To think this stupid woman is the reason lockdown must continue?

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So neighbours at the end of our little lane often have visitors who block the road because they cba to park 10 metres around the corner or pull onto their driveway properly. It’s irritating but fine as they move quite quickly and the neighbours are elderly.

Today neighbours had someone dropping something off but she parked directly her car in front of their house (blocking single lane narrow road completely) and shouted to him through her open car door while neighbour was stood on his doorstep. Fair enough, except DS and I were just going out on our bikes and couldn’t get past. She was well aware as could see us getting bikes out of garage. I assumed she’d move off to let us pass but she didn’t. As we approached she got out of her car and shut the door leaving us just enough room to squeeze through but stood in front of her car inches from us. She could have just stayed in it .

I asked her to move away as we were supposed be social distancing and she did saying she ‘didn’t believe in it’ and we should be like Sweden and let everyone get the virus. I said well I’d rather my family didn’t get it as we don’t actually know how they’d react and I didn’t want to risk them being among the few healthy people who died but she insisted it was all rubbish and she didn’t believe in social distancing .

AIBU to be shocked that arseholes like this exist and think lockdown needs to continue due to them?

@NikeDeLaSwoosh
I like how you say 'almost certainly' 'won't happen to you'.....but it's still a risk and you could be a symptomless carrier spreading it around to the vulnerable unknowingly!

The vulnerable ought to be shielding to avoid this eventuality.

As a few others have said, the point of lockdown was not to eradicate the virus, it's far too late for that, it's simply so that we all don't get it at once and completely overwhelm the NHS. Most of us will get it eventually, unless they completely isolate themselves for the next 1-2 years or so. So OP, if you have the resources and the mental strength, you could probably isolate your family until a vaccine is mass produced, but if you don't then like the rest of us you will have to go back to work/school /nursery etc and you will in all likelihood get the virus at some point.
So I kinda agree with her, although, she's a bitch for blocking your drive. At the end of the day, she moved when you asked her too even though she doesn't believe in the strategy (although she's mistaken, Sweden do have a mild form of social distancing in place) so I'd say she's a decent person who happens to have a different opinion to yours. Are we really going to be a country where anyone with a different opinion is labelled as an Arsehole or other nasty names?? And you seriously thought the comment about scratching her car was appropriate?? YABU, grow up OP, sometimes people have different opinions, they don't deserve to be bullied, belittled and called names.

Wow - Some really harsh responses here OP! I would have thought MN’s would understand you weren’t being literal in blaming the entire situation on that one person, but on the selfish people like her & how she is representative of selfish, entitled “bu**er me, I’m alright Jack” brigade 🤷🏻‍♀️
YANBU in your thinking (I also think you were being ironic in the scratching car bit for those getting all vitriolic!) & I concur.
For those saying we all need to get it or along those lines, good for you. Those of us however who are shielding personally or shielding loved ones don’t feel the same way!
I’m am fed up, frustrated, worried & understand people’s comments about other health issues, domestic violence, mental health, financial concerns etc with ongoing lock down just as much as the next, as well as having shielded kids. However, a little bit of empathy & compassion from us all seems to be too much to hope for I guess!

You’re seriously saying we’re all up for around 700,000 people dying over the next 12 months or so? From what I understand, the intention is not that we’re ‘all going to get it’. Lockdown is being used to delay the spread for two reasons 1. To avoid overwhelming the NHS in order to stop people dying who would otherwise have died without intervention and 2. To buy time to find a vaccine in order to keep the number of deaths down globally. Otherwise what would be the point in searching for a treatment and a vaccine? It’s not just for shits and giggles.

Bloody hell. No we shouldn’t have had to go inside, take our shoes/ helmets off, and wait patiently for a stupid twat to move her car which she was sitting and was blocking the only access point in and out of my road [). She knew we were going out and should have moved her car back where she could have parked it without blocking the road and walked back to chat with the neighbour at her leisure.

Honestly people are deliberately obtuse on here.

I’ll all I like to ridiculous comments such as yours Sparkling.

That's me told.

YABU for wanting to damage her car. Pathetic.

YNBU

“A Journey of a Thousand Miles Begins with a Single Step” springs to mind when I hear of individuals who don’t believe they’ll make a difference. Everyone makes a difference!

The “R” is now below one but this will shoot up again as quickly as it came down if her attitude caught on. At the minute the R is around 0.7, which is still high in my estimation. I wouldn’t like to live with the consequences of “not believing in social distancing” and finding out I’d made one person sick with this killer disease.

PS why can’t we believe that the virus can be eradicated?

New Zealand did it.

