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AIBU?

Share your dilemmas and get honest opinions from other Mumsnetters.

To not like my own adult children?

166 replies

Anotherday1972 · 27/04/2020 15:32

Ok I’m ready for a lot of criticism here and perhaps I deserve it, but am I being unreasonable to say I don’t actually like my kids very much, in fact barely at all now?

Without a doubt I loved them completely when they were born and vowed to bring them up the best I could. I became a single mother when they were very young (DD & DS). Their father had very little input either emotionally or financially despite my best efforts and I was always painted as the villain by his family for trying to get him to see them and get maintenance from him. Me, my DS & DD were a happy little band of three up until they became teenagers, when they began to disrespect me.

I have endured around a decade now of insults, abuse, nasty criticisms, disdain, disrespect etc. from both of them, they are now in their early 20’s. Son is at home again after losing third place I set him up in due to a number of issues. I am in considerable debt after helping them for so long and so often. DS blames me for his low self-esteem and total lack of motivation and substance abuse which I have focused all my energies on helping him with for many years, without success.

I feel desperately sad as I write this because it wasn’t supposed to be like this and I feel like crying, but it has reached the stage where I almost actively hate them for what they have done to me and the way they have turned out. No matter how friends and family reassure me, I still feel to blame. I was never perfect but I wasn’t that bloody bad! I feel sad then ashamed then guilty.

They talk about a ‘deprived childhood’ yet I have plenty of memories (and evidence!) of holidays abroad, cosy times together making dens, cooking together, trips away, often in an effort to detract from their useless father, I felt I was always trying to make up for his absence. I was definitely a full-on parent who went above and beyond despite working full-time. We always had home cooked meals, their favourite food, treats and above all, my time. Sometimes I think I must be going crazy and imagined their childhoods, if it wasn’t for the literally thousands of photographs and diaries I have recording all these events (they make very poignant reading now).

Finally after being single for all of their childhoods I tried OLD a couple of years ago and met a wonderful supportive partner. They hated this having got used to having me all to themselves for so long. It was my DP that eventually pointed out how totally disrespectful they were and how upset he got at the way they treated me but did not dare interfere. In the early days with him they would openly mock me in front of him only for them to say they were ‘joking’ if I challenged this. It was embarrassing and humiliating for me.

The type of words they will use to describe and send to me in messages have included ‘insane’ ‘mentally ill’ ‘weird’ unhinged’ ‘a poor achiever’ (ironic because I've done well in my job) I only seem to hear from them when they need something. My DP is getting increasingly frustrated I guess because he can see from an unbiased point of view. He often says what an amazing mum I’ve been and anyone would be lucky to have me, and how he fumes over the way they treat me. This in turn makes me feel totally inadequate and weak like I’ve let them down and now I'm letting him down. He has made efforts with them both but they have been quite disrespectful to him too.

It has reached the stage now where I feel like moving away with my DP if we could to escape the relentless depression they bring me. I am blamed for everything going wrong in their lives. They are both incredibly manipulative and often fall out with each other then make up and ostracise me. They will happily borrow large amounts of money because they ‘deserve’ a holiday then get cross about having to pay it back (either to me or other relatives).

I’ve put this on AIBU though would love some tips on how to cope from anyone who has been in the same situation, how to get stronger, I guess I’m asking AIBU in not liking them?

OP posts:
Wanderlust21 · 27/04/2020 16:09

Unfortunately they are cut from the same cloth ad their father. Whether this is genetic or due to his influence or both, they are what they are.

Tome to stop looking after you. Your son is right about one thing though, his life rn is to some extent your fault. BUT: it is because you keep enabling him! You have set him up with 3 jobs he has lost? Because he is a shiftless sod. Tell him to slong his hook. I mean it. Boot his ass out. He'll soon keep a job when he no longer has his mammy to pay his bills.

You need to start taking care of you. It diesnt matter who people are to us, we shouldbt let them disrespect us.

I wouldn't bother with ultimatums. Ppl who disrespect you will continue to if you show any sign of weakness. And to them - compromise and second (or more) chances are weakness. Give him a deadline to be out by. Then change the locks if he isnt. No more babying them.

AudaCityLimits · 27/04/2020 16:15

You poor thing. This is difficult to read.
Re. the different versions of the past, I think that this is pretty common tbh, and I think it takes a lot of compromise from both sides to arrive at a peaceful place. There are different versions of the truth that can all be completely correct. Tbh, my parent would say the same as you do about my childhood, and they'd be right in parts- but it would also be fair to say that it was, in many ways, very very difficult.

HavenDilemma · 27/04/2020 16:15

I don't mean this in any accusatory way and I totally sympathise as this situation is one of my many fears as a single mother to a child who's father is much the same as you describe your DC's father to be;
However, I'd be interested to hear them try to explain why they call you such awful names...

