Some people enjoy patronising and depressing others

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Clearly everyone is having a different experience of the current situation. It seems to me from the posts here and elsewhere that MN is full of people searching for threads from people either asking genuinely when others think the restrictions may be reduced, or people expressing mental or emotional.distress due to being locked away, sometimes alone. The pattern is the OP posts, there are a couple of sympathetic/in the case of lockdown speculation dovish opinions then the Depressor swoops, usually with a formulation along the lines of:
If you think these restrictions will be lifted anytime soon you are a naïve fool. Christmas will be cancelled and things will never fully return to normal

In the threads expressing mental distress their standard formulation is a variety of:
FFS pull yourselves together. It's been (insert number) weeks, how the F do you think people coped in the war the. All you are being asked to do is stay in and watch Netflix

There seems to be a remarkably large number of people among this cohort who claim grandparental involvement in WW1/2 and have a partner/sibling serving as a front line NHS worker. These depressors seem to scour MN looking to pounce on people expressing povs like the above.

We had a woman jump off a bench out into the road today as I walked with the DC along the pavement, and then she called us 'shocking'- she wanted us to walk out into the road so she could sit on the bench!

We hadn't even got near her and she made a big fuss of dragging her bloke into the road to tut at us!

Great parenting that isn't it, to teach your kids to walk into the road...
It's that kind of thing...

Sit on the bench next to the pavement with 2m around her I mean. Umm

The oddest one I have had yet was this bloke going on about how anyone using stiles and gates should open them using a leaf or their foot (sounds tricky) - I mentioned that if everyone washed their hands and didn't touch their face, that should be OK.

Big mistake, he started pm-ing me to explain further that the leaf was to stop passing on the virus, he couldn't understand that I meant we all had a responsibility for our own actions and people using gates / stiles would be able to wash their own hards after.

@Teateaandmoretea neither have I. I have a couple of auto-immune diseases and use the NHS a fair bit, between GP appointments, hospital clinics, prescriptions, etc. I show my appreciation by turning up to my appointments, on time, and thanking whoever is dealing with me. I'm not wanting to sound smug and look at me doing it right, that's not what I'm saying.
Like PPs have said there are other (more boring, less look at me!) ways to show your appreciation. I feel like everything has been dumbed down and it's so frustrating and cringe-worthy

Oh- another funny one

Woman going on about how she wanted to walk her dog on the canal towpath but other people kept running or walling past her so could they stop as it was where she walked her dog.

No thought that she could walk somewhere else if she found distancing difficult along the narrow path. Of course, others were to blame!

Yes

@Orangeblossom78 I have had the same experiences. People tutting and glaring because I won't stand in the road while they have all the pavement. You won't catch anything from me in the billionth of a second while we share the same bit of pavement. People like this fuck me right off! If they are that terrified they should stay in maybe?
I walked around the park this afternoon, and I overtook a couple who were walking slower than I was. As I walked in front of them I could hear her saying that they shouldn't have reopened the park, because people weren't following the rules. Some arbitrary rules she had made up. I don't want to go out anymore because these fuckwits are everywhere!

I must confess we go out and clap because my stepdaughter (ITU nurse) has asked us to. My thoughts were the same as some of yours but it would be really unkind not to do it when specifically requested.

I don't want to go out anymore because these fuckwits are everywhere!

I feel the same, but I think that could make it harder in future...so I am making myself. But we also need to think of general things like not encouraging children to step onto roads. Roads which may have cars on them. Which might be a bigger risk than corona.

How in Earth people will cope if things get busier with roads and pavements I don't know.

@Teateaandmoretea I haven't been out either. I just turn up the music and moan about the fireworks scaring the cat. I've already been told on another thread I shouldn't go out at I cough with hayfever so I'll also sound like a performing seal if I get going!

I go out to clap. A couple of my neighbours are NHS cleaners and they like it. DS2 loves it. But we need to clap as we had a game of bingo up the back passage and now will all surely die.

Or do I get to nominate someone I know to die instead.😈

We don't really do the clapping here, but it is right in the city centre...I do hear some though from a distance.

@Teateaandmoretea

I don't go out for the clapping - I haven't been out yet and I don't intend to. The noise and fireworks turn one of my dogs into a panicking wreck, so I spend my time trying to keep him calm. If it's making NHS frontline workers feel good for a moment, then great. But I'd like to think that they'd prefer not to have people taking part simply because they have been shamed and bullied into it by dementors.

