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Should I be worried about husband's colleague?

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Smm7 · 01/05/2020 11:55

Hi mums
This is my first time posting but I feel like I'm going out of my mind and I really need some advice please. My husband and I have been together for almost 15 years, and we've had our ups and downs like normal couples but mostly things have always been great. He's a good man, he's always treated me well, supportive both emotionally and financially, and is an amazing father to our children. However, he's developed a really close friendship with a woman he works with and I'm not sure if I should be worried or if I'm overreacting. To give you some back story, I became aware of this woman last year when my husband took our little girl to his office and she came back talking about this woman and how she's daddy's best friend. She's young, single and very pretty. Her name has popped up a few times since then and I've always had a bit of an off feeling about their friendship, but I put it down to my own insecurity. When the lockdown started, both my husband and I had to start working from home and he would spend hours every day speaking to her on the phone- they would call each other constantly throughout the day and it was rarely ever work related. His voice always changed when he spoke to her. He'd speak a lot more quietly, and would sound really flirty and giggled constantly. I'd hear him telling her non-work related things that he hadn't told me about. I felt hurt because it got to the point where he barely said a word to me but would be talking to her all day. Eventually I got really upset and told him how I felt. He reassured me she was just a friend but that he would tone it down. That didn't happen, he just got more secretive about talking to her. One day he went out in the garden to work, and when I went outside he was on his webcam with her. They also continued to have their hours-long conversations but he got sneaky about it. He'd close the door thinking I wouldn't be able to hear, and hide her name on his screen (his work calls come through his laptop and the name displays on the screen). The secrecy of it made me paranoid that there really was something to worry about. Again, after one too many calls listening to them giggling and teasing each other, I got upset but this this time I flipped out and said if we weren't in lockdown I'd be packing my bags (maybe an overreaction). This time he got upset and said there was absolutely nothing going on, he loved me, she was just a good friend etc etc. The next morning he was very loving, constantly reassuring me, apologising that he'd been neglecting me. For a while things got better. He still spoke to her on the phone, but not nearly as much and I started to feel better, until one day I saw Facebook messages from her popping up on his phone. It was a Sunday so I felt a bit pissed off that she was encroaching on our time away from work but I tried not to get upset about it. I know it's bad but I thought I could go on his tablet and look at the messages she'd sent him. However, he has deleted the Facebook app off his tablet. Then last week he got a new phone and has now changed the pin number he has always used (I know at this point I sound like a jealous, paranoid wife but I absolutely swear I never normally check his phone/tablet- I only knew his pin number because it's the same one we use for all our devices. Before all this I completely trusted him and felt no need to check up on him). The other night I saw Facebook messages flashing up from her again and I got cross. He was annoyed and acted like I was being unreasonable, saying he only messaged her 'occasionally' so I apologised and said I didn't want him to end his friendship with her, it's my problem and I need to learn to deal with it and stop being jealous. Last night I managed to get into his Facebook account on his old phone (he doesn't know I did this. He'd deleted the app but when I downloaded it again, the login information had been saved). I read all the messages, even though it took me a couple of hours (there were that many). At first I felt reassured as there was nothing to suggest they've had any kind of inappropriate contact. However, the sheer volume of messages is unbelievable. I'm lucky to get a reply when I message him, but for the past couple of months, they've literally messaged each other from first thing in the morning to late into the night, all day every day (so much for toning it down- he's just got another way to contact her). The messages were pretty much daily before that, although there weren't as many. She sends him selfies (again, nothing inappropriate but wtf is she sending my husband photos of herself?). There are messages from him late at night asking if she's out (I assume those are from when he's been on nights out and wants to meet her). There was one night when he and I were both out with our friends separately and had arranged to meet later in the evening. There are messages to her that night asking if she was out, while at the same time he was also messaging me arranging when/where we were going to meet (I'm assuming he was trying to find out if he could meet up with her first). He talks to her about pretty much every aspect of his personal life, telling her all kinds of silly little things- the kids, his hobbies, friends of his she hasn't even met, funny things that have happened in his day etc but he never mentions me at all. There's lots of teasing each other, some mild sexual banter although nothing terrible and not about each other. He teases her about how many admirers she has at work, how many of the guys (and girls apparently) fancy her. There are messages asking her if she wants to go to gigs (this is really hurtful as he goes to lots of gigs but rarely asks me to go). One of the gigs he asked her to go to was one I'd told him about but he didn't invite me to go. He sends her cute animal memes and videos. If I send him something funny, he never responds but he has forwarded loads of the stuff I've sent him to her (no personal messages, just funny memes and videos I've sent him). I don't know if I'm being petty but I'm just so hurt by it. I've never contacted any of my close friends nearly to the extent that he contacts her, and they only met each other last year! I do believe nothing physical has happened between them as I think it's impossible to message each other so much without making any reference to it, but I can't help but think there are definitely feelings there. I'm going out of my mind with anxiety and today I feel so low. I just want to get away and try to get my head together but obviously with the lockdown, that's not possible. Am I overreacting and being paranoid? Or am I right to be hurt? I honestly don't know what to think right now, my head is all over the place. I feel like this is all I think about now and I just want to be happy again 😔

