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Should I be worried about husband's colleague?

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Smm7 · 01/05/2020 11:55

Hi mums
This is my first time posting but I feel like I'm going out of my mind and I really need some advice please. My husband and I have been together for almost 15 years, and we've had our ups and downs like normal couples but mostly things have always been great. He's a good man, he's always treated me well, supportive both emotionally and financially, and is an amazing father to our children. However, he's developed a really close friendship with a woman he works with and I'm not sure if I should be worried or if I'm overreacting. To give you some back story, I became aware of this woman last year when my husband took our little girl to his office and she came back talking about this woman and how she's daddy's best friend. She's young, single and very pretty. Her name has popped up a few times since then and I've always had a bit of an off feeling about their friendship, but I put it down to my own insecurity. When the lockdown started, both my husband and I had to start working from home and he would spend hours every day speaking to her on the phone- they would call each other constantly throughout the day and it was rarely ever work related. His voice always changed when he spoke to her. He'd speak a lot more quietly, and would sound really flirty and giggled constantly. I'd hear him telling her non-work related things that he hadn't told me about. I felt hurt because it got to the point where he barely said a word to me but would be talking to her all day. Eventually I got really upset and told him how I felt. He reassured me she was just a friend but that he would tone it down. That didn't happen, he just got more secretive about talking to her. One day he went out in the garden to work, and when I went outside he was on his webcam with her. They also continued to have their hours-long conversations but he got sneaky about it. He'd close the door thinking I wouldn't be able to hear, and hide her name on his screen (his work calls come through his laptop and the name displays on the screen). The secrecy of it made me paranoid that there really was something to worry about. Again, after one too many calls listening to them giggling and teasing each other, I got upset but this this time I flipped out and said if we weren't in lockdown I'd be packing my bags (maybe an overreaction). This time he got upset and said there was absolutely nothing going on, he loved me, she was just a good friend etc etc. The next morning he was very loving, constantly reassuring me, apologising that he'd been neglecting me. For a while things got better. He still spoke to her on the phone, but not nearly as much and I started to feel better, until one day I saw Facebook messages from her popping up on his phone. It was a Sunday so I felt a bit pissed off that she was encroaching on our time away from work but I tried not to get upset about it. I know it's bad but I thought I could go on his tablet and look at the messages she'd sent him. However, he has deleted the Facebook app off his tablet. Then last week he got a new phone and has now changed the pin number he has always used (I know at this point I sound like a jealous, paranoid wife but I absolutely swear I never normally check his phone/tablet- I only knew his pin number because it's the same one we use for all our devices. Before all this I completely trusted him and felt no need to check up on him). The other night I saw Facebook messages flashing up from her again and I got cross. He was annoyed and acted like I was being unreasonable, saying he only messaged her 'occasionally' so I apologised and said I didn't want him to end his friendship with her, it's my problem and I need to learn to deal with it and stop being jealous. Last night I managed to get into his Facebook account on his old phone (he doesn't know I did this. He'd deleted the app but when I downloaded it again, the login information had been saved). I read all the messages, even though it took me a couple of hours (there were that many). At first I felt reassured as there was nothing to suggest they've had any kind of inappropriate contact. However, the sheer volume of messages is unbelievable. I'm lucky to get a reply when I message him, but for the past couple of months, they've literally messaged each other from first thing in the morning to late into the night, all day every day (so much for toning it down- he's just got another way to contact her). The messages were pretty much daily before that, although there weren't as many. She sends him selfies (again, nothing inappropriate but wtf is she sending my husband photos of herself?). There are messages from him late at night asking if she's out (I assume those are from when he's been on nights out and wants to meet her). There was one night when he and I were both out with our friends separately and had arranged to meet later in the evening. There are messages to her that night asking if she was out, while at the same time he was also messaging me arranging when/where we were going to meet (I'm assuming he was trying to find out if he could meet up with her first). He talks to her about pretty much every aspect of his personal life, telling her all kinds of silly little things- the kids, his hobbies, friends of his she hasn't even met, funny things that have happened in his day etc but he never mentions me at all. There's lots of teasing each other, some mild sexual banter although nothing terrible and not about each other. He teases her about how many admirers she has at work, how many of the guys (and girls apparently) fancy her. There are messages asking her if she wants to go to gigs (this is really hurtful as he goes to lots of gigs but rarely asks me to go). One of the gigs he asked her to go to was one I'd told him about but he didn't invite me to go. He sends her cute animal memes and videos. If I send him something funny, he never responds but he has forwarded loads of the stuff I've sent him to her (no personal messages, just funny memes and videos I've sent him). I don't know if I'm being petty but I'm just so hurt by it. I've never contacted any of my close friends nearly to the extent that he contacts her, and they only met each other last year! I do believe nothing physical has happened between them as I think it's impossible to message each other so much without making any reference to it, but I can't help but think there are definitely feelings there. I'm going out of my mind with anxiety and today I feel so low. I just want to get away and try to get my head together but obviously with the lockdown, that's not possible. Am I overreacting and being paranoid? Or am I right to be hurt? I honestly don't know what to think right now, my head is all over the place. I feel like this is all I think about now and I just want to be happy again 😔

