Some people enjoy patronising and depressing others

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Clearly everyone is having a different experience of the current situation. It seems to me from the posts here and elsewhere that MN is full of people searching for threads from people either asking genuinely when others think the restrictions may be reduced, or people expressing mental or emotional.distress due to being locked away, sometimes alone. The pattern is the OP posts, there are a couple of sympathetic/in the case of lockdown speculation dovish opinions then the Depressor swoops, usually with a formulation along the lines of:
If you think these restrictions will be lifted anytime soon you are a naïve fool. Christmas will be cancelled and things will never fully return to normal

In the threads expressing mental distress their standard formulation is a variety of:
FFS pull yourselves together. It's been (insert number) weeks, how the F do you think people coped in the war the. All you are being asked to do is stay in and watch Netflix

There seems to be a remarkably large number of people among this cohort who claim grandparental involvement in WW1/2 and have a partner/sibling serving as a front line NHS worker. These depressors seem to scour MN looking to pounce on people expressing povs like the above.

more and more of them want to rip you apart because you don't seem panicked or terrified enough to appease them

Yes. It's like some kind of validation-seeking: their being scared requires other people to be scared. Or it's a kind of outsourcing of feelings or something?

Also there's a lot of people who have been unhappy for some time themselves and resent everyone else not being unhappy too. They've been quietly seething for years about all those people going out for meals and enjoying their jobs and getting married and having parties and whatever else. They're absolutely loving a world where that's all been ripped away from people. Like the Daily Mail letters page "this generation needs a war and some rationing to toughen them up!!!" crowd - they've always felt it's deeply unfair that anyone anywhere is having fun, and they feel balance has been restored to the universe now other people are sharing their misery.

I’ve seen some completely shitty behaviour on social media - a huge argument last night after someone posted that they’d seen their neighbour having multiple visitors everyday and had been reporting it to the police but the police weren’t doing anything about it. The neighbour’s daughter saw it and posted that the multiple visitors were carers for her terminally ill mum.

See what I don't get in situations like that, is if people are genuinely concerned, if they genuinely feel like it's a risk, why not just ask?
You're more likely to get an answer than taking pictures, posting shit on Facebook that puts people's backs up or anonymous notes through doors (the irony there is funny actually, happened to me because I went out twice two days running, but that someone left their house to post a note into someone else's house having a go about them leaving their house unnecessarily.....) Or even reporting to the police, because the police aren't going to give you feedback (are they? Surely not unless you're à victim of a crime?)
I can only think it's because they know they might be wrong, and just simply cannot accept that fact. Makes it worse in the long run because their attempt to appear virtuous and do their right thing usually makes them look like a twat.

@GoldenOmber yes totally agree!

And now there are even more of them around.

Don't you think I would love to go and stand at the end of my Mum's garden for a five minute chat? Of course I do! But I don't because if I catch this virus it will kill me! I can't believe how selfish some people are.

Well since you've just admitted the only thing stopping you is your own (often statistically irrational) fear of dying... how can you not see that people without that fear don't have anything to stop them

But it really is all about me. If I have to suffer then everyone else does. Anyone not suffering as much as me needs a good dementoring. And they are loving that their views are being validated all over the place now. It makes them bolder and increasingly more illogical.

I've got a big shop in for my elderly parents, we lost my sister recently and they're devastated. I am planning to drive down to the next town and drop it with them this afternoon, and have a short chat in the garden. Wish me luck!

Argh!

I'm driving myself insane with these bitter furlough hating people. I try to stop looking but it's a weird addictive self punishment for me.

Does anyone know a website blocker that works on android? I had blocksite but it stopped working, it kept saying I need to turn on accessibility when I had already turned it on.

Should I start a thread in flouncers corner?

@Freeasabirdy oh, I can bear a grudge for a very long time. I‘ve blocked her and she can fuck right off

I just wonder whether these people ever think about the consequences of their behaviour

I live in a very small place full of nosy bastards, if you fart at 6pm everyone will know about it by 6:30pm.

Does the business owner acting like an utter arsehole on social media ever stop and think that his posts might have long term repercussions on his business

The neighbours rushing to report each other will still have to live next to each other

Are they so caught up in the drama and trying to get the best photo of the queue outside B&Q or the most likes on their “oh my god, I saw a camper van” post on a FB community group that they forget we’re not going to live like this forever?

Or do they really think that shaming Sandra for dropping some Easter eggs for her grandchildren on their doorstep is reasonable?

