Meghan Markle story time

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Posting here for the traffic and so this is read by a diverse pool of people - not just royal fans...

I really like Meghan Markle and I admire her for carving her own way and being a feminist in her choices. I like that she waited after the birth for photos and spoke up about the metoo movement etc.

As much as I like Duchess of Cambridge, I don’t think she does anything to advance women. She seems to do what is expected of her which people love but which I find awful. She has a responsibility as a role model for young women but yet Seems to be the perfect, painfully thin, upper class wife that does as she is told, rarely speaks and is every sexist, wealthy, white man’s dream.

I’m a little lost as to why people seem to be pro Kate and anti Meghan. Is it because Kate is what all middle class women aspire to be in England. Doing as one is told ? Being a softly spoken English lady that wears tweed and frolics in the country while her husband is on a boys ski trip etc etc

Have we all forgot about feminism ?

What has Harry done to get to know the US? Or is his family/country more important than hers?

He hasn’t become a member of the (non-existent) American Royal family, has he? Or taken up any public post in the USA? Or decided to live off American public funds in any form? So what’s that got to do with anything?

You lost me and your feminist credentials by putting Kate down to praise Meghan.

Why do people have to constantly pitch the two women against each other it is tiresome.

A thousand times this. I'm so fed up of the comparisons between two very different women who came to two very different roles at very different stages in life.

They married brothers. Other than that they have little in common. The comparisons aren't just tedious and lazy, they're illogical.

Since when was marrying into the royal family a feminist act? You are beyond unreasonable OP

Claiming to be an environmentalist whilst hopping on private jets for unnecessary journeys.

Name me a celeb so-called environmentalist who hasn’t done similar. Including Will and Kate.

She seems completely disinterested in getting to know the UK, focussing instead on mingling with A-list Hollywood 'stars' and living in luxury.

Ah that word ‘seems’, always translates as ’I have no bases for this, so I’ll just project my own feelings’. Again, I don’t see that Will and Kate have ‘common folk’ in their ‘mingling group’, or not living in luxury.

spending hundreds of thousands on couture, attending film awards and fawning over celebrities that wouldn't have given her the time of day before.

I won’t repeat myself, see above.

Her obsession with 'privacy' has come across as an attention seeking power play, withholding information that isn't even personal e.g. Archies godparents. It is seen as a snub to the public that fund her lifestyle.

Would you share all this type of information with anyone who demanded it? The unknown CEO of the company that pays you, just because they give you a pay check? Why would one need to know who her child’s godparents are, how is that in anyway valuable information to anyone (bar another reason to judge her for obvious choosing the wrong ones). We don’t own the woman or her child just because she married Harry. Her private information isn’t due to us by proxy. I can see exactly why she decided to do that, it would just be another piece of information about her that the public ‘owned’, and by this point they used everything they could against her. Of course it backfired, by not announcing it she was an awful person anyway.

@slashlover

Se gave up her job = bad feminist/living off tax money. (and when did being a SAHM mother mean you weren't a feminist?). She now wants to work and has done a voice over for a movie = using the RF for fame. Is she to work or not?

I don't know if you have noticed but most SAHMs didn't give up their careers to marry a Prince and live off millions of pounds of public money. How is that feminism?

What has Harry done to get to know the US? Or is his family/country more important than hers? By 'mingling with A-List Hollywood' do you mean not dumping her friends when she got married? Have you seen how much the rest of the women in the RF spend on clothes?

I don't know if you have noticed but Harry isn't a Prince of the USA. Her duty to get to know the country was because she was marrying into its royal family, not just because Harry is British. Why should we fund her lifestyle when she couldn't care less about the UK? As for the clothes, yes I have, see my first post.

It's nobodys business but theirs. Just because of Harry's accident of birth, the public have no right to know everything about their baby.

Er, yes they do, that is why that 'accident at birth' means they can live a millionaires lifestyle courtesy of the public.

and yes they have left but they continue to put themselves (and Archie) in the public eye. Therefore we are entitled to critique them.

The British royal family is seen by certain members of society as a pure bloodline. Meghan is not only American but African American not to mention an actress and sadly I think that bothers a lot of these people. I don’t believe she could do anything right in their eyes.

The DM was obsessed with Kate being from a poor background (although wealthy parents) and were quite critical of her before someone ‘worse’ came along.

The thinly vailed racism in the Nazi rag the daily hate is appalling and makes me sick to my stomach.
The only evidence we have that she is difficult is from her nutjob of a family and some royal ‘observers’. Every thing she does in public makes her seem decent. Yet everything she does is twisted to a negative. I feel deeply sorry for her. Maybe she is a nightmare but we will never know. So can only judge on actions.
I don’t mind Kate she is doing her thing as she likes but I agree she’s no feminist icon.