Incidentally I love your username! It remind me of my lovely MIL (sadly no longer with us), who was a wonderful no-nonsense woman obsessed with tea. She made Mrs Doyle look like an amateur. I can't pass a tea pot without being reminded of her.

Uuuugh there is a ♟ who is popping from thread to thread posting hysterical stuff. A few posters have pointed out that it is specifically not against the rules. Even linked to and copy and pasted the gov guidelines.

They accept it but they just cannot be beaten. So what if it's allowed?? We're in lockdown people!!

People are dying. Those people are dying on their own!!!! Or with ONE person with them. If your child is in hospital. You are only allowed one parent. If your mother is dying. Only one person. None of your children would see her if she was to die. You all think that's ok?!? The hospital I go to. Isn't allowing any visitors in icu. So those people are dying alone. Funerals are only allowed 5 people at the max.

And then a thread with a mother seriously struggling, contemplating suicide and has had thoughts of taking her children with her. Clearly very unwell and needs support NOW. And that same poster is still at it, still posting hysteria.

It's like their tunnel vision is stopping them from seeing that for many people in this world covid is not the most threatening thing right now.

And of course they have admitted they are not going out and have neighbours doing everything for them.

Fucking clever little virus we have that can distinguish a neighbour out on official care business and leave them alone, eh?

It's like their tunnel vision is stopping them from seeing that for many people in this world covid is not the most threatening thing right now.

Yes, very much so.

we had a game of bingo up the back passage

This sounds alarming!

A close second to Dementors are glory helpers. Do gooders who need praise and validation doing something that didn't need doing but putting people at risk.

Nightmare.

we had a game of bingo up the back passage

Try more fibre in your diet!

Good points re: the parkdementors. For almost all these people, what they are displaying is an excrescence of unhappiness and powerlessness plus this really really tragic trait of wanting to pull others down in order to relatively elevate yourself. The reality Is human beings are social animals who need each other and suffer terribly in isolation. This is NOT the same as saying you think there should be an immediate loosening. It feels to me like something which needs addressing every bit as much as the R rates is the toxicity which the response to the lockdown is unleashing in people. This seems, along with mental health to have gone largely overlooked in the North Korean style atmosphere of compulsory competitive NHS worship and desperate desire to find fault that currently seems to be prevailing in people's minds.

A close second to Dementors are glory helpers. Do gooders who need praise and validation doing something that didn't need doing but putting people at risk.

Yes! The type of people who put up Facebook statuses which outline some awful situation where disaster was narrowly avoided solely as a result of our hero(ine) swooping in to save the day / drowning kitten / lost child / avert imminent disaster. Often accompanied by pictures outlining the noble deed and many comments from breathless admirers lining up to congratulate them on their selflessness

Culminating in the local rag picking up the story and a picture of the protagonist doing their aww shucks anyone woulda done it routine. And you just know that in the next breath they are instructing the photographer to only go from the left side as that's their best angle

Classic dementor behaviour is also the vitriol Gordon Ramsey has been subject to in Cornwall since the lockdown . Absolute witch hunt!

Giggling at the game of bingo up the back passage.

The other thing I've noticed is that they get annoyed if you point out that lockdown can't go on as it has it's own negative health outcomes, which is pretty much all of them apart from coronavirus deaths, which at some point will be overtaken by lockdown deaths. And they also appear to believe there's no relationship between health outcomes and the economy, and want to boycott any business still open, (apart from the ones they like, obviously). I do genuinely wonder about how of them will be able to mentally unlock themselves, or whether we will actually have a percentage of people who, in the long term, are too frightened to leave the house

I also found it a bit frightening how a few weeks ago educated people were sharing that bizarre story about a Chinese/Thai/Japanese doctor/mystic/wise person advised that drinking hot water could kill coronavirus. There were loads of bizarre theories flying around but that one stuck out as it was so obviously total bollocks.

There was a story I saw somewhere with people being upset that the Range was still open and selling hot tubs that made me think of this thread!

If you Google something called FUD that is quite interesting. Fear uncertainty and doubt. It's often used in marketing to sell.things or PR