DD says she needs a chairdrobe because it's gross to put worn clothes in the wardrobe

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or into drawers. And I reply if they are clean enough to be worn again they should go in the wardrobe.

I might not practise what I preach but I am right. Aren't I?

Ikea do this amazing chair with a really tall back designed to hang things on. It's great for worn clothes. It's called Ragrund.

What I don't understand is people putting clothes on the floor.
At the very least hang them somewhere.

I’m with your dad, worn clothes don’t go back into the wardrobe.

*dd

get a floordrobe like everyone else.

Surely leaving them in a pile on the floor or chair is not particularly clean?

Surely leaving them in a pile on the floor or chair is not particularly clean?

Well exactly

I'm with you OP. If they are clean enough to wear they are fine to go in a wardrobe. What is this weird thing about anything that has been worn or gone outside being 'dirty'? Outside isn't dirty intrinsically. However, I wouldn't be that worried about your daughter's room - leave her be 😘

The chair is vital!

I have to tell my DH that if the clothes aren't clean enough to go back in the wardrobe then they go into the washing basket. If they aren't dirty enough to go in the wash, then they go back in the wardrobe. There is no in-between. Drives me mad!

"Chairdrobe" makes me want to go and crush some aluminium cans. And kick a little bit of plaster off the kitchen wall.

Chairdrobe better, also...moths! They like the smell of sweat and dark places.

I wonder if the back in the wardrobers do the same with other things. "I've only had a drink of water from this glass, no lipstick marks , so i'll pop it back in the cupboard"

^Obviously not, I’d wash it.

I wouldn’t put it on a table or counter for an unspecified length of time to use later either.

Which is what the chairdrobers seem to be advocating.^

Actually I sort of do this to a limited extent. Most things go straight in the dishwasher, but if I've had a glass of water or just lightly used a chopping board I might leave them next to the sink - with the idea that if I need to use them again in an hour or two I can just do so without washing them up. They go in the dishwasher at the end of the day.

I wouldn't put them back in the cupboard!

"Chairdrobe" makes me want to go and crush some aluminium cans. And kick a little bit of plaster off the kitchen wall.

How about floordrobe?

Team chairdrobe here. Ideally I'd prefer always to wash every stitch after one wear apart from nightclothes, but environmental concerns and the fact that I normally have an adult child living with me (more than doubling the washing load) mean I don't usually - slightly different just now for various reasons because of current circumstances. But psychologically I'd feel the totally clean clothes in the wardrobe were contaminated by the others, just in case there might be a speck of dirt I hadn't noticed, and I also don't 100% trust my own sense of smell. So I fold things neatly on a chair and re-wear them at the first opportunity, maybe work clothes at the weekend when it doesn't matter.

I love my DH but it is mega grim when he gets a shirt that he has previously worn out of the wardrobe and starts sniffing the armpits to check that it is clean enough to wear again. It shouldn't be in the wardrobe!

And he used to drive me absolutely potty putting the newborn baby's used clothes (often with sick and poo stains that he hadn't noticed) back in with the clean clothes because he thought he could get another day's wear out of them. That really upset me.

I can't stand the chairdrobe thing, either put it back in the wardrobe or the wash. I refuse to have one in my bedroom.

Christ on a bike how hard is it to just put bloody clothes away or in washing bin!! Some people are just lazy bastards, I'd have a shit fit if clothes were strewn all over my sofa or armchair in my bedroom it would look like a giant mess!!

Ah my tribe has arrived! I knew the tide would turn and agreement reached that I am right and DD wrong

I wouldn't put them back in the cupboard!

No ones doing that!

It's not 'hard' to put clothes anywhere. It is wasteful and unnecessary to wash things that don't need washing.

Obviously shirts, t-shirts etc are washed every time (the exception might be if worn just for an hour or so). But trousers, skirts and cardigans generally do not need to be washed after every wear.

It's not about the 'weird obsession with dirt from outside' (agreed, it's weird), it's the opposite; about the dirt from your body - which smells and attracts moths.

I’m firmly anti chairdrobe and I’ve never had moths in my life!

I’m also still not understanding the ‘clean enough to wear, but dirty enough to ‘infect’ clothes hanging alongside’ paradox that this concept hangs off.

And yes, I do the same thing with mugs and water glasses. I have a tea mug for the day (separate coffee mug, obvs) and a water glass for the daytime. They go in the dishwasher at the end of the day.

We'd run out of glasses otherwise and a glass for every swig of water, with the accompanying excess water, fuel and washing chemicals, is madly wasteful. It's one of those 5* hotel habits, adopted at home, that you only really see on Mumsnet.

Well, I have encountered it in one or two people's homes. The kind I feel uncomfortable and unwelcome in, where your glass is gone before you've finished drinking, your newspaper binned after your unspokenly-allotted 1.5 hours reading opportunity. No thanks.

I don't think it's so much that they're dirty enough to make other clothes smell (though if you want a wardrobe or drawer of lovely fresh-smelling clothes, it is bound to taint, or at least reduce that). It's more that moths are hyper-sensitive, so an amount of sweat imperceptibel to people, will attract them into your wardrobe. Where they might then find tastier, more vulnerable clothes, like wools and silks.

Ok. Like I say I have literally never had moths. So no reason to instigate a messy chairdrobe.