To think this doctor really really hates mumsnet

[Ikeasucks]

Glad he’s got his priorities right in the middle of a pandemic. He’s really, really want to see mumsnet closed down and has a fair following - even been on telly

Wow, willis you've accidentally managed to trap yourself in another trans related thread again! What are the chances!

Ah.. he’s one of those men... the ones who don’t like MN because it gives the little lady ideas

He doesn't like it because it empowers women to say no to all his male friends.

Wow, willis you've accidentally managed to trap yourself in another trans related thread again! What are the chances!

It must be like Groundhog Day chez Willis. And in all those other virtual lifetimes!

Nauticant & mummyoflittledragon - adding the salt post production, as it were, is just not the same! But I'm now motivated to persevere with my experiments (mostly involving increasingly fancy salt).

Very happy to support a dairy that know which 50% of bovine mammals produce the milk, butter & cheese.

What a twat!

Isn’t this the man who doxed a fellow NHS employee and was investigated by the GMC as a result?

I believe that is the case.

The good news here is that those who are not regulars on Feminism can see the empty arguments, derailing and throwing around of baseless accusations that are used exhaustively and exclusively by the TRAs.

Plus the positively unhinged comments about ordinary women using their critical thinking skills being ‘scum’ and ‘animals’.

They are such a lovely bunch

this man hates women which is really odd as he came out of one.

Fucking hell he really got piled on on Twitter didn’t he? Is the tide really turning?! 😯

& yeah, it's amazing how Willis keeps totes accidentally falling into threads she finds objectionable & then can't somehow find her way back out!

I can see that many abusive men would hate MN

Indeed they do. Those people include the likes of Harrop et al, trans rights activists and men's rights activists.

I realise it's not the same PurpleCrowbarWhereIsLangCleg but it might reduce your pain a little. However, if you want to hold the line on this point I fully understand.

Wow, willis you've accidentally managed to trap yourself in another trans related thread again! What are the chances!

Well, to be fair, it's got nothing to do with AIBU and one can easily click on and then think FFS lol

Human's can't biologically change sex, that's fact - there's a fine line between "but we're just saying the truth" and flat out saying males cannot be female though when trans women are legally recognised as women and have a right to live their lives as women.

But if we cannot flat out say males cannot be females, which is using terms for sex what can we say in your opinion? And when can we say males can never be females without ever being transphobes?

And while they can live their lives as transwomen and hopefully peacefully, they are never female and under the equality act, as you probably know, there are exceptions that can be made for access.

Scum? Animals? The other day a trans barrister was claiming the 'adult human female' definition of womanhood was a symbol of hatred to trans people akin to a swastika. MN deleted that post but imo it should have stayed up.

I find that man very disturbing, I blocked him on twitter a long time ago over his misogyny. I can't remember if it was his tweets that sent me back to mumsnet

He’s a common or garden misogynist.
He uses ‘trans rights’ as an excuse to shit on women.
If you don’t agree with him he tries to ruin you.

It's worth noting that Dr Harrop has been accused of transphobia himself.

Dr harrop is a gay man. He is same sex attracted, and has expressed discomfort at the suggestion that if transwomen are women, and transmen are men, he should be happy to treat transmen (with vaginas) as potential sexual partners. He doesn't, and said so. He faced the twitter anger of Rachel McKinnon as a result of that.

"Your sexual preferences are transphobic" - as endorsed by many trans-activists.

Well. Trans cows, that’s something new.
Might sign up to MN Premium.

Yes, this is the man who believes a straight man who says he won't date trans women is a transphobic bigot. While he (a gay man) said he won't date trans men.

When challenged on this, conversations have tended to go along the following lines...

UGH STRAIGHT GUYS WHO WONT DATE TRANS WOMEN ARE TRANSPHOBIC BIGOTS

So presumably you'd date a trans man then, whether they'd had gender reassignment or not?

NO BECAUSE IM GAY, OBVIOUSLY

But wait, you just said straight men who don't date trans women are bigots?

YES TRANSPHOBIC BIGOTS

But you're a gay man who won't date trans men?!

STOP PICKING ON ME YOU BIGOT

I've used the caps to represent the foot stamping and all round toddler tantrum tone.

Did this Dr Christian really claim that marrying 12 year old girls off is fine if it's another culture? What the hell? I live in Rotherham and I've seen the Joys of how other cultures treat young girls, known a few who suffered myself. Wonderful girls who are permanently scarred because of the abuse that was allowed to happen to them by the perpetrators and the men in positions of authority who were supposed to safeguard her. would be absolutely livid at that.

Harrump is a self righteous pompous prick with a Messiah complex and a massive blind spot for his own misogyny.

Dr harrop is a gay man. He is same sex attracted, and has expressed discomfort at the suggestion that if transwomen are women, and transmen are men, he should be happy to treat transmen (with vaginas) as potential sexual partners

I dunno.
From my point of view
I'm completely straight and heterosexual. I remember seeing pics (think it was on here?) not sure where but saw a pic of a trans woman and a trans man side by side in the same kind of argument as this.
It was the transman's looks I was initially attracted to.
Not the trans woman's.
So yeah, if he did say that can see why that'd maybe be an issue ah complicated lol

Wotcha - the subject was sexual partner - not "who you are initially attracted to" - Dr Harrop does not see it as complicated. - Dr Harrop said he was not attracted to transmen.

Nor is Little Owen Jones, a gay man, who threw an actual fit on Twitter when asked if he would consider a trans man with a vagina as a sexual partner - started shouting "homophobia" immediately - and rightly so.

But the problem is, both Dr Harrop and Owen Jones see no problem at all at shouting "TERF!" at women who describe women as "adult human females" and reject the idea that women can have penises.

Although there was that star labour counsellor - I forget his name - somebody Green? - who said he accepts transwomen are women for everything except for relationship purposes. At least he's honest I suppose.

So HE gets to reject the mantra that transwomen ARE women - when it suits HIM - but women trying to protect women only spaces do not. They are abused as Terfs and bigots.