I’m so fed up of people saying “we all need to get it”! It’s said so casually. Well, if I get it I stand a good chance of dying, so thanks very much, but no, that’s a hard pass from me. We have no assurance that herd immunity works, so as far as I’m concerned, it’s people like this woman who are causing the problem now. Yes the government should have handled this better, but the covidiots aren’t helping. And no to the Swedish model too. And no one actually thinks the OP really meant to scrape the woman’s car. Sorry, I’m not usually so shouty, but argh!

Really wow.... Wishing someone actual damage has really shown your character... 🙄🙄😳😳🚫🚫 Not good at all

Wow some idiots on here tonight .for the ones who say we should all catch it shall we remind you when you are one of the unlucky ones who end up in intensive care or one of your family..unbelievable the mentality of some people on here.it's not German measles.

And no one actually thinks the OP really meant to scrape the woman’s car.

Given that the OP has repeated the threat, and has a very aggressive posting tone when mentioning the woman. I don't think it's unreasonable to assume that she meant it.

The rude cow! She thoroughly deserved to have my bike dragged along her car paintwork!

and wait patiently for a stupid twat to move her car

@jackie2669 The chances of anyone of a healthy weight under the age of about 70 ending up in intensive care is tiny though, really, really tiny.

Another one here who can't believe the shit being dealt out to OP here. Lots of people on here willing to enable entitled a**holes like road blocking woman to impose their own opinions and standards on others even when blocking their right if way out of thrir own property. Unbelieveable!

@nikedelaswoosh - what statistics are you using?

YABU to be moaning on here about some trivial inconvenience. YABU for not being happy that you had the freedom and time to take your child out for a bike ride when many millions are locked in, or living in absolute poverty through this situation. And YABU after two children were murdered yesterday and countless others are enduring abuse in a caged lockdown hell which is there own home.

*PS why can’t we believe that the virus can be eradicated?

New Zealand did it.*

New Zealand closed their borders and locked down intensely after only a few cases and either just before or around the time they had only one death. They have traced, tracked and isolated with every single positive cause and have tested 2 and 1/2 times more per capital that the U.K.

You don’t get that outcome unless you’ve done that initial response. Realistically the U.K. will have had at least a million cases.

Here is the spread of deaths by age (ONS figures)

Here is more information relating to obesity and Covid-19. TL:DR the risk of dying increases with BMI

To those saying lockdown is about everyone getting the virus, just not all at once, Ie the idiotic herd immunity strategy, no, that would still result in hundreds of thousands of deaths, with no proof yet that any meaningful immunity would even be conferred as a result.
Lockdown is intended reduce the rate of infection sufficiently low, and buy enough time, that a combination of other measures, can be put in place to drastically reduce numbers getting infected- it has been eliminated altogether in places such as New Zealand.
OP is right that those who don’t understand that lockdown is about saving lives (not prolonging the inevitable death of hundreds of thousands) and/or are dismissive of measures, are contributing to the spread of infection.

The OP obviously isn't literally meaning it's just this person's fault-just people with that attitude. This also includes joggers who seem to think that they're not the ones that have to move! Grrr makes me mad. Or people who cross over the road right where you are so you have to cross back over. Selfish idiots the lot of them.

You are totally in the right. Everyone needs to try
social distance for it to work not just some people. As someone else said this is not what Sweden are doing but she will probably say this to anyone that challenges her (and she wants to be challenged) because she thinks it makes her sound like she is making an intelligent thought out decision rather than an entitled and highly stupid Trumpian stance. Yes perhaps you could have waited, or she could have said hang on a minute, but the logistics aren’t the issue here. Not believing in social distancing is like denying that it’s raining today because you haven’t looked outside yet!

@nikedelaswoosh those are mortality rates, not hospitalisation rates. From what I’ve heard many younger people without underlying conditions are ending up in intensive care. All the messages coming out from ICU doctors and nurses all over the world is that they have been surprised by how many young people are coming in with severe and critical cases. As far as I am aware the number of people being hospitalised is still high statistically - 14% of cases are severe and 5% are critical. If you use those WHO statistics that’s nearly 1 in 5 people being hospitalised. Obviously those figures may not be accurate based on the number of cases which are asymptomatic - but saying the chances of young people being hospitalised is tiny doesn’t match the statistics we’re being given.

One of the reasons we had to have a lockdown wasn’t just to stop being dying, it was to stop too many people ending up in hospital at the same time and not getting the care they needed. If only 5% of all cases needed hospitalisation, if our entire population got the virus over the next 6 months that would be approximately 3.3million people needing hospital care. That’s why they built the Nightingale hospitals and tried to increase capacity - because although the mortality rate is fairly low, the hospitalisation rate is very high. And without ICU capacity many people would die who wouldn’t have done otherwise.