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Share your dilemmas and get honest opinions from other Mumsnetters.

To not like my own adult children?

166 replies

Anotherday1972 · 27/04/2020 15:32

Ok I’m ready for a lot of criticism here and perhaps I deserve it, but am I being unreasonable to say I don’t actually like my kids very much, in fact barely at all now?

Without a doubt I loved them completely when they were born and vowed to bring them up the best I could. I became a single mother when they were very young (DD & DS). Their father had very little input either emotionally or financially despite my best efforts and I was always painted as the villain by his family for trying to get him to see them and get maintenance from him. Me, my DS & DD were a happy little band of three up until they became teenagers, when they began to disrespect me.

I have endured around a decade now of insults, abuse, nasty criticisms, disdain, disrespect etc. from both of them, they are now in their early 20’s. Son is at home again after losing third place I set him up in due to a number of issues. I am in considerable debt after helping them for so long and so often. DS blames me for his low self-esteem and total lack of motivation and substance abuse which I have focused all my energies on helping him with for many years, without success.

I feel desperately sad as I write this because it wasn’t supposed to be like this and I feel like crying, but it has reached the stage where I almost actively hate them for what they have done to me and the way they have turned out. No matter how friends and family reassure me, I still feel to blame. I was never perfect but I wasn’t that bloody bad! I feel sad then ashamed then guilty.

They talk about a ‘deprived childhood’ yet I have plenty of memories (and evidence!) of holidays abroad, cosy times together making dens, cooking together, trips away, often in an effort to detract from their useless father, I felt I was always trying to make up for his absence. I was definitely a full-on parent who went above and beyond despite working full-time. We always had home cooked meals, their favourite food, treats and above all, my time. Sometimes I think I must be going crazy and imagined their childhoods, if it wasn’t for the literally thousands of photographs and diaries I have recording all these events (they make very poignant reading now).

Finally after being single for all of their childhoods I tried OLD a couple of years ago and met a wonderful supportive partner. They hated this having got used to having me all to themselves for so long. It was my DP that eventually pointed out how totally disrespectful they were and how upset he got at the way they treated me but did not dare interfere. In the early days with him they would openly mock me in front of him only for them to say they were ‘joking’ if I challenged this. It was embarrassing and humiliating for me.

The type of words they will use to describe and send to me in messages have included ‘insane’ ‘mentally ill’ ‘weird’ unhinged’ ‘a poor achiever’ (ironic because I've done well in my job) I only seem to hear from them when they need something. My DP is getting increasingly frustrated I guess because he can see from an unbiased point of view. He often says what an amazing mum I’ve been and anyone would be lucky to have me, and how he fumes over the way they treat me. This in turn makes me feel totally inadequate and weak like I’ve let them down and now I'm letting him down. He has made efforts with them both but they have been quite disrespectful to him too.

It has reached the stage now where I feel like moving away with my DP if we could to escape the relentless depression they bring me. I am blamed for everything going wrong in their lives. They are both incredibly manipulative and often fall out with each other then make up and ostracise me. They will happily borrow large amounts of money because they ‘deserve’ a holiday then get cross about having to pay it back (either to me or other relatives).

I’ve put this on AIBU though would love some tips on how to cope from anyone who has been in the same situation, how to get stronger, I guess I’m asking AIBU in not liking them?

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LittleViolets · 28/04/2020 11:25

anotherday1972 I have a sibling whom I've been NC with for years now due to her being a drug taking, thieving, lying, narcisstic monster.
My mother is also NC with her. She doesn't like her, doesn't even love her and with the absolute torture she put mum through, I don't blame her.

Funnily enough we had an abusive father. Same childhood, two very different people.

You can only blame your childhood for so long. When you become an adult you have to pick your own path.

My mum and I are super close. She is an amazing woman, and she has more than paid her dues for my "father".

Sometimes family are not healthy people for us to have in our lives and you know what? That's okay.

Oliversmumsarmy · 28/04/2020 12:41

The type of words they will use to describe and send to me in messages have included ‘insane’ ‘mentally ill’ ‘weird’ unhinged’ ‘a poor achiever

Do you ever throw it back.

Your Ds does drugs. Surely that is just describing himself. If you were such a poor achiever why do they think you can afford to lend them money to go on holiday.

I think you all need some form of counselling. Them to work out why they treat you with such disdain which I think is more about their lack of a father than they would acknowledge and maybe that you overcompensated and you to start not being walked over or manipulated. And that includes by your Dp.

Being a parent is a balancing act between being super nice and open with your children so they feel safe that they can discuss anything with you. Giving them what they need and not automatically what they want and laying down the law as what is or isn’t acceptable

I think a sit down conversation with them to tell them how you feel and how hurtful the name calling is especially as they then come for handouts after telling you how useless you are.

