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To be sick of 'if you voted for the Tory government then you're a hypocrite for clapping'

276 replies

ScarletFever · 16/04/2020 22:26

I've seen this a lot on social media, and I didn't vote tory (I voted anyone but tory) but I feel that people are clapping to show they are thankful for the nhs firstly, but also for the other front line workers, the carers and cleaners and bin men and everyone else who is doing their bit.

I'll probably get down voted to hell, but the sanctimonious 'oh you're such a hypocrite ' is just so wearing

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CrapAndInfirm · 17/04/2020 17:01

Facebook last night about a woman who lives near me who hasn't come out of her house once to clap the NHS and somehow it got to the point where she ended up commenting and apologising for her behaviour. Public shaming absolutely works and it needs to be taken seriously more as a political weapon to submit most of the working class up North who betrayed their ideals and voted Conservative.

Only read to here and could sit on my hands.

I have nhs workers in my close immediate family. Nurses, care home workers, I also have family in the military and who work for the police too, they all know how proud I am of every single one of them, I show it all year round and pre pandemic.

Thankfully they aren’t as judgmental as you and understand people show their thanks in other ways than clapping on a Thursday evening. I’m sure their colleagues wouldn’t be impressed with your public shaming to force people to do it either. Some of my family haven’t clapped because they’ve been at fucking work looking after sock people or spending precious time putting their children to bed before heading off for another shift. Did you not know possible to show thanks and gratitude without banging a pan at 8pm on Thursdays?

I’m from the north east and from a working family, my community is allowed to think and vote how they choose. Who the fuck do you think you are? They are free people with their own minds and live in a democracy. You must think a lot of yourself if you think the northern working classes have to “submit” to your way of thinking via social media shaming. Are you the thought police or something? I have friends and family with a variety of views and political thoughts. I can still be friends and get along with them because I’m not a judgmental arsehole who think everyone has to submit to my way of thinking.

CrapAndInfirm · 17/04/2020 17:02

And any spelling mistakes isn’t because of my thick working class background. It’s because I’m having cramps in my hands and struggling to type!

DioneTheDiabolist · 17/04/2020 18:19

OMG Kathy.Shock

MegUffin · 17/04/2020 18:47

KathyBrigg

What's your opinion on the NHS in Wales that's run by Labour...

It's Utterly fucking shambolic

The distortion of the left is unbelievable

bombaychef · 18/04/2020 00:13

The torys have eroded the NHS and looked down on manual workers and immigrants doing very vital work. These are the very people that keep the country functioning. That's one thing that I have seen much more valued in other countries with less social snobbery..

MigginsMs · 18/04/2020 00:16

YANBU

but the Tory voters have got what they voted for, funny it turns out it wasn’t all about Brexit after all.

MigginsMs · 18/04/2020 00:17

Sorry meant YABU

MigginsMs · 18/04/2020 00:20

My sister works for the NHS, I have clapped a few times and I always vote Conservative (well aside from around the time Brexit as I’m a Remainer).
We already pay away almost half of our combined salary in tax and NI so while I’d happily see NHS staff paid more through cost saving measures, I don’t want to pay any more tax to fund pay rises. And that for me is the bottom line. Continually raising income tax isn’t the answer and isn’t fair on those who pay a huge percentage already.

And there we have it all in a nutshell. Want the benefits of the NHS but not to pay for it.

Wait til you see how much you (and all of us) will be paying now to bail us out of this fuck up

MigginsMs · 18/04/2020 00:25

At the end of the day votes have consequences

If you voted Tory, you voted for the dismantling of the NHS and for the monumental mishandling of this crisis by the government. This is what you voted for. If the government have blood on their hands, so do all the people who voted for them. We get what we vote for and voting for fuckwits has serious consequences, who knew?

And you can be outraged and annoyed all you like, it doesn’t make it less true.

KathyBriggs360 · 18/04/2020 01:25

@MiggingsMs I'm so glad somebody stepped in to speak to truth. I am astounded at the sheer number of Tories on here who have the gaul to show their faces after their votes have essentially killed thousands of people in this country. I hate this country, it is full of people who pretend to care about the NHS but vote for parties that tear down it's Institution and bully people who want to make sure that everybody is paying our heroes the respect they deserve.

This is Trump and Johnson's world we live in now. No compassion, no kindness, just hatred for dem immigrants and anybody who wants to look out for the vulnerable in society.