Willitneverend sorry for your loss. Hope you got lots of non essential comfort food for you and your parents.

@Notverybright noooo just flounce yourself off on your legally permissible trip to Tesco and buy yourself a Curly Wurly on your furlough pay. My treat, since I'm still paying tax. scrounger

You can thank me in the fruit fields when my business finally succumbs to the end-of-life-as-we-know-it. We're all headed there eventually.

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The problem is that an anxious person comes on looking for reassurance that what they are doing is Ok and then they are met by a Dementor, it is a really really bad combination. It kinds of makes me think of CBT in reverse!

see, this was all going swimmingly until someone mentioned personality disorders,
as if all miserable joy-vampires who are mean on the internet have one.

i have a personality disorder and i’m not a cunt.

people who are mean on the internet may have issues, but let’s not start armchair-diagnosing people with PDs.

wait. this post might possibly be construed as gloomy and mean, even though it isn’t. i may have created some sort of internet wormhole. sorry about that.

Chockablok I do like curly wurlys...

And yes, the furlough threads!

I’m on furlough, my whole company is on furlough. Technically the company I work for can operate, but we are closed as restrictions on travel mean our customers can’t get to us. We have loads of work booked it, we just can’t do it right now.

I’m sick of reading about how lazy I am. I’d much rather be at work to be honest. And no, I’m not going to pick fruit.

My daughter actually applied for a fruit picking job locally and heard nothing back. She was supposed to be taking her A levels this summer so has no school work to do and is bored.

I'm driving myself insane with these bitter furlough hating people. I try to stop looking but it's a weird addictive self punishment for me.

Me too 🙄
I just can't understand the mentality behind this movement to hate people who had absolutely no choice in the circumstances they find themselves in.

I think some of them genuinely believe there isn't going to be an end to it and we should all be hermetically sealed in our houses forever. They dont like the concept that other countries are easing their lockdowns as it doesn't tie into this narrative.
Laughed wryly at this @Willitneverend but then read your subsequent post. I also lost my sister not too long ago so I feel you. Sending

There was a classic comment a while ago. Someone said they bought something non essential with their weekly shop (perhaps a curly wurly 😆) and they got told by a dementor “I am literally shaking and sobbing reading this. LITERALLY. Do you not realise how many people you are putting at risk?”

I mean.... really? Shaking and sobbing? Just a tad dramatic

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On a post about schools going back, someone wrote “are you on glue” in response to a poster saying schools will be back next month.

I love how saying “are you on glue” is thought to be a witty, cutting Mumsnet response.

I agree with PP that a lot of people here are very unhappy people.

Ah the fruit picking threads, they're a hoot aren't they.

"all those lazy furloughed workers should be made to work in the fields for the money I'm paying in taxes for them"

Well Hyacinth there's a few flaws in that argument.

1. I'm furloughed and guess what I'm being taxed too so there
2. The T&Cs of my furlough state that I can't do any paid work for the duration..and
3. There's several million of us...are we all expected to rock up at the farmers place, unskilled around some heavy machinery? That's going to end really well and A&E will be swamped.

was that a poster called Hearhoovesthinkzebras
I can’t remember! I can never remember people’s names but I remember being 😮😮😮 because it was so ridiculous

Golf courses.

OPEN THE FUCKING GOLF COURSES.

Canada is doing it and they're well known non contrarians. My DPs life would improve 500% by being allowed to whack a ball three miles over a hilly outcrop with a similarly be-v-necked compadre two metres to the east.

It's the most socially distant outdoor pastime available to humanity, and now that he's trained himself out of pathological hand shaking for the love of christ LET. HIM. OUT.

I like this thread. But as a furloughed worker FLAUNTING my lazy arse status I would do...

I should be out picking fruit, instead I'm on here.

It’s a bit off naming posters isn’t it?
I mean I have a huge grudge list but even so.

The school threads are definitely bringing out the dementors in force.

They would rather the schools were closed for the next 18 months than even entertain the idea they might be back in June.

I'm sure there was a thread that even posed the idea of Mnetters never sending their kids back to school but I might have imagined it!

Thanks @Delta1 and @Notverybright.

I think the dementors are particularly awful at the moment, because we're having to organise funeral stuff through social media so I can't turn it off.

And obviously you need stuff to keep yourself going when you're bereaved, and then you log into Facebook and see people posting stupid memes about "if you go out you should really pick which one of your family members you'd like to die".

I'm finding this thread a godsend.