A.i.b.u to think , fuck it to school work now?

[DollyPartons]

Dd , yr 9 can't be arsed at the best of times , but will just about complete most homework during term time as hates any confrontation from teachers. Started lockdown set homework but as times gone on like pulling teeth to get her to do any. Doesn't take to bribery or jossling. I've tried , a lot. She's just below average, I'm terrified this will plunder more but with no communication from school she's just not bothered . The school have not given guidelines to parents to get them to do the work , no expectations, schools out for summer early?

The thing is, what is your daughter going to do instead of schoolwork? Mine (year 7) moans about doing her work too, but actually there’s nothing much else to do so she gets on with it. I appreciate that not everyone has that mindset- my youngest doesn’t- but I’m concerned about all our mental health so I’d rather keep us busy because the alternative is pretty bleak and it will be harder when they all have to go back to school.

Faffandahalf Did I imply I wanted an individual timetable? No and I would have thought your expected level of comprehension you would not come to that conclusion. If you are a teacher, I can't understand why the level of aggression to me. Why not give constructive advice. Which by the way is why I haven't emailed yet! I did not want to bombard a teacher with this earlier in case they were overwhelmed with circumstance at the beginning, focussing on vunerable children . I've also got a whackload to do. I do however feel like by this time schools should be doing s bit more. You, being s teacher will have some expectation for your children too.
I'd also you not to be so condescending, that's not very smart or kind! Particularly behind a keyboard

Sure OP ok.
You want the school to do more but you also want them to be mind readers about what you want because you won’t actually contact them.

You’ve had plenty of advice but you seem insistent on kicking the boot into teachers most recently for their replies to your DD being too short

I had a problem with my son’s school where we couldn’t edit the maths documents. I messaged and emailed immediately and got a response back the next day.

It’s possible for there to be resolutions but you just want to have a moan. Which is totally fine. But saying you want more from the school and teachers without proactively doing anything about it yourself seems a bit pointless doesn’t it?

I’m ‘aggressive’ in your opinion because it has been 6 weeks of continuous and non stop teacher bashing on MN and I’m exhausted.

I'd said that I wasn't teacher bashing *Faffandahalf

• That was your interpretation. If you're exhausted then your school is clearly doing a lot! It seems to be the case that ours isn't. That's the point. I believe that i shouldn't be the only one to ensure she's working .

I don't expect them to childmind. I do expect them to check in at some point!

My daughter's school has set a timetable. It is sent to the students at the start of each week along with various zoom links.

They are expected to attend registration at 9.15am which is basically a welfare check/catch up by zoom then the first lesson starts at 9.30am. Each class lasts 45 mins and there is a 15 min break between every class plus an hour for lunch. Whole school assembly is every Monday at 9am, parents invited if they wish.

For some classes the teachers speak to the students at the start of the lesson, set a task then leave them to it. Other lessons are totally interactive. I've seen examples of things like students being set a challenge to re-create a famous piece of art using only items found in their house (lots of pets, tea towels and pieces of fruit seemed to feature) My daughter had to watch an excerpt from a dramatization of one of her texts one day, then the next day they had a class discussion by zoom.

Plus she tells me that today at 3pm one of her teachers has set up a tutor group social zoom call so they can just have a catch up.

I believe that i shouldn't be the only one to ensure she's working.
But I'm afraid that's where you're wrong. She is your daughter, and it is entirely your job to be responsible for how she spends her time at home.
You seem to want a teacher to come round and apply some discipline to her. Not going to happen, I'm afraid.
Schools are closed! The National Curriculum is suspended. All schools are actually going above and beyond to set work remotely, in order that children still get access to some form of education, even if it's not always exactly how we would have liked to teach it if schools were open.
It's not for a teacher to barge into your home environment (remotely) and start laying down the law (which is how many parents would view it). A timetable of the week would be helpful to many, so they could see what their child's "normal" week should look like and adapt it according to their own circumstances.

That sounds great Comefromfaraway Is it a state school?

Angelina- Again condescending doesn't help does it, might make you feel smug though

Its a specialist vocational school. The state pay for about half of the students (including my daughter) to attend and most of the rest are on bursaries of up to 50%. So not a rich school and they were not set up technically at all before this eg there has never been a school intranet or anything like show my homework.