OP posts:
Washyourhandsyoufilthyanimal · 01/05/2020 12:41

Emotional affair. Confront him, own up to snooping and talk to him about this.

Confuzzled123 · 01/05/2020 12:41

Crikey, there is no way that I would tolerate this from my partner.

He’s totally disregarding your feelings. My general rule of thumb is how does he behave with his male
friends and how does this compare?Does he text his male friends with cute pictures? Do his male friends send him selfies?

I bet not. Also, it’s just so cliched isn’t it? I say this over and over again but these new ‘friends’ are never 65 year old Derek from accounts are they?

Kick him out.

Onone · 01/05/2020 12:43

Emotional affairs are just as bad,he should be texting and talking to you all day!..

HyggeHeart · 01/05/2020 12:43

Whether anything physical has actually happened or not he is investing far more time and emotional energy into his relationship with her than into you and your family. That's unacceptable and incredibly hurtful and you have every reason to be upset, dont let him convince you otherwise.

Mallysmomma · 01/05/2020 12:45

He’s having an emotional affair that much is clear. He needs to be prioritising you and your marriage but seeing as after you told him how much it was hurting you and he still continued to message her in secret shows that their relationship (albeit possibly not a physical one) is more important to him. I think you know the truth already; you just need time to process and decide on the next step. So sorry this is happening. Sending virtual hugs. Xx

SerenDippitty · 01/05/2020 12:50

Yes emotional affair. How would he feel if you were behaving like this with a young attractive male colleague?

SerenDippitty · 01/05/2020 12:50

And who the hell thinks YABU?

lockdownlowdown · 01/05/2020 12:51

Omg you are far from over reacting here. He's is so far over the line it's unreal. Also not impressed with this woman who knows he had a wife and child. Are you in a position to kick him out? How awful this is for you. I'm so sorry

PeanutDouglas · 01/05/2020 12:51

He’s involved in an emotional affair. I’m sorry OP. He may not realise this of course, but he is.

You need to lay down the law. Tell him what it is and what you need him to do. Tell him you’re hurt. Tell him he can only speak to her about work and nothing else.

smellingofroses · 01/05/2020 12:53

He treating her and replying to her like she's the wife, he treating you and replying to you like your an inconvenience, he's putting the relationship he has with her over the one he has with you.
You asked him to stop and he didn't, you then asked him to stop again and told him how's it's making you feel and he still hasn't stopped.
I agree with above poster that a 15 year relationship isn't something to throw away ( even though that's what he's doing ) and I appreciate that it's difficult to even think about untangling your life from his so sit him down and explain he's on his last strike ( the other two were you asking him to stop) and unless he stops this affair that he's having ( make no mistake it is an affair ) you will be asking him to leave, his reaction will tell you everything you need to know !
Good luck I've been through this myself so I know that sick feeling you have in your stomach right now and it's just awful.

Winterwoollies · 01/05/2020 12:55

He is balls-deep in an emotional affair. I’m so sorry, OP.

Timeslikethese2020 · 01/05/2020 12:55

Way over the top. At the very least, there is an affair brewing. Worse than that is his treatment of you, ignoring you and acting like she is more important than you.

1forAll74 · 01/05/2020 13:01

Yes, some kind of cheating going on, and seems to be developing more.It's despicable behaviour from your Husband.He seems to have no morals, just a man who can lie, and who has no respect for you, and just living in his own exciting,and phoney little world.

1forAll74 · 01/05/2020 13:02

woops, despicable.