OP posts:
Franticbutterfly · 01/05/2020 14:42

@poppi89

There's a difference between a casual chat with a friend and hours of secret conversations. I too have male friends, and I would never say anything to him that I wouldn't be happy for both my husband and his wife to hear.

myrtletheturtle45 · 01/05/2020 14:43

I'm sorry op but it doesn't sound good :(

Even if there isn't anything incriminating in the messages the sheer amount of time he is dedicating to their 'friendship' is not right. That's time he could be spending with your or the kids. I wouldn't be happy with the secrecy either.

I'm not sure if there's an affair happening but he is clearly investing way too much time in her and also ignoring your wishes and feelings. I would be laying down the law once more and failing that it would be game over for me. I'm so sorry you're going through this.

Jaxhog · 01/05/2020 14:45

It may not be a physical affair, but it is certainly an emotional affair. Both are cheating on you. If he's being secretive about it, then he already knows he's cheating you. I'm so sorry.

You've got two choices:

  1. Ignore it and hope it peters out, knowing that it may turn into a physical affair.
  2. Give him an ultimatum. Either he stops contacting her completely and shows you his phone etc. every day to prove it, or he leaves.

Good luck!

localbunny · 01/05/2020 14:46

@lockdownlowdown yes, I am literally aghast.

Theeighthelephant · 01/05/2020 14:50

In my religion, men don't have female friends and Visa versa. Ans your husband has just shown why.

@Hanamuslim
Lol wtf. You can have opposite sex friends without acting like OP's husband.

NameCalling · 01/05/2020 14:51

Why is she sending your husband selfies?? Awful behaviour, from them both!

ilovemyrednosedaymug · 01/05/2020 15:02

OP, YANBU and he is gaslighting you into thinking that you are being paranoid and unreasonable. My ex friend did that to her husband whilst sending chat and pics to other men....

My XH crossed the line into an emotional affair, all contact was kept secret and played down when discovered, claiming that they were just friends etc. He messaged her all day and all night long and they sent each other supportive messages and photos etc. He is married to her now.

Your H has crossed the line into unacceptable and if he was trying to meet up with her, then it's only going to go one way.

I would ask him to leave. There are empty houses out there for rent, despite lockdown and people are allowed to move into empty houses. Tell him that you will not accept his behaviour any longer and that the level of contact is unprofessional and unacceptable in a marriage.

DeRigueurMortis · 01/05/2020 15:04

He's having an affair.

It doesn't matter that it my not be physical yet because it's obvious he wants it to be.

He's sidelining you, lying to you and gaslighting you. Treating you with utter contempt.

He gives not one shiny shit for you - all he cares about is this relationship.

I couldn't forgive this - he had the opportunity to stop this and instead put more effort into hiding it and messing with your head OP.

I'd pack his bags and call a solicitor ASAP.

He is a total shit.

tartanbow · 01/05/2020 15:05

ooh yeah I'm sorry I know its horrible for your self esteem but he fancies her. I have a couple of Male best friends and although we talk regularly (couple times a week) it is often just old photos that have come up on fb memories and our families (partners included). certainly not the level you describe here and we have been friends for over a decade. I wonder how he would feel the other way round

Queenjam · 01/05/2020 15:08

It is an emotional affair but he wants.it to be more. So sorry for you OP. Pack his bags and put them at the door. This will either end things or make him wake up cut all contact and change jobs. No other options.