I mean it's never ok to disrespect your mother, certainly not in such a vile way. Awful.
All I'm saying is, they must have some kind of reason in their own minds at least, (false or otherwise) for why they're calling you unhinged and mentally ill?

cherrybunx0 · 27/04/2020 16:16

you can love someone but not like them. I wouldnt like someone who treated me in that way, relative or not. its even more hurtful actually that this attitude has come from people who are related to you.
I would stop lending them money and ignore them when they start being spiteful.
you exist outside of being their mother - you are a person with feelings and a life too.

I cringed when I read this as my mum was born in 72, my mum left our abusive dad(well my brothers dad - didn't know my own father) and my brother treats my mum similarly. doesnt treat my dad badly though (go figure) even though he was the one who wasnt there and mum did everything.
if it wasnt for the fact your dd is just as bad as ds (I adore my mum and fully appreciate everything she went through as a young single parent especially now I have a child of my own) this could of been my mum. the ages even match too (early 20s)
in my brothers case, hes actually never gotten over the fact he didnt have both parents growing up, my mum is the easiest target as dad just doesn't engage or care whereas mum gets visibly upset and tries to explain and hes got a massive chip on his shoulder and thinks the world owes him a favour.
its shit and there is no excuse for it - seems you're just an easy verbal punch bag and I think for your own wellbeing you need to distance from this before you have no self esteem yourself

Fedhimtotigers · 27/04/2020 16:18

You've done your time. Your sentence is over.

Tell your son that he has one more chance. The next disrespectful action or words towards you and he's out and his number is blocked. Same for your daughter. You owe them nothing more.

enjoyingSun · 27/04/2020 16:21

I wonder if this is a case of act like a doormat and get walked all over?

I wouldn't be lending money and if other family do that's their choice and nothing to do with you.

I'd also be thinking abount boundaries - I wouldn't hold with the woe is me talk - change subject, remind that what they had, walk away from conversation. I'd also call out disrespect and poor tone again walking away from conversations if necessary.

Moving away may well help with this - more distance emotionaly and physically.

Meruem · 27/04/2020 16:21

I was a single mum of 2 who are now adults, and this post makes me really sad. I understand why people are saying to cut them out and I can understand why you would want to. But potentially losing your DC forever would be heart breaking for all of you. New partners are always quick to point out that DC are being "ungrateful" or "rude" etc. But you have to remember that their motivation is that they want a relationship with you, not your DC. It won't matter to your partner if you never see your DC again. So he isn't fully "unbiased". He may not be able to admit that, even to himself, but I have seen it time and time again.

I agree with minettechatouette and I think you should have an honest open talk with them. A good relationship with adult DC is worth way more than a man who may or may not stick around. I've learnt that lesson myself. I think if you give up on them, you will regret it one day. Maybe something like family counselling could help. I do understand that you feel at the end of your tether but do you want it to get to the stage where you have grandchildren you never see?

MidnightCircus · 27/04/2020 16:21

I'm coming at this from someone who had a pretty horrible childhood frankly. Won't go into details, but abusive and deprived sums it up. I have my issues. My job to fix them. I don't ask for anything from my mother, why the hell would I go to the person who caused most of them? Doesn't make sense to me.
I honestly think for all your sakes, cutting some space is a good idea. I know they're your children, but they're adults. They have to start adulting at some point, not expecting you to fix it.
As for liking your children, well, I've always known neither parent did. I still try to have some sort of relationship with my mother, but it's on my terms. I'll talk to her now and again, but that's it. You can choose your friends but not your family is a cliche for damn good reason.

Bloodymary · 27/04/2020 16:22

I have a DD just like that OP; she likes to rewrite history, but she had a great childhood, she was even known as a 'rich bitch' among certain circles, (not a term I like at all), but it gives you an idea of what she had.
I am now raising her Daughter (no great hardship as I love her dearly) because of her addictions.
I love my DD dearly, but I am afraid that I don't like her very much Sad

Goostacean · 27/04/2020 16:24

@Roussette absolutely nailed it. Nothing to add.

notangelinajolie · 27/04/2020 16:24

My husband's sister is just like your DC's. She ran their poor mum ragged and according to my DH totally rewrote their childhood. His mum has passed away now but I always felt dreadfully sorry for her. Her daughter was so nasty to her and was only nice to her when she wanted something. My DH loved his mum to bits and has never forgiven his sister for making his mum's life so miserable. Poor woman gave her everything. My DH says he could not have had a kinder more loving mum - as I am sure you are.

I am so sorry that it is both your children. I don't think there is anything more for you to do other than get on with your life with your partner and leave them to it. No doubt they will reappear when they have children who need childcare. When that happens you should be prepared and not allow yourself to be used.

Good luck to you Flowers

enjoyingSun · 27/04/2020 16:30

All I'm saying is, they must have some kind of reason in their own minds at least

Friend of the family have this - it drug and mental health related.

They had to learn to put in firm boundaries in but do have a realtionship with their children - they do have to stop conversations and even walk away - and have always been there to pick peices up at a cost to their own health and well being - but they have to refused to be maninpuated and to be mental and at times physical punch bags.