Hidingtonothing · 01/05/2020 13:03

It's a hard lesson to learn but the first thing you need to do is accept that he has changed what you and he had forever, whatever happens now he has damaged something fundamental in your relationship and there is no going back from that, only forward, I say that because I don't want you to waste time and energy trying to get back to where you were, I know how upsetting it is but whatever comes next will be easier on you if you can be honest with yourself about where you are.

He's checked out, all his attention is on her and you are being sidelined. No one can tell you whether it's physical, whether it's going anywhere, whether it's even reciprocated in any serious way on her part or just an ego boost for her, whether he would choose her if he had the choice. We don't know, but what we do know is that emotional affairs do easily as much damage as physical ones and are just as much of a betrayal. Even if he 'came to his senses' now and stopped all contact with her you will still know what he's done and you have to be realistic about whether that damage can be repaired.

It's time for some real soul searching OP, about what you want. You have to be your own sole focus now, don't look at this in terms of his feelings or reasoning, only your own matter while you're deciding what you want to happen next. He has effectively cheated, regardless of his 'just a friend' protests and now you have to decide whether that crosses your red line or not.

He will argue the 'just friends' thing til he's blue in the face, don't entertain it for a second. The tone, frequency and level of intimacy is massively inappropriate for a married person, especially as it's clearly having a detrimental effect on his marriage so don't let him gaslight you that there's anything 'normal' about it, there really isn't.

But figuring out what you want is the first thing you need to do. Can you forgive this kind of betrayal? Do you want to? What would you need from him if you want to try to move past it? Get your head straight and figure out what you want before you speak to him then get it all out in the open, stewing on it will do you no good Flowers

MashedPotatoBrainz · 01/05/2020 13:04

You are not overreacting, quite the opposite. Your husband is having an affair right under your nose and has got YOU apologising for it.

Fluffybutter · 01/05/2020 13:05

That’s not on .
If it was me I would tell him enough is enough and how would he feel if it was the other way round ?
This isn’t right at all, it’s bloody disrespectful even if the messages aren’t sexual

Pannacottaformeplease · 01/05/2020 13:06

I feel so angry on your behalf. I can't believe he doesn't reply to the things you send him but then forwards them to her. And as for her sending him selfies! Show him the door.

GabsAlot · 01/05/2020 13:08

Nah not right the amount he messages her-its fine to have friends of opposite sex but he doesnt reply to you his own wife and messages her all day every day

its an emotional affair

Ughmaybenot · 01/05/2020 13:09

You’re underreacting quite significantly I would say. He’s having an emotional affair and literally doesn’t care enough about you, your feelings and your marriage to try to hide it, let alone have any sense of moral direction and not have a bloody affair in the first place!

Pinksmyfavoritecolour · 01/05/2020 13:11

Bugger that, he’s being disloyal and hurtful to you, he’s giving her the attention and time he should be giving you. Friends is one thing, the odd text or silly WhatsApp meme, but all day, and hour long conversations, when you don’t get the same or more, is a definite no no. Realise your own worth, you deserve more than to be second best.

LadyLuna16 · 01/05/2020 13:11

You are not over reacting. I felt so sad for you reading this. All your instincts are telling you this isn’t ok, but you are trying to over ride that and trying to somehow place the blame on yourself.

You get to decide what is ok for you in your marriage. It sounds very much like this is not ok for you, but you are fearful that he won’t stop contacting her so you are tying yourself in knots trying to justify it.

I am so sorry. He is being truly awful, disloyal and entirely inappropriate. If my husband did this I would end it.

NoMoreDickheads · 01/05/2020 13:11

I know it'd be hard to defend as there's nothing actually sexual/overtly flirty going on, but I'd be the same, I wouldn't feel comfortable with that.

And it's worse in that you already told him that and he said he would tone it down, but he's gone back to it, plus sneakily found another way to message her.

They are acting like they fancy each other IMO, and even if that isn't so, if I were his wife I would feel uncomfortable.

lottieloop · 01/05/2020 13:11

That's terrible, I can only imagine how hurt I would feel if I was in your shoes.

The secretiveness off it all speaks volumes. All this time he is allowing you to take the blame for being paranoid & jealous ... no wonder Hmm

Sorry OP, it would be the end of the relationship for me,

Keeva2017 · 01/05/2020 13:15

This is cheating. There may not be sex but in every other aspect he is having the relationship with her he should be having with you. He knows it, she knows it.

Do not let him minimise this. Bastard.