To ask whether you would support a further lockdown?

[lola777]

Posting here simply as I don't know if voting can be enabled outside AIBU.

Vote yes- You would support further lockdown of this extent
Vote no- You would not support a lockdown of this extent after the current lockdown period

Personally, I would be happy for restrictions to slowly be lifted after this. Amongst my friends, I feel I am in the majority.

No I don't support another lockdown. People aren't sticking to it anyway. I don't have any outside space and it's really getting to me now. I feel quite depressed today.

I support further lockdown.
I'm happy to give time for the medical and scientific teams to get a better grip on it before we can slowly resume our new "normal" lives. Even then I can't imagine a vaccine will happen before 2yrs.

Yes I would support another 3 weeks or so if that's what it takes.However judging by the increasing traffic,reports from family who have like us observed to lockdown as told ie.one walk a day from home,only shopping when absolutely essential it seems numbers of people staring to ignore it and do what they want anyway.

The time for strictness has passed we should have buttoned down harder Easter weekend it's too late now

After this period is up im not complying anymore. I will be seeing my family.

I think further lockdowns will be necessary but maybe not the whole country. We are doing more testing (not enough but more) so hopefully trends will be more apparent in different areas.Rural areas might be able to carry on to a greater extent than city centres.

But I find the thought of the next two years depressing, looking at other countries they hey have locked down a further city of10million in China and I was reading this

“One persisting cluster in Harbin centred on an 87-year-old man called Chen who had stayed at two hospitals since April 2, four days after dinner at home with his son’s friends, two of whom later tested positive.

By Tuesday, Chen had infected 78 people, with 55 confirmed, though 23 who tested positive have yet to show virus symptoms.”

How do we keep a lid on this when it is so contagious and we don’t have the capacity or the will to chase contacts including testing asymptomatic spreaders?

Yes but with the relaxation of being able to have "contact clusters" of select small groups of family you can see. I'll be doing that anyway.

I would support this lockdown continuing until the government has organised a decent system of testing and contact tracing.
Also as well as enough beds and ventilators, we can’t come out of lockdown until there’s enough PPE for health services going back. I won’t be doing any dentistry without full PPE including FFP3 and it isn’t available yet. I don’t care if it’s non aerosol generating, all dentistry is AGP IMO!
My personal view is that in 2 weeks it will be too soon but end of May/ start of June we will be coming out of the peak and it can be lessened a little.
I would support varying levels of social distancing to full lockdown if needed later in the year. I think it’s likely there will be another lockdown Nov/ Dec/ Jan time.

Neither South Korea or Singapore locked down before us. South Korea still hasn’t and Singapore didn’t do it until after we did... on 4th April. When people said follow South Korea and Singapore they meant testing and tracing, not lockdown. If we’d done that we might not be in lockdown right now at all. Singapore managed to hold off until April despite having confirmed cases as early as January.

What is evidence for carrying on?

We had exponential growth in cases leading to a huge impact on the NHS as well as 20,000 deaths,

That exponential increase has slowed and gone into decline following lockdown

We know that only a small percentage of people have had the illness so the only thing stopping a rapidly occurring exponential growth is the lockdown

We know that although rate of transmission has slowed, there are still many thousands of infected people in society ( thousands, not the millions needed for immunity, not the millions that would get it without any action)

Therefore we know if we remove lockdown we will be straight back to exponential growth and in only a few weeks we will have an overrun NHS again...back to the start

We have all the evidence we need to see that removal of lockdown can not take place until. R0 is below 1 and can be kept there , which in turn requires test and trace , which in turn requires a low number of active cases in society.

If we stay in a few extra weeks now, we stand a chance of avoiding more lockdowns, each would be at least as long as this, because we would have gone backwards.

So if we come out early we have to do everything we have done again and then some more to get to where we need to be

Or we could just do the some more bit

So come out of lockdown and then in a few weeks do everything we have done plus some more
Or stay where we are, and just do the some more bit

I prefer the option with the smallest amount of time spent in lockdown.

