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Other deaths being recorded as Coronavirus

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Annamaria14 · 21/04/2020 09:07

Hello, my friend is a nurse. She told me that she is questioning the deaths which are being recorded as Coronavirus. She said that she had a patient dying of Cancer, but it was recorded as Coronavirus

I saw another nurse here on mumsnet say the same thing. She said that she had a patient that was dying of cancer, but they recorded it as Coronavirus.

What do you think?

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Thisisworsethananticpated · 21/04/2020 22:41

They could be lying to.....control us?

Except it’s a GLOBAL fucking pandemic

The whole world right ? And exactly what is the gain to ‘controlling us’ ?

Sheesh

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Annamaria14 · 21/04/2020 22:48

@thisisworsethananticipitated.

Well, controlling us certainly hasn't benefitted us. Has it.

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EmeraldShamrock · 21/04/2020 22:49

emeraldshamrock what about the familes and friends of
People who have committed suicide in this time.
People who are severely depressed in this time
People who are not getting vital hospital appointments and hospital services in this time

What has any if that got to do with a stupid meme made up crap of a hospital falsifying death certs.
Is anyone claiming the health service are falsifying the deaths of those on your list?

Thisisworsethananticpated · 21/04/2020 22:53

Well, controlling us certainly hasn't benefitted us. Has it

Well , I don’t have COVID and not does my close circle (I obviously know people who have lost people)

So it’s clearly worked a bit surely

Had we not locked down ....

TheClaws · 22/04/2020 07:40

Annamaria or Leaannb? - seems you were well and truly handed your hat. I do hope you understand a little better now, though.

Mimishimi · 22/04/2020 08:27

Actually, if you look at the powers that police have been given in all these lockdowns, they are very similar to the enabling laws in Nazi Germany. The holocaust was a global conspiracy, millions of others died too. It's actually NOT stupid to think it can't happen again - to those who would ask why a government would want to shut everything down and ruin an economy you are assuming that they care about the economy of people who actually work. They do not - many lie and steal as modus operandi.

CuriousaboutSamphire · 22/04/2020 09:10

I've come back twice to read that ^^

Still have no idea what it means!

TheClaws · 22/04/2020 09:44

Mimishimi Honestly? Where do they breed people like you? I never knew were so many before this. They’ve just come crawling out like cockroaches.

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Annamaria14 · 22/04/2020 09:46

Thank you @Mimishimi!

The power that police have been given during these lockdowns, is not okay.

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Annamaria14 · 22/04/2020 09:47

@TheClaws you do know that people have independent thought right?

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Annamaria14 · 22/04/2020 09:48

I think @Mimishimi is saying that people were lied to about the holocaust at the time. They were told by the Government, that jews were being sent to work camps. It was only after the war that people knew what was really going on - that millions of jews were being murdered.

The Nazis were in government, so it is another example of a Government lying to people on a huge scale

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AvalancheKit · 22/04/2020 09:50

I do not believe doctors and coroners are conspiring against society.

TheClaws · 22/04/2020 11:03

it is another example of a Government lying to people on a huge scale

No, it really isn’t. That would mean all governments across the globe are in on this supposed sham, along with the medical professionals on the frontline, the politicians, etc. etc. It is ridiculous. This is a copybook pandemic. All that is different is the amount of social media we have available - enabling the easy sharing of conspiracies like yours.

LockdownLucy · 22/04/2020 11:06

There are figures for death rates weekly compared to last year and if I remember correctly they're currently coming in at 6000 odd per week higher than last year so regardless of what's on death certificate covid is having a profound effect and several hundred related deaths a day isn't a recording mistake.

Lemonblast · 22/04/2020 11:22

‘This man had no nutrition for over a week. He had none of his usual medicarions for over a week. His family was at bedside waiting for him to die, his death certificate was already filled out except for date/time and then they changed it to a Covid death....Makes no sense whatsoever’

Worriedmum if you believe that a registered nurse is under no obligation to report her concerns about a situation as described by Leann, then I sincerely hope that you are not a registered nurse.

Nursejackie1 · 22/04/2020 11:43

Nurses are often contacted by doctors to ask their opinion/ confirm what is going in the death cert if they had more contact with them than the doctor writing it.

If the patient has died of covid 19 but has terminal cancer it is correct to put covid 19 as cause of death secondary to cancer.

People often die from eg pneumonia due to being at risk from diseases such as cancer, MND, HIV etc.

Before Coronavirus in my experience the pneumonia would go on as cause of death secondary to the disease.

Nothing has changed.

Hingeandbracket · 22/04/2020 11:53

OP - the Nazis were killing the Jews as part of a twisted ideology.

What do you think all world governments are gaining from this "control" exactly?

I don't expect an answer as you have dodged all the questions people are asking you about your posts.

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Annamaria14 · 22/04/2020 11:59

@hingeandbracket the Nazis were a government, so they are a vey useful example to point out that governments can be corrupt, nasty, and do not have anyone elses interests at heart.

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DappledThings · 22/04/2020 12:02

that governments can be corrupt, nasty, and do not have anyone elses interests at heart

Well yes, obviously. I doubt anyone would dispute that all of that statement can be true. Which still in no way answers hingeandbracket's question about what you think the government are gaining from this.

LilacTree1 · 22/04/2020 12:05

“What do you think all world governments are gaining from this "control" exactly?“

They’ve found out how to get the population to do as they’re told

Their “voluntary” apps will lead us to China

The economic crash will be great for jrm and such like but then taxes go up and wages go down for everyone else.

Mittens030869 · 22/04/2020 12:19

But no one is disputing your point that governments frequently don't act have their citizens' best interests at heart. I would imagine that the majority do in their own interests rather than in the interests of their country. You don't need to keep harking back to the Nazis, there are plenty examples of such governments today, for example China of Russia.

Fortunately, in a democracy, a government does have to act in the interests of their citizens to a certain extent so that they will stay in power, especially when there's a well functioning opposition in Parliament.

What you've failed to address is just what motive would any of the world governments have in making up a pandemic of such monumental worldwide scale? Assuming for the sake of argument that you're right, don't you think they would have made an altogether better job of it? All they have succeeded at, at least in this country, is making themselves look out of their depth.

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Annamaria14 · 22/04/2020 12:22

But then why does everyone follow the UK government so blindly?

Why don't people hold them more accountable?

People give total power of their lives to a small group of selfish, corrupt elite people.

I can't wait until the world evolves to the next stage

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HaudYerWheeshtYaWeeBellend · 22/04/2020 12:27

Why are people even giving these idiots the time of day Hmm

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Annamaria14 · 22/04/2020 12:28

@haud are you talking about yourself? I am glad that you said it, before I had to!

Also, why are you here?

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Mittens030869 · 22/04/2020 12:29

I'm watching PMQs right now. They're certainly not following the government blindly; they're asking very tough questions quite rightly.

Meantime, speaking for myself, I'm currently recovering from a nasty virus that just happens to have the same symptoms of this apparently non existent COVID-19 virus. Funny that.