Other deaths being recorded as Coronavirus

[Annamaria14]

Hello, my friend is a nurse. She told me that she is questioning the deaths which are being recorded as Coronavirus. She said that she had a patient dying of Cancer, but it was recorded as Coronavirus

I saw another nurse here on mumsnet say the same thing. She said that she had a patient that was dying of cancer, but they recorded it as Coronavirus.

What do you think?

Put a little thought and intelligence into what you are saying

I've got Alanis Morrisette on the phone.

@iklboo that one was quite good

Well, the fact that none of the community or nursing home deaths are counted in numbers would more than compensate for that if it was true. Tinfoil Hat score 3/10.

My relative who works in the NHS (A&E) said the same thing about her hospital - in the absence of testing any person with a pre-existing condition and respiratory symptoms within 14 days of death is having Covid-19 added in the cause of death. However in the community GPs are being a bit more cautious.

Your relative who works in A&E ?
Are they the same person as the OPs ‘friend who is a nurse’

@lemonblast. That is right lemonblast. Because no one on here possible knows anyone at all working in hospitals.

Strange that, seeing as the NHS is a national service with services in every town and city across the UK.

The official figures have always been "people who died who tested positive for Covid 19", without any suggestion that they all necessarily died from it.

Annamaria where did your nurse friend disappear to ? Am so disappointed they have left the thread?

@lemonblast who? I am not really following your immature talk anymore. You seem to be repeating the same thing over and over.

"Nobody could possibly know a nurse" people!

@Lemonblast

The other poster is @Leaannb , who is a regular poster. Obviously anyone can pretend to be anything online but I have no particular reason to doubt that they are indeed a nurse.

Apart from the fact that they and the OP claim that death certificates are being falsified and they have ‘nobody’ to report that too?
Totally legitimate. Absolutely

@lemonblast eh what? I didn't say that anywhere. Why would I say I had no one report it to. I never said that I was a nurse.

Oh my god! Is anyone else still on this thread. Who would actually like to have a discussion

@user127819 that is interesting, isn't it.

@Annamaria14 I'm not sure why it's interesting. PHE are obviously aware that not everyone who dies with coronavirus dies from it, and are phrasing the announcements to allow for that. I don't see any conspiracy. If anything, very early on when the first deaths occurred, they really emphasised how significantly unwell a lot of those patients were with other conditions, rather than letting us believe they just died from coronavirus.

If anything it’s the other way round. I saw a graph earlier for deaths in care homes (think it was in the times). There’s a sudden massive jump from end of March onwards, yet only about 1/3 of them are official Covid deaths.

Annamaria read your thread title love.
You have systematically ignored questions about your ‘friend’ and their allegations.
The other poster you talked about in your OP appeared on this thread with a frankly bullshit story about not having anyone to report a falsified death certificate to.
An RN has very CLEAR lines of communication and reporting of issues.
You haven’t engaged in any meaningful debate or conversation on this thread, you haven’t been able to counter any of the arguments put to you but seem to thrive on the misinformation and shock factors that other conspiracy theorists are pedalling.

Thankfully though there has been lots of really good information shared on this thread by knowledgable posters and I think it’s fair to say your premise and that of your ‘nurse friend’ has been more or less blown out of the water.
Good luck in your future debates on the subject

@lemonblast I don't know how to argue with crazy.

You said that another poster on here is "my nurse friend", despite another poster on here telling you that no, the lady you accused of being "my nurse friend" is actually a regular poster on here

Sick of these bullshit a friend of a friend scenario memes. It is annoying and upsetting to families of lost love ones.
Family members know when their loved one has Covid19 even if they also have cancer by their rapid deterioration.

@emeraldshamrock what about the familes and friends of:

People who have committed suicide in this time.
People who are severely depressed in this time
People who are not getting vital hospital appointments and hospital services in this time?

... maybe this is why nurses aren’t allowed to write death certificates. Because they don’t understand it.

@Annamaria14 your hospital consultant DH, what's his speciality?

@Maxnormal I think that you meant to direct that at anothet poster

*another

@Lemonblast you are being disingenuous. It is hardly a nurse's role to challenge what a doctor writes on a death certificate. They would be highly unlikely to report someone for what is basically a different interpretation of the cause of death on one occasion. They can still make an observation that in that individual case they didn't agree. It's clearly not evidence of a conspiracy but people do like a bit of excitement.

@OP I'm not sure what point you are trying to make...are you suggesting the government has invented covid along with other governments around the world in order to delay people's cancer treatment?

I don't trust them at all but there's no motivation at all for this. The Tories don't want to control people. Controlling people costs money. Tories just want to get rich.