Oh, I was really hoping this might just be a nice chat about the story video. Silly me.

@MouthBreathingRage are you kidding?
Kate was hounded in the press for years and years! They tore her apart and tried to make her a laughing stock, they called her “waity Katy” because William had been dating her so long, they speculated she had bulimia like Diana and photographed her eating constantly, they called her family common etc etc etc.

However, the difference is Kate didn’t throw a toddler tantrum about it all and took the advice of senior royals and their advisors and handled the while debacle with dignity.

That’s why people have more respect for her than Meghan.

Also Meghan has made public comments about wanting to shake up the monarchy and attempting to get them to bend to her wants. I think it riled a lot of Brits that an American thought she knew better.
There were oodles of examples on her social media accounts of these statements and implied virtuousness.

I certainly don’t dislike her because her mother is black, or because she’s mixed race. I’m not racist. I simply don’t like her and how she has presented herself.

In fact, sadly her beautiful appearance seems to be one of her only saving graces!

She’s the absolute opposite of a feminist. Neither is she a humanitarian.

Her obsession with 'privacy' has come across as an attention seeking power play, withholding information that isn't even personal e.g. Archies godparents.

I shouldn't get drawn in, but anyway... I never understand this criticism of them. I just assumed at least one of the godparents didn't want the attention. I know if I were asked to be godparent for any of those children I'd turn it down because I'm an atheist who's never met the parents I wouldn't want my outfit, weight, hair etc picked over in the press and online.

It wouldn't surprise me at all if she had a close friend who felt similarly, which would also explain the seeming lack of friends at the wedding - put the non showbiz friends who don't want the attention down the back out of the limelight, and let the ones who can spend thousands on an outfit and have experience with the press sit up front and draw the attention away.

Maybe it's not that at all (and I don't really care tbh), but it's always seemed the most likely explanation to me.

@Wolfgirrl, what exactly did Meghan have to do to show people like yourself she was fully immersing herself in Britishness? Only be photographed eating fish and chips? Borrow Ginger Spice’s union flag dress, get married and conceived her child in it? Do 5 years military service for the British Forces, being photographed avoiding land mines all doe-eyed?

However, the difference is Kate didn’t throw a toddler tantrum about it all and took the advice of senior royals and their advisors and handled the while debacle with dignity.

That’s why people have more respect for her than Meghan.

Because Meghan is a strong individual she chose to make a stand against the press attacks and why not??! Why should anyone lie down and take the disgusting thrashing dished out by these rags?
Meghan made a stand and Harry stood by her. I'd imagine the last thing they want is another Diana outcome.

I have respect for Meghan for standing up to bullies. In the end she can't win and it has all been twisted but hats off to her, she takes no shit.

However, the difference is Kate didn’t throw a toddler tantrum about it all and took the advice of senior royals and their advisors and handled the while debacle with dignity.

I mean, there’s a million things I could say here. All will say is that Kate seems to have been preparing herself for this life since before Meghan possibly even saw the lights of Hollywood. I’m sure Kate has achieved a lot of what she set out to, even with the glare of the media so fiercely on her. You have to admire such tenacity.

Ingratitude: not acknowledging the huge privileges they got, nor the support from the public on their marriage, focusing only on what they didn’t like.

I know not everyone will agree with me on this but I thought their refusal to do a photoshoot when Archie was born was pretty churlish.

Immaturity: first of all I think it’s immature to expect everything to go your way at work and with your in-laws.

Secondly, Meghan wasn’t a sheltered 20 yo like Di, she & Harry are both in their 30s and knew how the press and the RF treated women marrying in. I know Meghan pretended not to know who Harry was, but she could have thought a bit about what she was getting into - the examples were all there to see: Diana, Fergie, Sophie, Camilla, Kate. None treated well by the press and none given overt support from the RF against the press.

Petulance: it seems that when they didn’t get what they wanted they had a tantrum and ran away, from their work, from Harry’s family and country.

Insulting the Queen: okay, insulting is a strong word. But I think how they have behaved is rude. Their new book being called ‘Finding Freedom’ implies that being in the RF and the U.K. was like being in prison.

Honestly though, if they had changed their roles carefully or gone away quietly I think there would be a lot of sympathy for them - I could see Harry doing mainly stuff with children in Africa, or with ex-servicemen - they have squandered their privilege and a lot of goodwill - it’s really sad.