Think of it like snakes and ladders. Climbing a ladder is hard work. But jumping down a snake loses you the game

No one wants a lockdown. I personally hate it........but I hate people dying even more. I hate the fact my very small town has lost a head teacher, teaching staff, hospital staff and people who would have had many years left if it wasn't for covid.

I'm happy to live under semi lockdown for however long it takes. And grateful that the UK restrictions aren't anywhere near as strict as other parts of the world.

What it means for me is that I will return to my normal holiday routine, so heading out and about, meeting friends, shopping whenever, going out with the kids. Not all that different to now, but I have been making the token gesture of going out a bit less often. We'll just start socialising in each others houses more. You guys can stay in, whatever makes you happy.

People are saying "we must learn to live with this virus" - well, that's what we'd like to do. But many thousands have already found it is not possible to live with this virus People who are vulnerable should stay home.In the 1950s, we were still shuffling those with disabilities off into institutions. We've moved away from that. But now we want to lock away all those who are above average vulnerability for Covid? Because the lockdown everyone else is coping with now is nothing compared with the exclusion from society imposed by being one of the minority not able to leave their home (not even for daily exercise or shopping trips).

@tinytemper66 I’m a teacher too and also miss my students and routine however also recognise that it’s literally impossible to socially distance within a school/college setting. You’re talking not only about classes of 30+ children in a small contained space for hours but also hundreds running around together. Completely irresponsible to expect that to continue right now.

No I wouldn’t support a further lockdown. It’s been long enough. Considering the economic implications of not getting back to normal, it’s not worth it.

The vast majority of people will be absolutely fine so that justifies it imo. The vulnerable group will still have to shield and stay indoors and there should be financial assistance to help them.

If the don’t want to stay indoors eh 72 year old fit and healthy then they shouldn’t be made to. It’s their life and if they want to take their chances they should be allowed

It’s very difficult. But ultimately, not really.

We need to find sustainable ways to live with this thing. All efforts should be on this at the minute.

We can’t lock down indefinitely. The impact on people on their own, difficult circs, mental health issues is too great. The economy needs to get going again in some form otherwise all of us are fucked.

We need to start phasing back. The least vulnerable as a starting point.

IceCreamAndCandyfloss

The upper years of school children ie 9 plus in many countries have reopened with less in each class rooms, staggered school days so only half the school in at any one time, pictures are on the Internet showing 2 metres between desks, etc

There have been many approaches taken around the world in the countries coming put of lock down.

But also nurseries and schools are open right now in the UK. So reopen for those who need to work and are willing to have their children there.

I'd support lockdown for as long as it is needed.

This won't be a popular opinion but I think we should be in lockdown until a vaccine is available

Feel free to do this yourself if you choose. Frankly it is ridiculous to suggest the whole country does so for 12 months or more. It could be 5 years until a vaccine or there could never be a vaccine. So you think the government is going to pay wages for years and years?

What about cancer screenings, non urgent surgery and routine appointments. Should these be put on hold until a vaccine is found too?

The reality is the virus is dangerous but for a large majority of people it is not serious and people need to be given some leeway to make their own choices about what they are or aren't willing to risk. As long as the NHS has capacity to deal with the cases which do arise.

Also if we go into lockdown again the measures will almost certainly be stricter,such as other countries where no exercise is allowed at all

I think they need to allow certain businesses to work again however with stricter safety measures.

I don’t think we should open pubs/clothes shops/gyms etc as yet.

So maybe a gradual opening rather than allowing everyone to just go wild.

OP you’ve not made it clear which vote is for which option.

I never supported lockdown and of course would not support an extension.

continue lockdown - we need to get this under control - otherwise if lockdown is lifted too early we are going to start seeing hundreds more die - please be patient for all our sakes! It will take time but we will get there!

I’m curious, as I posted previously, what are those saying they won’t support a further lockdown planning on doing? Are you going to protest or riot? I fail to see how you can rebel against it.

This won't be a popular opinion but I think we should be in lockdown until a vaccine is available

This is fricking ridiculous, if you don’t mind me saying.

We might never find one.

In the meantime, the country needs to eat.