It wasn't easy for them to do either - but they still have relationships with them.

newnamenumber7 · 27/04/2020 16:30

she likes to rewrite history, but she had a great childhood, she was even known as a 'rich bitch' among certain circles (not a term I like at all), but it gives you an idea of what she had.

This setiment comes up a lot, so may I just highlight here that having money and possessions does not necessarily equal a great childhood. Knowing that someone grew up rich wouldn't in any way indicate to me that they grew up happy.

billy1966 · 27/04/2020 16:32

OP, however hard you did try, you are also responsible for teaching them how to treat you, and how they can disrespect you.

You need to OWN this.

They sound like deeply unpleasant, entitled people, whom have treated you very poorly for a long time.

And yet you are there, continuing to support them, accept their abuse, handing over money.

Again, you really need to OWN your part in this if you want it to change.

Tell your son move out if he is abusive.
It's that simple.
He's an abusive man in your home.

Tell them both not to contact you again, until they are prepared to treat you with respect.

And mean it.

Stop apologising for their father...not your responsibility.

The alternative is you remain an emotional punching bag for them.

It is quite possible to love your children, but not like them, and be in Low Contact with them.

Its a part of life for some people.

But you have to OWN the fact that you have allowed them to treat you like shit for a decade....

Only you can now establish new boundaries in your relationship with them.

Flowers
CallMeRachel · 27/04/2020 16:35

Yanbu

I have felt very similar about my ds, who at times has put us through absolute hell. He's permanently damaged my MH and is, at times absolutely horrible.

You've done the job of two parents for over twenty years, it's time to draw a line under the facilitation of these two and give them notice to move out.

The more you facilitate them the more they take. They will never learn responsibility for themselves and their behaviour and choices while you are there to prop them up.

Does their father suffer any MH/personality problems? Your kids sound as if they suffer from victim mentality. You'll never change that.

Be very thankful that you have photo journals as evidence of the real childhood they had.

lesleyw1953 · 27/04/2020 16:37

My friend is constantly belittled and abused by her adult kids. One even ripped her off to the tune of £30k and yet like you she bent over backwards to make sure they went on all the trips, had lots of treats. She even cooked separate meals for each of them every night - and she had 7 kids! Did all the housework, turned out in the middle of the night to ferry them round. It's so unfair I could weep for her and cheerfully strangle them. I have no answer - except to put your foot down and walk away. Or at the very least stop them when they whine on and tell them to get out and stay out until they are able to be civil. And ask your dp to tell them a few home truths when they next kick off. Poor you - I hope you find happiness and manage to move on from these spoilt entitled brats

ErickBroch · 27/04/2020 16:39

They are adults. You should move away with your DP to have an easier life. I don't mean cutting them out, but you don't need to pander to their shit. I don't rely on my parents for anything and there is 0 obligation for you to support them as adults.

AndSheSteppedOnTheBall · 27/04/2020 16:40

Is moving away something you want to do aside from the issues with the kids, or is it a Hail Mary?

Just thinking that it might not be a bad idea if there are other reasons to do it. New start for you all, gives a good basis for you to set firm boundaries so they’re not mooching off you and treating you like shit.

Do they know you’re in debt from supporting them?

AntiSocialDistancer · 27/04/2020 16:41

I think rather than dwell on the past, or a possible future - what you need to start implementing today is some boundaries.

How are you allowing yourself to be treated - by communication, in person, in your home.

IT's difficult if it's your 17 year old son living with you calling you mental, but a 27 year old son who has moved back in with you who wants to be rude... I feel like I would tell him he needed to use some more respectful language, or get out.

Anyone that wanted to drag out the past, for blame, or moaning, or fun would be told to give it a rest as you're concentrating on getting through this pandemic with the best mental health possible.

Consider some online counselling.

Eddielzzard · 27/04/2020 16:42

Yes, I second Rousette too. What a nightmare. Time for your happiness now I think.

doadeer · 27/04/2020 16:43

This is so upsetting to read.

How do they react if they know you are hurt about something?

You sound like a wonderful mum, I'm sorry your children don't appreciate you

CeibaTree · 27/04/2020 16:44

@northernsoullover My brother has completely rewritten our childhood my older brother has done the same. It is so weird, no-one can understand why he's done it. Anyway we have been NC with him for years now - at his instigation, but there is no coming back for him if he ever wants to.

OP your children sound awful, but this is not your fault. You sound like you were a fab mum. Enjoy your new life with your partner and slowly start to cut them adrift. It is a desperately sad situation, but you must put your own mental health first now - you have devoted enough of your life to them.

tara66 · 27/04/2020 16:45

I hope you can put yourself first for a change and take this chance of happiness. Your children think they can emotionally blackmail you - don't let them. If you can move away - don't let them know where you are going - cut all ties. Start a new life.

RedLentilYellowLentil · 27/04/2020 16:49

I was going to say exactly what @minettechatouette has already put very eloquently. She is absolutely right.

idontsmokeivape · 27/04/2020 16:50

Please move away with your partner and let your children go. You do not deserve to be abused in this way. Your children sound dreadful. Go NC and enjoy the rest of your life without guilt. Do you think you can do that?

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