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To be sick of 'if you voted for the Tory government then you're a hypocrite for clapping'

276 replies

ScarletFever · 16/04/2020 22:26

I've seen this a lot on social media, and I didn't vote tory (I voted anyone but tory) but I feel that people are clapping to show they are thankful for the nhs firstly, but also for the other front line workers, the carers and cleaners and bin men and everyone else who is doing their bit.

I'll probably get down voted to hell, but the sanctimonious 'oh you're such a hypocrite ' is just so wearing

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TARSCOUT · 17/04/2020 08:58

Only read OP post. I don't see this anywhere else but on MN. I voted Tory and I don't clap but only because my NDN is trying to get kids to sleep, the man just over the road is very ill, it upsets my nervous dog but most of all because its bloody naff (as.seconded by many NHS staff on MN).

Salmonpasta · 17/04/2020 09:01

Are arseholes really shaming people on social media for not clapping? Who the fuck do they think they are?

pictish · 17/04/2020 09:04

I haven’t clapped either.
Week 1 - didn’t know about it.
Week 2 - forgot about it.
Week 3 - was put off, bemused, dismayed etc...by self-congratulatory tone surrounding the clapping on social media, given the overwhelming Tory vote in the General Election. Any excuse for a good virtue signal.
Week 4 - over it now.

Plus I live in a small semi-rural road out of town. I don’t think any of my neighbours went out. Certainly didn’t hear anything anyway.

purpleboy · 17/04/2020 09:07

@KathyBriggs360
I'm not sure I've read anything so vile. You should be thoroughly ashamed of yourself. I'm sure your whole Facebook group is embarrassed for you and thinking what a twat you are to bully someone, but to be honest if that's your attitude they probably already know it anyway.

1forsorrow · 17/04/2020 09:14

Kathybriggs no but if they were shamed on social media then they would probably think twice about voting Tory again. I made a post on Facebook last night about a woman who lives near me who hasn't come out of her house once to clap the NHS and somehow it got to the point where she ended up commenting and apologising for her behaviour. Public shaming absolutely works and it needs to be taken seriously more as a political weapon to submit most of the working class up North who betrayed their ideals and voted Conservative.

Who the hell do you think you are? We live in a free country and it is none of your business who claps and who doesn't. People being forced or "shamed" into clapping makes the whole thing meaningless and very unpleasant.

For your information I haven't clapped and I won't you can try and shame me as much as you like I couldn't care less. Two of my kids are on the frontline, one a nurse and they asked me not to support this, they don't want to be rewarded with clapping, they want equipment. Why not put your energy into putting pressure on the govt to sort that out?

I hope that poor woman is all right, you have no idea of her mental health issues, will you be bragging if this pushes her over the line and a tragedy happens?

Just one more thought, do you think all the people ignoring social distancing and enjoying the social event of the week might be spreading the virus, do you think the NHS staff will really appreciate their efforts if they arrive in their ICU?

GabriellaMontez · 17/04/2020 09:26

KathyBriggs you may have some followers in your bully girl facebook group but most people on there will be silently cringing at your behaviour.

We're allowed to vote for any party we like in this country.

The arrogance of presuming you know what ideals 'Northern voters' hold Shock

ChelseaCat · 17/04/2020 09:27

YANBU. There is more to politics than the NHS.

ChelseaCat · 17/04/2020 09:28

(I’m a frontline NHS worker)

Hagbeth · 17/04/2020 09:33

There are lots of people like Kathy in Sweden. They stalk people, shut down anyone with a different viewpoint and even take pensioners to court for complaining about mass immigration, make sure people lose their jobs for voting wrong etc. It has become a country populated by “Stasi” like bullies. It’s the number one reason I’ll never return there.

HoffiCoffi13 · 17/04/2020 09:36

I made a post on Facebook last night about a woman who lives near me who hasn't come out of her house once to clap the NHS and somehow it got to the point where she ended up commenting and apologising for her behaviour

Are you actually fucking kidding? Absolutely vile behaviour.
I don’t clap for a number of reasons. Mainly that from 7.30-8.30 every night I have a standing phone call related to my work, and DH is also putting all three of our young DC to bed at that time. If that wasn’t the case, I still wouldn’t clap. I have showed my appreciation to the NHS in a number of (financial) ways which I believe are a hell of a lot more useful than a fucking clap.
I am so glad I don’t know you, or anyone like you.

HoffiCoffi13 · 17/04/2020 09:40

And your point about ‘Northern ideals’... Unless you live in a place where no one ever leaves, and no one ever enters, how do you even know she’s northern? We live in the midlands. DH is Spanish but raised in the Wales, I was born 200 miles from here. Even if your politics should be defined by where you live (which is bullshit in itself), people move!

WhatATimeToBeAlive · 17/04/2020 09:43

KathyBriggs360 nicely summing up the caring, sharing left there. Now that's a hypocrite.

OneandTwenty · 17/04/2020 09:53

KathyBriggs360
I didn't shame myself at all, I did my part every Thursday evening and I am proud to call myself a supporter of the NHS.