SodaSloth · 01/05/2020 15:09

Your title should be should I be worried about my husband. If there's anything going on he's to blame, he's married. His colleague isn't blameless if she knows he's married /in a relationship but ultimately it's him

ILuvQuarintinis · 01/05/2020 15:10

He's taking her into his( and your !) life by all the chat about the family except you - he's a cock !

Jayaywhynot · 01/05/2020 15:16

He is having an emotional affair & putting your feelings aside, lying to you while he chats and messages some woman from work then he is gaslighting you and you're apologising but now you know the extent of the messaging, you know hes lying, your instincts made you suspicious in the first place. I wouldn't put up with it, you know as well as we all do that he is flirting, hes attempting to meet up with her on nights out and if he hasn't already he will sleep with her when he gets the chance, her your ducks in a row and sort him out, sling him out, short sharp shock is needed but you will never be able to trust him again. I'm sorry this has happened to you Flowers

GetOffTheTableMabel · 01/05/2020 15:25

It’s no wonder he doesn’t tell you the important detail in his life - he doesn’t need to. He’s got her.
You are no longer the most important person in his emotional life. She is. It doesn’t matter whether that’s also true for her. It’s true for him.
There’s barely any room left for you at all. You’re just the person he lives with.

Poppinjay · 01/05/2020 15:26

You tell him about gigs and he invites her to them?

You need to end it. Sorry.

littlejalapeno · 01/05/2020 15:34

I’m so sorry you’re in this situation. Time for some honest conversations. I hope he manages to get his head out his arse.

wheretonow123 · 01/05/2020 15:35

Yes, all I can say is to get your facts written down. Perhaps timelines and details of contact and sequence of changing to different modes of contact.

For when you tell him what you know and his denials it will be harder for him to deny and talk you down blind alleys.

That level of contact is incredible.

GoodDogBellaBoo · 01/05/2020 15:38

He sounds obsessed with her. I’d leave.

Kraejka · 01/05/2020 15:38

Emotional affair.
Kick him out. Don't put up with this shit.
This will have been going on for a long time, you've just become more aware of it because of lockdown and the pair of them are not able to meet at work in person. Who knows what he gets up to when he's actually at work.

Kisskiss · 01/05/2020 15:40

There’s a lot there that sounds way OTT. If he really believes she’s just his friebd then he’s treading in dangerous territory .. he’s allowing himself to get very close to someone unnecessarily

underthelights · 01/05/2020 15:45

This is awful I'm so sorry OP.

YANBU your husband is a gas lighting douche bag. His "friend" needs to find herself a boyfriend and stop messaging a married man ffs. Sending selfies WTF?

This is not your fault, don't listen to his bullshit. Gather evidence if you haven't already and give him an ultimatum.

You have every right to feel hurt, betrayed. The giggling and teasing would make my skin crawl.

The secrecy, the lies. If you do forgive him and your marriage survives you will be suspicious of him for the rest of your married life.

Ilovecats23 · 01/05/2020 15:45

I don’t think he’s having a physical affair, yet, but it sounds like he’s having an emotional affair.
Honestly he might not even realise he’s doing it, he may think because he’s not having a physical relationship with her and she’s just a ‘best friend’ that it’s totally fine. But when you’ve said you’re not happy or comfortable he should be trying his best to change the situation and make sure you’re happy, not hiding it.
I have a feeling that if left to it they might progress into and affair but honestly it might not, he may genuinely only think of her as a really close friend... but you need to decide whether you’re okay with that, and with the fact that he doesn’t seem to care how it makes you feel.
I’m really so sorry!

BreatheAndFocus · 01/05/2020 15:46

Don’t let on to him that you suspect anything. Get as much evidence as you can first. I’d be tempted to speak to her too. I know the MN way isn’t to do that but I regret not doing that to my ex’s female colleague. She was ‘just a friend’ too. Not.

YADNBU. He’s besotted and having an emotional affair minimum.

BlackSwan · 01/05/2020 15:46

You don't need evidence of an affair to leave him. If he hasn't slept with her yet, he's about to. Show yourself more respect than he is showing you and tell him in no uncertain terms that it is OVER. Lockdown or not.

PicklePig31 · 01/05/2020 15:46

I hate to say this, but I think he would jump at the chance if she gave him any indication she wanted more. The only reason why he isn’t doing anything is because she doesn’t want it.

He’s emotionally cheating on you. You’ve asked him time and time again to not behave like this. Pack his bags.