at all what she said though.

She said they were extremely concerned about reports that PPE for care homes was being diverted and would look into them. There were reports everywhere in Scotland that English companies who normally supplied Scottish care homes were not fulfilling orders because they were only sending to England.

She didn't accuse Public Health England of anything.

We don’t know what Boris will say yet. The Times is reporting that Lockdown will most likely last 3 more weeks, the mail seems to think we will all be released into the wild on Monday. I would guess we will probably follow Scotland’s lead as that’s what we’ve done the whole way through this.

I'm English but live in Scotland (Argyll) most people I know are following lockdown quite well
Scotland's peak is behind that of London and the numbers of deaths 7 day rolling average ( to allow for peaks and troughs @weekends) is not coming down as fast as in England and it is only this week there is a good drop in number of people in ICU
certain things in Scotland are different general health and life expectancy is a bit lower, some areas of scotland have high R values others relatively low like everywhere else in the World cases are concentrated in cities the huge rural areas of Scotland often have very few cases but when they do spring up they can be bad like the nursing home in Portree in Skye. Here in Argyll the largest county in UK there are only about 100 cases we are part of NHS highland and on 5th May, has about 313 cases only 12 in hospital and less than 5 in ICU, just a few miles south greater Glasgow has over 3200 cases 500+ in hopital and 32 in ICU
I'm not a fan of NS or the SNP but she has done OK so far but so long as being reasonable it will be OK so if England have some minor releasing of lockdown on Monday as R is close to 0.5 then she can say unfortunately R is not yet that low in Scotland and when it is I'm sure we will alos have more freedom

You don’t think her announcement on how terrible it was that PPE supplies stockpiled by public health England were not being sent to Scotland was not political point scoring???

That's not at all what she said though.
She said they were extremely concerned about reports that PPE for care homes was being diverted and would look into them.

I agree, that is not what she said in the update @Aesopfable, can you back that up with a link?

I detest the woman.

Of course you do, you're a hateful person. You'd hate her no matter what she did.