HAHAHA
you clapping is not 'doing your part". It's nice, most of us do, but really it not doing much.
Are you so deluded that you think your little clapping makes any difference to anything? How dare you abusing people online, I hope you got reported, online bullying is not acceptable or remotely legal.

You would make me embarrassed to clap if you were my neighbour. And most of us do a bit more than clapping to help out. Well done for embarrassing yourself in public though, and not only on an anonymous forum.

Cosmodian · 17/04/2020 09:54

@ScouseQueen no but if they were shamed on social media then they would probably think twice about voting Tory again. I made a post on Facebook last night about a woman who lives near me who hasn't come out of her house once to clap the NHS and somehow it got to the point where she ended up commenting and apologising for her behaviour. Public shaming absolutely works and it needs to be taken seriously more as a political weapon to submit most of the working class up North who betrayed their ideals and voted Conservative.

How awful

TwentyViginti · 17/04/2020 09:56

@KathyBriggs360 Well, aren't you just lovely! you do understand the clapping is voluntary, right?

The poor woman you shamed being made to feel she had to apologise???? You could have sent her into anxiety and depression by your ridiculous policing and posturing on SM.

Oh well, at least you've shown yourself up on your FB for the nasty, self righteous little bully you are.

Clavinova · 17/04/2020 10:34

Refusing to join the EU in purchasing PPE

A well-oiled machine...

"the Netherlands recently discovered that 600,000 face masks imported from China were defective, Belgian media reported that 100,000 masks coming from Colombia were useless and even contain "animal faeces".

"Additionally, Germany has lost nearly six million masks at an airport in Kenya" ...

Snugglepiggy · 17/04/2020 10:45

Just occurred to me -not that it's anyone's business how someone votes - but Captain Tom is amazing.Rightly praised as a shining example of humanity.Giving the NHS charities an enormous boost. An inspiration.Cheering us all up amongst all the crap and negativity,and nastiness from one poster in particular. I'm assuming unless he had been a life long labour voter ,and he may have been ,or not -again none of our business would he be a hypocrite?

Porcupineinwaiting · 17/04/2020 10:47

Anyone getting involved in public displays of gratitude for the NHS whilst voting for a party who seeks to dismantle it needs to give their head a a wobble

Beautifully put.

Clapping is cheap. Real support ' - in terms of preparedness, PPE, decent wages etc - costs money, money that Tory voters just didnt want to give, and still wont want to give when this is all over. Do you think you can pay for the lives you've cost with a bit of clapping and cheering?

englebertsausagedog · 17/04/2020 10:49

@KathyBriggs360 I made a post on Facebook last night about a woman who lives near me who hasn't come out of her house once to clap the NHS and somehow it got to the point where she ended up commenting and apologising for her behaviour. Public shaming absolutely works and it needs to be taken seriously more as a political weapon to submit most of the working class up North who betrayed their ideals and voted Conservative.

Why didn't you just put her in some stocks and throw rotten fruit at her.Hmm
You sound like an awful bully.

Smileyaxolotl1 · 17/04/2020 10:50

snuggle
The vitriolic left would say he was an evil hypocrite and wants people to die if he voted Tory (not saying anyone on this thread would as it’s been fairly measured and generalisations rather than insults have been stated)
On a thread just after the election I got told that my 80 year old father who had just spent 2 weeks working 8 hour days collecting for the British Legion as a volunteer was clearly a selfish cunt as he had voted Tory.

hamstersarse · 17/04/2020 11:12

Maybe we should introduce a 'morality test' into the admission criteria into ICU?

Obviously if you don't tow the lefties line, you ain't getting in

Deathgrip · 17/04/2020 11:14

I'm assuming unless he had been a life long labour voter ,and he may have been ,or not -again none of our business would he be a hypocrite?

He’s actually done something though, regardless of voting history. If those clapping actually intend to do something constructive when this is over to actually help the NHS (voting for a party who intends to fund it is the easiest way but there are others) then great. The point is that clapping, in the absence of actually recognising the disgraceful situation NHS staff are in because of our government and deciding to do something constructive about that, is utterly meaningless.

GhostofFrankGrimes · 17/04/2020 11:21

A well-oiled machine...

Indeed....

U.K. Paid $20 Million for New Coronavirus Tests. They Didn’t Work.

www.nytimes.com/2020/04/16/world/middleeast/coronavirus-antibody-test-uk.html

TitianaTitsling · 17/04/2020 11:34

On a thread just after the election I got told that my 80 year old father who had just spent 2 weeks working 8 hour days collecting for the British Legion as a volunteer was clearly a selfish cunt as he had voted Tory. Bloody hell @Smileyaxolotl1, on one hand I hope the mods deleted that post, on the other l hope it was left to stand to show the vileness of the poster.

Willow2017 · 17/04/2020 12:07

KathyBriggs360
Who the fuck made you the authority on what others so?
What despicable behaviour. You would be right at home in the Gestspo. Nobody has to obey you in who you tell them to vote for nor whether to clap for any of the multitude of 'causes' doing the rounds just now. Get over yourself.
I dont do FB for anything except school, selling etc but if i did i certainly wouldn't be apologising to some tin pot Hitler it would be a big "fuck off you sanctimonious busybody" from me.

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