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Should I be worried about husband's colleague?

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Smm7 · 01/05/2020 11:55

Hi mums
This is my first time posting but I feel like I'm going out of my mind and I really need some advice please. My husband and I have been together for almost 15 years, and we've had our ups and downs like normal couples but mostly things have always been great. He's a good man, he's always treated me well, supportive both emotionally and financially, and is an amazing father to our children. However, he's developed a really close friendship with a woman he works with and I'm not sure if I should be worried or if I'm overreacting. To give you some back story, I became aware of this woman last year when my husband took our little girl to his office and she came back talking about this woman and how she's daddy's best friend. She's young, single and very pretty. Her name has popped up a few times since then and I've always had a bit of an off feeling about their friendship, but I put it down to my own insecurity. When the lockdown started, both my husband and I had to start working from home and he would spend hours every day speaking to her on the phone- they would call each other constantly throughout the day and it was rarely ever work related. His voice always changed when he spoke to her. He'd speak a lot more quietly, and would sound really flirty and giggled constantly. I'd hear him telling her non-work related things that he hadn't told me about. I felt hurt because it got to the point where he barely said a word to me but would be talking to her all day. Eventually I got really upset and told him how I felt. He reassured me she was just a friend but that he would tone it down. That didn't happen, he just got more secretive about talking to her. One day he went out in the garden to work, and when I went outside he was on his webcam with her. They also continued to have their hours-long conversations but he got sneaky about it. He'd close the door thinking I wouldn't be able to hear, and hide her name on his screen (his work calls come through his laptop and the name displays on the screen). The secrecy of it made me paranoid that there really was something to worry about. Again, after one too many calls listening to them giggling and teasing each other, I got upset but this this time I flipped out and said if we weren't in lockdown I'd be packing my bags (maybe an overreaction). This time he got upset and said there was absolutely nothing going on, he loved me, she was just a good friend etc etc. The next morning he was very loving, constantly reassuring me, apologising that he'd been neglecting me. For a while things got better. He still spoke to her on the phone, but not nearly as much and I started to feel better, until one day I saw Facebook messages from her popping up on his phone. It was a Sunday so I felt a bit pissed off that she was encroaching on our time away from work but I tried not to get upset about it. I know it's bad but I thought I could go on his tablet and look at the messages she'd sent him. However, he has deleted the Facebook app off his tablet. Then last week he got a new phone and has now changed the pin number he has always used (I know at this point I sound like a jealous, paranoid wife but I absolutely swear I never normally check his phone/tablet- I only knew his pin number because it's the same one we use for all our devices. Before all this I completely trusted him and felt no need to check up on him). The other night I saw Facebook messages flashing up from her again and I got cross. He was annoyed and acted like I was being unreasonable, saying he only messaged her 'occasionally' so I apologised and said I didn't want him to end his friendship with her, it's my problem and I need to learn to deal with it and stop being jealous. Last night I managed to get into his Facebook account on his old phone (he doesn't know I did this. He'd deleted the app but when I downloaded it again, the login information had been saved). I read all the messages, even though it took me a couple of hours (there were that many). At first I felt reassured as there was nothing to suggest they've had any kind of inappropriate contact. However, the sheer volume of messages is unbelievable. I'm lucky to get a reply when I message him, but for the past couple of months, they've literally messaged each other from first thing in the morning to late into the night, all day every day (so much for toning it down- he's just got another way to contact her). The messages were pretty much daily before that, although there weren't as many. She sends him selfies (again, nothing inappropriate but wtf is she sending my husband photos of herself?). There are messages from him late at night asking if she's out (I assume those are from when he's been on nights out and wants to meet her). There was one night when he and I were both out with our friends separately and had arranged to meet later in the evening. There are messages to her that night asking if she was out, while at the same time he was also messaging me arranging when/where we were going to meet (I'm assuming he was trying to find out if he could meet up with her first). He talks to her about pretty much every aspect of his personal life, telling her all kinds of silly little things- the kids, his hobbies, friends of his she hasn't even met, funny things that have happened in his day etc but he never mentions me at all. There's lots of teasing each other, some mild sexual banter although nothing terrible and not about each other. He teases her about how many admirers she has at work, how many of the guys (and girls apparently) fancy her. There are messages asking her if she wants to go to gigs (this is really hurtful as he goes to lots of gigs but rarely asks me to go). One of the gigs he asked her to go to was one I'd told him about but he didn't invite me to go. He sends her cute animal memes and videos. If I send him something funny, he never responds but he has forwarded loads of the stuff I've sent him to her (no personal messages, just funny memes and videos I've sent him). I don't know if I'm being petty but I'm just so hurt by it. I've never contacted any of my close friends nearly to the extent that he contacts her, and they only met each other last year! I do believe nothing physical has happened between them as I think it's impossible to message each other so much without making any reference to it, but I can't help but think there are definitely feelings there. I'm going out of my mind with anxiety and today I feel so low. I just want to get away and try to get my head together but obviously with the lockdown, that's not possible. Am I overreacting and being paranoid? Or am I right to be hurt? I honestly don't know what to think right now, my head is all over the place. I feel like this is all I think about now and I just want to be happy again 😔

