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To not like my own adult children?

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Anotherday1972 · 27/04/2020 15:32

Ok I’m ready for a lot of criticism here and perhaps I deserve it, but am I being unreasonable to say I don’t actually like my kids very much, in fact barely at all now?

Without a doubt I loved them completely when they were born and vowed to bring them up the best I could. I became a single mother when they were very young (DD & DS). Their father had very little input either emotionally or financially despite my best efforts and I was always painted as the villain by his family for trying to get him to see them and get maintenance from him. Me, my DS & DD were a happy little band of three up until they became teenagers, when they began to disrespect me.

I have endured around a decade now of insults, abuse, nasty criticisms, disdain, disrespect etc. from both of them, they are now in their early 20’s. Son is at home again after losing third place I set him up in due to a number of issues. I am in considerable debt after helping them for so long and so often. DS blames me for his low self-esteem and total lack of motivation and substance abuse which I have focused all my energies on helping him with for many years, without success.

I feel desperately sad as I write this because it wasn’t supposed to be like this and I feel like crying, but it has reached the stage where I almost actively hate them for what they have done to me and the way they have turned out. No matter how friends and family reassure me, I still feel to blame. I was never perfect but I wasn’t that bloody bad! I feel sad then ashamed then guilty.

They talk about a ‘deprived childhood’ yet I have plenty of memories (and evidence!) of holidays abroad, cosy times together making dens, cooking together, trips away, often in an effort to detract from their useless father, I felt I was always trying to make up for his absence. I was definitely a full-on parent who went above and beyond despite working full-time. We always had home cooked meals, their favourite food, treats and above all, my time. Sometimes I think I must be going crazy and imagined their childhoods, if it wasn’t for the literally thousands of photographs and diaries I have recording all these events (they make very poignant reading now).

Finally after being single for all of their childhoods I tried OLD a couple of years ago and met a wonderful supportive partner. They hated this having got used to having me all to themselves for so long. It was my DP that eventually pointed out how totally disrespectful they were and how upset he got at the way they treated me but did not dare interfere. In the early days with him they would openly mock me in front of him only for them to say they were ‘joking’ if I challenged this. It was embarrassing and humiliating for me.

The type of words they will use to describe and send to me in messages have included ‘insane’ ‘mentally ill’ ‘weird’ unhinged’ ‘a poor achiever’ (ironic because I've done well in my job) I only seem to hear from them when they need something. My DP is getting increasingly frustrated I guess because he can see from an unbiased point of view. He often says what an amazing mum I’ve been and anyone would be lucky to have me, and how he fumes over the way they treat me. This in turn makes me feel totally inadequate and weak like I’ve let them down and now I'm letting him down. He has made efforts with them both but they have been quite disrespectful to him too.

It has reached the stage now where I feel like moving away with my DP if we could to escape the relentless depression they bring me. I am blamed for everything going wrong in their lives. They are both incredibly manipulative and often fall out with each other then make up and ostracise me. They will happily borrow large amounts of money because they ‘deserve’ a holiday then get cross about having to pay it back (either to me or other relatives).

I’ve put this on AIBU though would love some tips on how to cope from anyone who has been in the same situation, how to get stronger, I guess I’m asking AIBU in not liking them?

OP posts:
Coyoacan · 27/04/2020 16:50

I think it is part of modern-day growing up when our kids start to think that they would have turned out perfect if it were not for their parents' faults. Unfortunately as parents we sometimes believe this ourselves and then that is used against us. Whatever faults the OP might have had, she obviously did the best she could by her lights, and what more really can we ask of a parent?

OP, I have an adult dd that I adore but who does not adore me back. We had to live together because of finances and the care of my dgd. But she would take all her bad moods out on me. My best friend has two dds, and the youngest behaves a lot like my dd. The truth is we spoilt them. We organised our lives around them and made them feel like they were the centre of the universe. Now I am living apart from my dd and life is so much better.