The headteacher's dogs licking her face during assembly was so cute.

Not condescending or smug, no. Just stating how it is. Again.

The vast vast majority of schools are not using zoom. The school above is rare and should not be used as an example of excellence.
Most teaching unions have stated Zoom or other video calling lessons should not be taking place.
Moving that to one side, in households where parents and 4 siblings all share one computer it is physically impossible for students to adhere to a virtual timetable for video lessons.
I have students who can’t even get on to a laptop until 8pm because their parents need it to WFH.
Most households don’t have the income for several computers.

My daughter uses her phone & several of her friends use iPads. They go via Teams and have bought a package that gives added protection. Her A levels have been cancelled so she’s just doing dance, drama and singing lessons. For the dance lessons it’s vital for the teachers to see the students. Things have had to be adapted though as some students have a shoebox sized bedroom and others are lucky enough to have larger spaces.

I'll just leave this here for all the people harping on about Zoom
www.theguardian.com/technology/2020/apr/02/zoom-technology-security-coronavirus-video-conferencing

Some LAs has asked that, where possible, staff should use personal devices and emails when invited to Zoom calls because they're worried about the risk to school devices/email systems.

Our school quite rightly won't use Zoom for safeguarding reasons - one example which is here:

www.theguardian.com/world/2020/apr/11/singapore-bans-teachers-using-zoom-after-hackers-post-obscene-images-on-screens

You, being s teacher will have some expectation for your children too.

I am not a teacher, but being a parent I have some expectation for my dc too! Do you not?

You are placing a lot of blame on her teachers here when most of it lies firmly at your, and her but mostly your, own feet.

Her education has temporarily (we hope) moved into the home, you need to parent and get her to do it to the best of her ability. If she puts the effort in and struggles ask for help, but if she simply cant be arsed then sort it out.

Year 9 I’d try to motivate her. I’ve been getting my year 7 child to work everyday.

But my 8 and 6 year old have turned into cretins. I’ve given up. I gave up weeks ago.

That’s why dd’s School have purchased this extra package that runs in the background. I’m not entirely sure what it is, but apparently it’s very, very secure.

@KoalasandRabbit Zoom have released a new version recently (we have it at work) where the default is everyone goes into a waiting room now and needs to be invited in, they cant rename themselves, only the host can screen share unless permission given, you can turn off video, mute all etc. You can run a session where only you can talk and share content (with or without video) and attendees can only ask questions via chat.

So it is getting better, but not sure how good Educations IT support is to ensure all cyber security measures are fully in place.

Waiting rooms sound familiar.

That doesn't solve the malware element though weallhavewings

And who is meant to pay the Zoom subscription?
Not to mention buy the laptops for staff to use? No one on my staff has been provided with one from school. Any work done at home is courtesy of staff's own equipment.
And I've said several times before, either on this thread or others, my dh's University is happy that lecturers are using it, but have made clear that those staff are personally liable for any issues arising from it.
Hardly a ringing endorsement.

You had suggestions of what to do and to contact the school? Have you done that? It’s time to stop complaining and start acting op. You’re coming over as a victim.

I don’t think you have a clue how hard teachers are working to keep this all going and how creative they are being to give children proper lessons, which give them a decent opportunity to learn.

As for accusing the school of laziness for giving your dd a suggested timetable, which is a replica of the school timetable, I don’t understand your issue. Dds school is doing exactly that.

In fact in the days before schools closed, it was explained both to the students and letters sent out to the parents that lessons would be taught on the existing timetable. Teachers are around as much as possible, especially during the set hour, when the lesson would normally take place at school. Dds secondary school has been super organised and I’m incredibly impressed with the standard of organisation and teaching.

If you and your dd cannot take advantage of what is on offer, it is really sad for her. Have you actually looked at what is being sent to your dd?

Oh and I forgot. Teachers.

Ignoring the question so I'll ask again- what repercussions have you put in place as a result of her refusing to work?!

I've had some really brilliant suggestions on here from well meaning folk, that will certainly get put to use. For those that are choosing to interpret as teacher bashing, I think you need to go spend your time constructively because I , and nobody else did that. Mummyoflittledragon,* listen and listen up good. You've got it ALL wrong so I'm going to confiscate those flowers off you. You don't get to give for being so self righteous . And for being boring. I read your old posts.