@mouthbreathingrage you're being silly now. Me personally, nothing, I'm a republican and want to see the lot of them sacked. Doesn't mean I can't objectively critique them.

Engagements getting to know the actual public would have helped. Visiting hospitals, care homes, schools, job centres. In further corners of the country so she could get to know the country outside the London bubble. But she only wanted staged 'meetings' with charity bosses, awards events, magazine editing and photo shoots. Stuff to further her celebrity humanitarian image basically.

As for her A-list 'friends' show me one photo of her with the Clooneys, Elton John or Serena before she met Harry. They're only interested in her because of her royal connections, and she is shallow enough to go along with it.

Maybe the royalists can correct me if I'm wrong?

However, the difference is Kate didn’t throw a toddler tantrum about it all and took the advice of senior royals and their advisors and handled the while debacle with dignity.

I will NEVER understand why putting up with the media printing lies and vile bullying is interpreted as ‘dignity’ by some people.

What the actual fuck is wrong with you?

Why should anyone lie down and take the disgusting thrashing dished out by these rags?

I know right, it’s appalling.

But it’s almost like in marrying in the British public thought they owned her. She was supposed to take all the shit because she’s nothing put a plaything for the gutter press and the gormless twats who swallow it.

www.essentiallysports.com/all-you-need-to-know-about-the-friendship-of-serena-williams-and-meghan-markle-wta-tennis-news/

An extremely quick google of Meghan and Serena shows they have been friends for 10 years. How bloody easy is that.

In further corners of the country so she could get to know the country outside the London bubble.

Are you saying she never left London the whole time she lived in the UK? Now you’re being silly.

But she only wanted staged 'meetings' with charity bosses, awards events, magazine editing and photo shoots.

Where is your evidence of this, and how is anything else other royals do any different?

People who obsess who kate or meghan need to get lives.

I hate feministic posts, I hate all it stands for,
Women who call themselves feminists are usually angry, over opinionated and loud,Every dispute they have is turned around as an attack on women,Yes I respect all before us who fought for equal rights but God give it a rest now, I'm a woman and I do and say as I want, when I want, please stop the ridiculous feministic posts, it's beyond boring by now, I stumbled accross a feminism section here recently, a whole section and my God I couldnt get off it fast enough, thank the Lord that I don't have these type of people to listen to in real life

@mouthbreathingrage

Very apt username by the way.

Are you saying she never left London the whole time she lived in the UK? Now you’re being silly.

I'm sorry when did I say that?

Where is your evidence of this, and how is anything else other royals do any different?

From the engagements she did. The other royals are useless as well, they all settle for the easy 'work' of tweeting and taking photos of their kids.

As for Serena that is when they met but is there any evidence of an actual friendship?

I know not everyone will agree with me on this but I thought their refusal to do a photoshoot when Archie was born was pretty churlish.

They did a photo shoot, there were photos. Do you mean standing in a pretty dress outside the hospital hours after giving birth?

Immaturity: first of all I think it’s immature to expect everything to go your way at work and with your in-laws.

Again, Who said she did? Why should they put up with things they aren't happy with?

Secondly, Meghan wasn’t a sheltered 20 yo like Di, she & Harry are both in their 30s and knew how the press and the RF treated women marrying in. I know Meghan pretended not to know who Harry was, but she could have thought a bit about what she was getting into - the examples were all there to see: Diana, Fergie, Sophie, Camilla, Kate. None treated well by the press and none given overt support from the RF against the press.

So she should put up and shut up?

Petulance: it seems that when they didn’t get what they wanted they had a tantrum and ran away, from their work, from Harry’s family and country.

They ran away? Or did they leave the country to avoid the barrage of abuse? Again, should they have just accepted the harassment from the newspapers? They moved from Harry's family to be closer to her family.

Insulting the Queen: okay, insulting is a strong word. But I think how they have behaved is rude. Their new book being called ‘Finding Freedom’ implies that being in the RF and the U.K. was like being in prison.

No privacy, strict rules where you get punished for breaking them, everything you do being watched, no freedom.

Honestly though, if they had changed their roles carefully or gone away quietly I think there would be a lot of sympathy for them - I could see Harry doing mainly stuff with children in Africa, or with ex-servicemen - they have squandered their privilege and a lot of goodwill - it’s really sad.

Nope. There is nothing she could do, there were MANY examples where they did the EXACT same thing as William and/or Catherine but were treated completely differently by the media.

LOL

I don't know why Meghan gets a bashing all the time. I don't feel Kate deserves a bashing either. Both roles they have differ but are equally valid-be it actress, media personality or stay at home parent.

I am, by no means, a royalist but the continual criticising of these women and what they do is shit!