I think our job as parents to raise our children to adulthood, not to be their bank or whipping boy.

popsydoodle4444 · 27/04/2020 16:53

Good friends of ours who are in their thirties who currently live alone (no kids at home) are renting out one of their bedrooms& one of the reception rooms to some family friends who are mid fifties after their adult son has bled them dry.

He goes from job to job;has substance abuse items,is up to his eyes in debt,is a pathological liar etc.

His parents are lovely and have another child who's a well rounded individual.They've had to give up their home and made it clear to their son he wasn't going to be moving into their new home with them especially as technically their now lodgers.

Suzie6789 · 27/04/2020 16:54

Yes you must move away from their disrespect and insults. Turn off the money tap too.
It sounds like they are ganging up on you.
If you’re such a poor achiever let them test how far they can go in their own then?

ilovemydogandmrobama2 · 27/04/2020 16:55

This is so sad - a part of me is wondering how they both justify being so horrible to you? Possibly some this stems from the fact of not having a partner to back you up, and mirroring how their father treats you is somehow justifiable.

So now your new partner arrives on the scene, with a new pair of eyes and is horrified by their behaviour and their deep seated disrespect for you.

I had a really difficult relationship with my mother. She was not what one would call a, 'natural,' and struggled quite a bit after my sister's death and the divorce shortly after that.

We have a good relationship now, but I was never disrespectful.

Of course you need to start putting yourself first and don't feel guilty about that, but would it be worth getting family counselling to get an outside perspective?

browzingss · 27/04/2020 17:01

Seems strange that both your children dislike you, seems that there might be some merit in their childhood claims. Everyone remembers things differently and it’s perfectly plausible that you tried your best whilst they simultaneously had an unhappy childhood. No parent is 100% perfect, everyone makes mistakes and can be unpleasant to be around at times, even if you are fundamentally a “good” person and didn’t intend to cause them any hardship. There may be fault on both sides, particularly now with your son who has substance abuse problems.

Going forward though, if you dislike each other than maybe it’s time for all of you to move on? No one deserves to be subject to consistent verbal abuse, even from family, so you’re perfectly within yourself rights to ask your son to move out ASAP and distance yourself from both of them.

Only you can say whether you can salvage a relationship with them, but I’m not sure how it’s possible if you all disagree on such fundamental matters. Maybe some time apart is needed, culminating in a frank conversation establishing boundaries on all sides of you want to resume contact.

Thighmageddon · 27/04/2020 17:01

Another one here with an adult child that has rewritten history. Had crappy shoes, he had shoes fitted at Clarks, never did anything as a child, he went to multiple clubs and activities, ate really cheap food, I cooked with fresh ingredients from scratch every day, was poorly dressed, erm the extremely full photo albums disagree with this, had rubbish Christmas presents, see the photo albums again. Apparently I didn't spend much time with him either, despite my very clear memories of weekends being filled with lots of doing stuff together or hiring a video out, buying popcorn and spending the afternoon giggling away at whatever we were watching.

I'm very low contact with him these days because I can't be doing with him having a few drinks and phoning me up to winge and whine about his impoverished childhood.

I moved over 100 miles away in part to get away from him. My now dh of many years tries to be impartial but he will intervene if he needs to.

Move away Op, limit contact and watch your life improve.

GigiLamour · 27/04/2020 17:05

I think my own mum did a poor job as a mother and has a lot of unacknowledged mental health issues. I think I've had some problems as a result.

Do I sponge off her, live with her or insult her? No, of course not! If you genuinely have a mother like that, the sane thing to do is to stay away from her and have as little to do with her as possible. You detach and lead your own life. You don't hang around treating her as a verbal punchbag and asking her for handouts.

What you have got there are two overentitled brats who behave that way because they have learnt that they can. I'm sorry, but it's time for you to stop allowing this. You are currently enabling this situation.

If they think you're so awful, then they should piss off and lead their own lives instead of sitting around leeching off you, shouldn't they?