OP posts:
Sewrainbow · 03/05/2020 17:09

Emotional affair Sad

Smm77 · 03/05/2020 17:12

Thank you for being so lovely everyone ❤️

FizzyGreenWater · 03/05/2020 17:12

I mean, just to say - this isn't really much different from the cycle you've been in before. It's just ramped up each time. You blow, he apologises and makes promises... but lies to you. Your OP sets this out plainly:

Eventually I got really upset and told him how I felt. He reassured me she was just a friend but that he would tone it down. That didn't happen, he just got more secretive about talking to her. One day he went out in the garden to work, and when I went outside he was on his webcam with her. They also continued to have their hours-long conversations but he got sneaky about it. He'd close the door thinking I wouldn't be able to hear, and hide her name on his screen (his work calls come through his laptop and the name displays on the screen). The secrecy of it made me paranoid that there really was something to worry about. Again, after one too many calls listening to them giggling and teasing each other, I got upset but this this time I flipped out and said if we weren't in lockdown I'd be packing my bags (maybe an overreaction). This time he got upset and said there was absolutely nothing going on, he loved me, she was just a good friend etc etc. The next morning he was very loving, constantly reassuring me, apologising that he'd been neglecting me. For a while things got better.

He hasn't 'broken down' and 'realised' - you've made it plain more than once that he's out of order and has a thing happening with this woman that you consider inappropriate.

What he HAS done is be prepared to lie and sneak around to maintain things with her, behind your back.

So - keep watching - if he's told you to check FB and his phone that's worthless, he'll make sure any contact is via work messages/email you can't get into or with a hidden phone.

Don't take the word of a proven liar.

LettyBriggs · 03/05/2020 17:13

I’d probably be checking/asking him what his next steps ie will he be telling the colleague that he wants to cease non essential contact as he knows he has been inappropriate.
I’d be keeping an eye on it as it’s probably going to be quite difficult for him for a while, bear in mind that she had consumed such a huge part of life for the last few, what, weeks, months? that it won’t be as easy as he thinks to cease contact immediately. What I’m saying is basically, keep a close eye on the situation.
I hope it works out for you.

Sewrainbow · 03/05/2020 17:15

Worse than sexual in my opinion but I dont suppose he will even see it as an affair. That's the worst of it because you will become paranoid and do all the bad stuff of snooping and accusing and he can smugly say hes done nothing wrong because it isn't physical, so sorry op....

For me the trust would be gone and I think I'd want out but then my kids are older. Kids arent stupid, your daughter had picked up on how they were and that it was more than normal friends. A couple of instances in my life children have made similar comments and its because they pick up on the closeness and excited way people talk to each other and othe brody language things Sad

MegaClutterSlut · 03/05/2020 17:20

This thread has brought up painful memories for me. It sounds like my dh and the receptionist. Months going behind my back, messaging, sending poems and meeting up at break times. Emailing day and night and I knew absolutely nothing about her until about 3/4 months after it started. It literally floored me, I was fucked up for a long time, I really didn't see it coming

Everyone used to say dh would never do anything like that, you can see how much he loves you blah, blah, blah and tbh I thought it too. It wasn't until I literally pointed it out how wrong it all was like you that he finally got what a dickhead he had been and how he sorry he was. Nearly 2 years on I still don't trust him 100%, mostly as I have a guard up to stop me getting so hurt again

Good luck op, I hope it works out for you Flowers

AcrossthePond55 · 03/05/2020 17:28

@Smm77

All well and good that he's come clean. But IIRC He's 'come clean' before.

The two of you need counseling. Separately and then together. It will be the only way to heal the relationship and rebuild the trust.

popsydoodle4444 · 03/05/2020 17:28

Their having an emotional affair.It could be she isn't physically attracted to him and enjoys the attention/emotional support he gives her.Some women get off on it;a up one womanship on another woman.