You will help them figure out where they want to go in their lives and give them as much help as possible but not if they disrespect you.

You have brought them up and worked f/t to put a roof over their heads and food on the table and if they think that is you being weird or unhinged then they need to get out more as the rest of humanity is also weird and unhinged as that is all anyone is doing.

Your Ds needs to get off whatever he is taking. But I would point out to him that until he really wants to then it is pointless you trying and wasting your life trying to save him from himself.

Where does he see himself in 2/5/10 years time. Does he think he will still be living with you taking drugs and farting around doing the same thing day in and day out or does he think he is going to have made something of himself and stopped taking the drugs.
In which case what would be the trigger that made him stop.

The only thing you can do atm is concentrate on looking at the company he keeps and secretly weeding out those people who also take drugs

You won’t be helping him again financially in getting a place of his own.

He need to buckle down and get a job and the money together himself in order to move out from living with his mummy.

I think you have to work backwards in some cases to point out the discrepancies between what you want and how you are going to get it.

I think there a few things all people need to learn at some point

Life is hard and then you die. How hard life is all depends on you.
Karma is a bitch
And unless you were born with the proverbial golden spoon, you will work for every penny you have.

Mittens030869 · 28/04/2020 14:10

You can only blame your childhood for so long. When you become an adult you have to pick your own path.

Well, some people are not capable of doing that, sadly, my DB is one of those people. He blames my DM for that, but the only way that's true is that she's stepped in to bail him out too often. And now she's 80 years old, so won't be able to keep doing that.

I do blame my DM for our childhood, in the sense that she was unable to see what my F was doing under her nose. But the truth is that we don't live our lives in hindsight; she didn't know, so she didn't act, and the reality is that she's already punishing herself enough as it is.

Whatever the truth about their childhood, the OP's DC need to stop behaving like children and either go NC with their mum or work at building bridges with her. What they're doing is engaging in domestic abuse and there's never any excuse for that.

LittleViolets · 28/04/2020 21:47

mittens I definitely hold my mum responsible for some if it. However, she has acknowledged it all and apologised, we have had many painful conversations over the years.

She isn't with him anymore which helps obviously, but he truly is a despcible person and she very much was his victim also.

She was a soft target for my sib because she felt so much guilt over our childhood, that she let her get away with some truly awful things.

It is a tough one though, breaking away from it all can be excruciating.

Mittens030869 · 28/04/2020 22:08

@LittleViolets My F is dead, he died 23 years ago, which definitely makes it easier on a practical level. Although it's hard to explain but in some ways he's still in my head, even now.

My DM's relationship with my DSis has always been more stormy, as she's been more able to express her anger than I have. (She and I have been a real support for each other, though.)

I'm glad you and your DM have been able to talk to each other about this. Sadly, my DM just bursts into tears if I try to bring it up and asks me not to spoil her time with her DGDs. So there are so many things I haven't been able to talk to her about. (To be fair, she is 80 now.)

Thanks For you. I've found it so sad on here to know how many other people have had similar experiences. But it's also been very helpful for me.

GrumpyHoonMain · 28/04/2020 22:38

If they disrespect you, you need to stand up to them. Don’t let them brush it off as a joke and make them own their comments by throwing them out. You raised your kids and now they are adults they must pay for your support with respect or piss off

LittleViolets · 29/04/2020 00:54

mittens Flowers for you too.

Anotherday1972 · 29/04/2020 21:33

AndSheSteppedOnTheBall
Thanks for your post. Yes they know I've had to get loans to help them, my son ran up debts for me as his guarantor in the thousands...he has just received a tax rebate & made no attempt to settle this instead buying a £200 pair of trainers...
Thanks to all the advice/support on here I'm lining up my ducks (is that the expression??) & toughening up to protect myself & relationship with DP.
Thank you.

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Roussette · 29/04/2020 22:04

Did he pay anything back to you? Because that is absolutely appalling. Sorry to hear this. Such selfishness

Anotherday1972 · 29/04/2020 22:07

Oliversmumsarmy
Thank you for your comprehensive response, makes a lot of sense.

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newnamenumber7 · 04/05/2020 17:56

It was your choice, your decision, to take on loans 'to help them'.

understandme · 04/05/2020 20:43

I hear you, it's tough and it hurts!