PalePinkCarnation · 27/04/2020 17:06

When we have the awful, we took you to a stately home thread, with people blaming their parents for everything, it’s nice to see another side.
You have my sympathy.
And you are not alone.
Sadly

hellsbellsmelons · 27/04/2020 17:07

where I feel like moving away with my DP if we could to escape the relentless depression they bring me
You've done all you can for them OP. In fact, probably too much.
Time now for YOU!!
Yes, guess what??? You deserve happiness and peace as well.
YOU get one shot at this life.
You've sacrificed yourself for long enough.
Enjoy your life now.
Your DC are adults and as such they can sort themselves out.
Move away and enjoy life.
What is the point of it otherwise?
They can get to fuck and support themselves.
It's time to cut those apron strings.
It's time to let them go and do what they need to do.

missyB1 · 27/04/2020 17:07

Well if you are such a terrible mother then they won’t complain if you move away with your partner will they? Start making plans for a happier more peaceful life.

slipperyeel · 27/04/2020 17:08

My sister has a very different memory of our childhood. To me it was ok, to her it was awful. She is entitled to her own experience. My mum tells her she’s wrong and it doesn’t help their relationship one bit. Just because a family lives through the same events, it doesn’t mean their experiences are the same.

When I hear accusations of “rewriting history” it makes me sad. Sometimes you have to listen, however hard it is.

recrudescence · 27/04/2020 17:08

I too think you should move away with your partner and prioritise your own happiness. Yes, you’re likely to feel somewhat guilty and contradicted but you might find that easier to deal with than being abused by your adult children. Oh, and make a will - it sounds as if they’ve had quite enough of your money already.

wantmorenow · 27/04/2020 17:10

I like my kids but have always planned to move to small place or even abroad to a sunny place once they are independent. It's normal not to want to stop parenting your adult kid's lives.

I know of a few parents who have relocated to anywhere their kids don't live just to reclaim their lives.

Sounds like your DP is spot on. Get your life back without undeserved guilt - they are adults now. Time they learned to do adulting. Hard but it's your time to enjoy life. This pandemic health crisis really brings home the truth that we have one life to live well.

How old are these adults?

onegirlandherdog · 27/04/2020 17:11

A previous poster said this and it's the best thing I've read on here. I'd learn it, repeat it, and say it like a broken record, until they get the message.

'I think all you can do is explain calmly that you feel that you have done your very best for them and that you understand that they do not feel the same way. That you will always be there for them, but are unable to give them houseroom or fund them moving forward. That you will always love them and that you are always at the end of the phone.

Then make your peace with what has been, and look to whatever future you want to live.'

EineReiseDurchDieZeit · 27/04/2020 17:15

My sister completely rewrote our childhood when she left home, and I had a vague sense of this when her friends would look at me strangely all the time like "oh thats the awful sister" and then later, confused "but she doesn't seem so bad". That she had exaggerated our upbringing for sympathy was always in the back of my mind.

Eventually after many many years of lies one of her friends completely stopped speaking to her after visiting our family home and commenting in a confused way that it was nice and so was the area.

My DM dismissed this as "Jealousy" on the part of the friend.

I replied "or that she's spent years and years lying about how she grew up in abject poverty and you never had any time for her, because I was spoiled, and she's finally been caught out as a complete bullshitter by someone she's lied to for 20 years"

My DMs face was a picture. She knew I'd hit the nail on the head.

Basically some people are attention seekers who need a sob story to "compete" with.

Backtolifebacktoreality99 · 27/04/2020 17:20

If you want to have a relationship with them (but not the one you have now) would you consider family therapy? I think, however much we try, as Phillip Larking says "they F* you up, your mum and dad". It takes courage to listen to hard truths (even if they are only their truth and not the whole story) and recognise and where things weren't perfect, as well as drawing boundaries around what is acceptable in the relationship. It may be there are things they are blaming you for that actually lay at the foot of their dad, but that won't be worked out by denying their feelings. You need an impartial and supportive family therapist.

Lots of posters will come and say, cut contact, those ungrateful kids. But is that really what you want? Or do you want to restore relationship on a new footing?

AgentJohnson · 27/04/2020 17:24

You stopped supporting them years ago, instead you’ve been enabling them. Overcompensating, bailing them out repeatedly and being their on call doormat has not changed them or your relationship with them.