However it would seem he's definitely into her,it's at this stage feelings develop and that's dangerous territory especially if she's single and is into him too.Its one emotionally charged moment away from becoming physical.

Unfortunately your at a disadvantage here,short of your DH leaving his job you're stuck in this situation.

Smm77 · 03/05/2020 18:36

I understand the cynicism but he hadn't really come clean before- he'd always maintained she was just a friend. Now he has owned up to an emotional affair and understands the gravity of it. It's obviously going to take time to rebuild our relationship and the trust I once had for him, and until then I'll be watching him like a hawk. Thank you for being concerned but I'm going to have faith that we will work this out.

BubblyBarbara · 03/05/2020 18:39

Definitely cheating, leave today even for a women’s refuge if necessary

SteeperThanHell · 03/05/2020 18:46

@BubblyBarbara - the OP isn't in any danger - Why on earth would she leave the family home and go to a refuge?

If you'd read the thread you would see that they have discussed and are trying to work things out.

BowiesJumper · 03/05/2020 18:47

I’d kick him out personally. Easier said than done though, especially at the moment.

BowiesJumper · 03/05/2020 18:58

Sorry just realised you’ve updated under a different name. Good luck, hope he genuinely realises what a massive tool he’s been.

Rainycloudyday · 03/05/2020 19:08

Definitely cheating, leave today even for a women’s refuge if necessary

Mumsnet is a very strange place sometimes. Do you have any idea what a women’s refuge is for @BubblyBarbara?! Not to belittle the shit that the OP is going through, but they really aren’t for women whose partners are sending too many emails to a work colleague. Ffs.

Kitikat1979 · 03/05/2020 19:24

He's at fault here. When I was single, you couldn't have paid me enough to get with a married man. She might have similar morals. Sadly it seems as though he's doing the running here and trying to pull her. It'd make me look long and hard at my relationship, if he gets flirty and giggly with her, not me, that would suggest problems. If he hasn't yet cheated, it seems he's trying to....

Summerofloaf · 03/05/2020 19:28

Well done OP sounds like a start. Best of luck hope it all works out.

Standrewsschool · 03/05/2020 19:29

Well done on your confrontation. Hopefully he means what he says, and just didn’t realise he was sliding into an emotional affair.

Wishing you all the best for the future.

Hannah021 · 03/05/2020 19:39

@Smm77
I'll be watching him like a hawk.

oh dear! you're really setting yourself up for misery, you can never control someone's emotions, the fact he's attracted to her, the fact he fancies her won't change anything by you burning yourself down observing him! Like I said before, you have the opportunity to ask him now to change his job for your peace of mind. The girl will simply not disappear from his head if she's there persistently, you can look over his shoulder forever, if he wants to hide something the options are endless. You will never catch up.

At least changing job means she won't be in his face and he'll end up moving on, unless he's a determined cheater which you say he isn't

1FootInTheRave · 03/05/2020 19:41

I really hope he's worth it op.

Keep your wits about you and know your worth.

AntiHop · 03/05/2020 19:41

Definitely an emotional affair, and definitely unacceptable when you're in a relationship.

Smm77 · 03/05/2020 19:57

Once again, thank you everyone for your advice. I'm going to stop reading these replies now as I think some of the comments are lacking a bit in sensitivity. I'm not expecting anyone to sugarcoat their advice, but some of the comments are really lacking in any kind of empathy and are making assumptions about areas of our lives that no-one else knows anything about, and right now I really don't need that. For the record, while what he has done is pretty shit, he's a very kind and gentle man and would never lay a finger on me or the kids. We aren't in danger and certainly don't need to go to a refuge. If I didn't want to live with him, he would never expect me to be the one to leave. Thanks again everyone, I wish you all the best xxx

OlgaTheBrickShed · 03/05/2020 20:01

OP, I have read your update. If you have read my post (and I would understand if you haven't, given the number of replies), you will know I was the one who did what your husband has done.

There were differences, though. I wonder what would have happened if XH and I had had an honest conversation about my EA and his abusive behaviour. It would have been our 30th wedding annversary today.

I really, really hope you both find a way through this. It's a good sign, that you both want to. Divorce is Hell.

Chickoletta · 03/05/2020 20:27

Good luck OP I have faith that you can get past this and save your marriage.

momtoboys · 03/05/2020 23:12

Thank you for the update. Good for you for bringing it to a head. It sounds as though it was a productive conversation. Hope all goes well.

TotallyDevotedToYou · 04/05/2020 00:14

I wish you all the best Op, but as long as they continue to work together the attraction/temptation will still be there. Keep a wary eye.
Good luck Flowers

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