Sophia67 · 16/08/2020 14:45

I'm sorry to hear about what's happening to you. With all due respect, your children behaviour is borderline domestic violence. It shows a lot about their inherently narcissistic personalities (please search the topic of narcissistic personality in relationships on the internet. This could be very helpful to you.) Of course, this has nothing to do with you or the way you brought them up. On the contrary, this has everything to do with them and the system that raised them which constantly pointed the finger to blame and shame parents for the way youngsters have come to be. I'm sure you've done a lot of talking and explaining before as all good parents do. My advice to you is that you don't listen to the advice of other participants that tell you to go and speak to your adult children and listen to their complaints because it's too late. You won't be able to change their opinion about you now if you failed to do it before. Also, this would be their opportunity to knock you down of balance again and destroy your self-esteem. Let life and their own experiences do the explaining for you.
I would say just ignore them for now and do not change this attitude when they come to you begging for things. Stand your ground firmly whether you're with someone or on your own. The chances are you had to put up with them for years because you were a single mum and was worried to stay alone. Don't feel like that! It's better for us to be alone than to be in abusive relationships. There are a lot of support groups on the internet for single independent women in general. You will find the support you need when you seek it wholeheartedly without fear or hesitation. Don't doubt yourself even if the whole world came against you! Don't open up to them before you see a true change of heart. And I hope that you learn from this experience so that you may become a stronger independent woman that fears nothing whether in a relationship or on her own. You don't even need to justify your opinions or decisions based on your BF's opinions. Regardless of what he thinks, it's what YOU think that matters the most.
All the best

Anotherday1972 · 13/05/2021 07:00

Hello everyone. I came across my own post whilst searching for the examples of the same problem over a year later...didn't realise it was my own post at first as had NC on MN since then, how bizarre !

Anyway I thought I'd give an update for anyone who's interested. Good news first- my son has completely changed, moved out, found somewhere to live, got a job despite lockdown and is now personable, kind and caring towards me. We've had some in depth chats about everything and he no longer blames me for his feelings about the past. We are in a good place for now. He says he's grown up and is taking responsibility for his life and has had some counselling too which helped but more so my stopping enabling him helped him grow up.
It's wonderful to have this good relationship with him.
Unfortunately my daughter has recently turned against me, has lost her job due to gross misconduct, bought several expensive items on finance including a new car and is seeing a 'lovely new boyfriend' who it turns out lives at home with his mum, can't drive and deals drugs (but "it's ok because it's just selling weed to his mates").
She has become Vicious and nasty and judgemental towards me and burst into my house telling me to fuck off and she never wanted to see me again after I was cross with her for exposing us to Covid-19 by failing to stick to the rules and partying every weekend.
I went NC with her for a few weeks which felt great. I realised that I don't actually like who I am when I'm around her.
Then I felt guilty and reached out to her but it was only a matter of days before I had yet again not 'put her first' as she saw it.
She's made it clear she wants nothing more to do with me. Sad but I can't cope with the drama.
Thanks for reading if anyone was interested or has anything to add.

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Bgirl123 · 04/06/2024 10:32

I know exactly how you feel ,my adult kids are 41 & 42 ,I have had years of abuse from them especially my daughter who has twins who I absolutely adore,their father has nothing to do with them ,nor do the other grandparents,I do everything to help my daughter. The children sleep over every Saturday night which I love it,but when ever I want a weekend to myself my daughter sulks.She is never happy I tell her I can not babysit a weekend as I am a single grandmother of 62,having had a heart attack ,a pituitary tumour and back issues she keeps pushing me,when I say no to her or sick up for myself I get a barage of abuse ,from calling me a narcissistic mother to then stopping me seeing the children.
She only wants to lend money and have me for babysitting. It is an awful thing to say but she is just like her abusive father who I left when the children (11mths apart) because he kicked my tooth out and hit my son,he still blames me after 40yrs and spews lie after lie about me on social media.
As long as I do what ever my daughter wants everything is fine but I dare say no or stand up to her she will send abusive text after text,saying that I do nothing for her or support her.It is devastating after doing your best as a single mother.

My grandsons are my world and she knows it ,now because I said no to her she has blocked me and said I am not welcome in their lives and this is a repeat cycle for over 7 years since she had the twins.
I am so sick and tired of her abuse and insults that I am considering letting her go ,which means I will not see my darling grandchildren .
It is hell,I had to cut my son off because of his drugs and gambling and constant wanting money. I have worked hard all my life and lost my mother at 17yrs old ,been through domestic violence and got out of it,it sad to say but sometime your children have their fathers traits and there is nothing you can do about it.

Iaminthefly · 04/06/2024 10:35

If they dislike you so much then they should stop taking your money and also get out of your house.

I would simply refuse to help them anymore. I am so sorry. Your posts are heartbreaking. I am a single mum and make so many sacrifices for my DC. I would be devastated if they turned on me like this.

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