DioneTheDiabolist · 18/04/2020 04:12

...but the Tory voters have got what they voted for,...

No one has got what they voted for. Pandemic was on no one's radar manifesto last time we went to the polls.

ChardonnaysPetDragon · 18/04/2020 04:23

Oh the irony.

KathyBriggs360 claiming compassion after that post.

CurrentBun1981 · 18/04/2020 04:33

I voted Tory and didn't clap whilst I walked past all the clappers on my way to work the other evening. They were all too busy hitting pans with wooden spoons to notice anyhow.

JudyCoolibar · 18/04/2020 07:59

@KathyBriggs360, when you decided to bully your neighbour on Facebook, did you stop to consider whether she might be one of the "vulnerable in society"?

Beckyboom · 18/04/2020 08:14

I have never voted Tory and never would.

Publicly humiliating someone on Facebook because they don’t take part in non mandatory clapping doesn’t make you a left wing hero, it makes you a horrible person.

Raaaa · 18/04/2020 08:17

Would Corbyn actually do a better job? All the parties are as bad as each other

Dumbie · 18/04/2020 08:49

@KathyBriggs360 you ought to be crying with shame about 'calling out' your neighbour.

Disgusting human being that you are. A real life bully. Disgusting. And proud of yourself for doing it. Vile vile vile. Be ashamed of yourself.

I voted Labour. I haven't clapped. I support the NHS.

I have fragile mental health because of this lockdown. Had a neighbour done this to me I'd be crippled for weeks.

saraclara · 18/04/2020 09:02

No compassion, no kindness

Where was yours, @KathyBriggs360? Publicly humiliating someone is neither kind nor compassionate in my world.

Dumbie · 18/04/2020 09:10

Op yanbu. I've commented on a few posts about this.

People did not tick a box to decimate the NHS. They ticked a box to vote for a party that aligns best with their view on a whole host of issues. They probably also considered whether they think the party can even deliver on their promises or whether they might fuck it all up a little bit more.

RufustheLanglovingreindeer · 18/04/2020 09:35

KathyBriggs360 claiming compassion after that post

This

I still think that particular poster is on a wind up...she can’t possibly be THAT much of a bully and proud to announce it

Now im having doubts

GCAcademic · 18/04/2020 10:43

No compassion, no kindness

What the last few months have shown me is that the people who preach at others to "be kind" are some of the biggest bullies out there. They compound their bullying with gaslighting through exhortations to "#bekind". I really wish you could muster some self-awareness @KatyBriggs360, summon some of that kindness you sanctimoniously preach, and apologise to the poor woman you've shamelessly bullied and publicly humiliated. It would also be helpful if you could recognise that this vicious moral grandstanding, denunciation of ordinary members of the public, and demands that we all think and act as a conformist monolith is turning far more people away from the Left that it is recruiting.

CurrentBun1981 · 18/04/2020 11:18

It's all very well to make all these grand claims like like labour do, but the money has to come from somewhere. Usually they overspend, crash the economy, and then tax the fuck out of everyone to try and resolve it.

EnthusiasmIsDisturbed · 18/04/2020 11:24

KathyBriggs360 what do you think of my NHS colleagues who vote Tory

And no they don’t do private too

Are they not dedicated to the NHS or are they secretly in with the government to bring it down (while working ridiculously hard and taking risks at this point in time with their work)

I would say the majority of my colleagues think the NHS needs to desperately change not be saved as it is

Northernwarrior · 18/04/2020 11:29

Nope because I saw endless videos of doctors and nurses literally begging the country not to vote Tory. The people who voted didn’t give a shit then but now they are clapping and posting on social media about how nice they are for clapping. It’s quite sickening really.

You are obviously feeling guilty op.

Smileyaxolotl1 · 18/04/2020 11:53

I missed the point where the election was just a vote on the NHS.
People vote for a party for a myriad of reasons. There might be plenty of Tory Voters who don’t agree with their Policy on the NHS or for whom it wasn’t the biggest priority. I doubt all Labour voters agreed with all their policies either.

And although I will probably get the post deleted for by this I don’t believed that Kathy is real. I have seen rabid left wingers come out with such apparently unironic gems as “tories are such horrible evil bigots, I hope they all die”.
But to bully someone the way she did and then comment about kindness- surely she must be having a joke at our expense?

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