It’s time to stop making yourself available for their character assassinations.

PsQsAndFs · 27/04/2020 17:24

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MarieIVanArkleStinks · 27/04/2020 17:26

What a sad, sad thread. I have nothing really to add to the kind and compassionate advice you've been given by PP here, other than I'm sorry you find yourself in such a painful situation Flowers

GoldenKelpie · 27/04/2020 17:37

@Anotherday1972, oh my dear I'm so, so sorry to read your comments and no way do I judge you, in fact here are some Flowers and a (((virtual hug))) from me.

I haven't read anyone else's replies but I am sure there are mumsnetters out there who have offered experience and support.

sugarbum · 27/04/2020 17:40

You don't have to like them OP and you certainly don't have to fund them.
My step-mum went NC with her youngest daughter years ago. She doesn't regret it and she still has contact with her grandchildren (and great grand children).
I personally haven't seen her either for 25 years - she was a horrible child and I had no wish to know her as an adult. She 're-wrote' her history too. Blamed everyone else for her terrible decisions. And took took took but never paid back and DStepM finally had enough.
Sometimes you just have to cut that cord.

Having said that, sometimes its the parents that re-write history or 'forget' significant events that damage their children forever. MIL is such a person.

Wakaranaihito · 27/04/2020 17:41

Boundaries. Boundaries. Boundaries. You have every right to set them and have them respected. Your DC are adults now time for you to enjoy your life for you.

I think you'll be surprised how they might change if you just distance yourself and stop helping. They will may also be happier for it.

When I was in my 20s I kept asking my Mum to do me little favors - didn't occur to me that it might not be convenient for her to stop and run around after me. I didn't see her as a person in her own right, properly, until she said no to me calling and saying me and my DP would be coming for Xmas for 2 weeks. I couldn't believe that she said No - it was my house FGS! However, after I got over the shock and hurt I slowly (very slowly) realised that she had a life too.

Now my kids are teens/young adults I'm desperate for them to piss off and do their own thing. I like them sometimes and really don't at others. Has nothing to do with whether I love them or not.

HarrietTheShy · 27/04/2020 17:43

When did you lose that bond with your kids, OP? Was it when your new partner entered the picture? Not blaming, just trying to understand how it went from happy childhood to your kids calling you 'mentally ill'.

evianbaby1 · 27/04/2020 17:43

This really made me reflect on my childhood and my relationship with my 6 year old son. I really hope we have a great relationship forever. But I've seen firsthand how awful relationships with parents can get.

I moved out at 15 but my brother is early 30's and lives on and off with her. He hasn't got a job - sells drugs. He treats it like a hostel, he barely acknowledges her, makes mess but doesn't clean or wash up etc. He's rude to her, doesn't help with anything at all despite the fact she is ill. She complains to me but she has enabled him to be like this and she will do so for the rest of her life. She says she did her best when we were kids but neither of us had a great childhood.

OP, go and live your life and enjoy your partner. You've raised your kids to adulthood, you've done your job, go and enjoy your life. Or, be like my mum, lonely, depressed, despised by one of her kids and miserable.

springydaff · 27/04/2020 17:43

You have to bear in mind that if you move away it's likely you won't have a relationship with them for many years. They will be apoplectic they're punching bag has moved out of reach. But I do think you have to cut them loose for the foreseeable.

There's no excuse for abuse. That holds true not just in intimate relationships but all relationships. Regardless what someone has been through, they're is no excuse to abuse.

Do they have a relationship with their dad? If so, chances are he's been dripping poison into their ears about you over the years. You can't rule this out. It's surprising, and so dispiriting, how successful this can be. Re parental alienation, as wicked as a snake.

Go to al-anon to get some strategies on how to behave with them going forward. (al-anon isn't just for those close to an alcoholic). Joshua Coleman is someone to watch, too, do look him up.

I'm so sorry you're facing this horror. Maybe a miracle will happen but it'll probably take a long time Flowers