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To think this doctor really really hates mumsnet

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Ikeasucks · 16/04/2020 16:00

Glad he’s got his priorities right in the middle of a pandemic. He’s really, really want to see mumsnet closed down and has a fair following - even been on telly

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vivariumvivariumsvivaria · 19/04/2020 09:42

Bought Cravendale - had no idea it was from a farmer's co-op, so, this is brilliant.

Been buying Skyr for a while now, it's lovely. Will convert to Arla products where I see them, and actively look for them.

Take that, Flora.

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EmpressLangClegInChair · 19/04/2020 06:14

Arla Skyr? Great. I’ll start using it for my overnight oats.

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MoleSmokes · 19/04/2020 06:10

SunsetBeech - that's worrying! Harrop says he is working from home dealing with calls to NHS 111 - that can't be as an initial call handler so presumably as a "Clinical Advisor".

Meaning that someone could call NHS 111 and Harrop could be advising them to pay for private health advice and services from an online company run by a pair of doctors who have both been suspended by the GMC and are not permitted to practice in the UK. Helen Webberley had already been barred from practicing in Wales before she was suspended by the GMC.

The Webberley's say that they use (employ? contract?) legit medics to provide clinical services but presumably the Webberley's are responsible for supervising those medics.

Why refer someone to the Webberley's, rather than to an NHS service or to an uncompromised private service in the UK?

WTAF is he even thinking of conducting clinical consultations and providing medical advice in public on social media!?

"i’d advise having a conversation with someone at GenderGP to see whether there is a safe compromise that can be reached, based on your previous results, current dosing, individual risk factors etc. - i’m sure they’d be open to discussing some alternative options with you."

archive.vn/L8A0P#selection-5815.0-5815.272

What the GMC says

"14. You must not use publicly accessible social media to discuss individual patients or their care with those patients or anyone else"

I hope he does not have any "Conflicts of Interest" or that would be another breach of ethics

"19 When you post material online, you should be open about any conflict of interest and declare any financial or commercial interests in healthcare organisations or pharmaceutical and biomedical companies."

www.gmc-uk.org/ethical-guidance/ethical-guidance-for-doctors/doctors-use-of-social-media/doctors-use-of-social-media

Advice from the Medical Defence Union (provider of medical indemnity insurance for doctors):

"Doctors and social media"

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Italiangreyhound · 19/04/2020 02:02

@Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g that's interesting about the X and Y chromosomes.

This article is also quite fascinating. www.wired.co.uk/article/coronavirus-death-men-women

"Women mount stronger immune responses than men – except during pregnancy to avoid attacking and rejecting the foetus growing inside them – which could be another plausible explanation for the emerging picture of male susceptibility to the Covid-19 disease. In a series of experiments in 2016 and 2017, microbiologists from the University of Iowa infected male and female mice with the coronavirus that caused Sars, and as had happened in humans, male mice were more likely to die. But when the team removed the ovaries from females, their death rates shot up suggesting that the hormone oestrogen somehow protected them from Sars."

(Just a reminder they are talking about mice, not people!)

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LockdownLucy · 19/04/2020 01:46

Wow. Reeks of misogyny and control. Hopefully he can find something else to occupy him on Twitter soon.

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SunsetBeetch · 19/04/2020 01:32

Young people! Get your meds from a disgraced GP (Dr Webberley of Gender GP).

Parents! Your instincts are not always right.

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GenderWang · 18/04/2020 19:48

VickieEadieofThigh and MigZig those dirty diggers down under have discounted that theory, for the time being at least.

archive.is/9cyGk

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R0wantrees · 18/04/2020 19:26

I already had some Arla Skyr but shall be savouring it this evening (with nuts, bananas & honey)

news.arlafoods.co.uk/cooperative/milk-price

"We take great pride in our democratic structure which represents farmer owners across Europe. Farmers are elected as district representatives at a local level as well as being elected onto Arla's Board of Representatives. Farmer members of these boards define the pricing model which is used to determine the farmgate milk price on a monthly basis.

As well as being paid monthly for the milk they provide, once a year, Arla distributes its profits between all of its farmer owners in its supplementary payment, known as the 13th payment. The 13th payment is equally distributed to all farmer owners; proportionate to the amount and quality of milk they supply rather than based on their equity investment in Arla."

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FlaviaAlbiaWantsLangClegBack · 18/04/2020 19:24

Lol at minced veal. If he thinks the women's rights threads are a den of vipers can you imagine him trying to justify that on one of the more hardcore Corona threads? Grin Carnage.

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MoleSmokes · 18/04/2020 19:18

I've ordered some Arla Skyr specifically because of Dr H. Looking forward to it now I've heard it's comparable to clotted cream! Grin

Me too! I thought Skyr was that acidic type of yogurt but if it’s an excuse to eat clotted cream for breakfast then I’m in Grin

I thought it was "that acidic type of yogurt" too! I have Crème fraîche with just about everything so I will give Arla Skyr a whirl for a change Smile

www.arlafoods.co.uk/brands/arla-skyr/

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DocHolliday · 18/04/2020 15:46

Minced Veal?
Let him eat Scouse.

He's not on the front line, in fact very far from it, and nice and safe.
No harm in that per se, but don't keep pretending that you are a hero Ade, and try and get freebies from White Stuff for yourself. Shameful really.

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MIgZig · 18/04/2020 15:44

Hence the 'bee' on Ancoates twitter profile. Gosh I am slow to catch on. Must be Big Steph.

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R0wantrees · 18/04/2020 15:07

He's taking time away from the frontline to drive around Liverpool looking for minced veal, this is like performance art

Or an attempt at distraction (which may have been used before) to generate some outrage which can be used as an examplar.

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Binterested · 18/04/2020 15:01

Good Lord. I hate the lockdown police and their insistence that we may only leave the house if we have a leg falling off but posting that on Twitter is - a little tone deaf. Jolyon and the fox style. Something else these two egotists have in common.

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DrudgeJedd · 18/04/2020 14:58

He's taking time away from the frontline to drive around Liverpool looking for minced veal, this is like performance art Grin

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Summersunandoranges · 18/04/2020 13:31

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Ereshkigalangcleg · 18/04/2020 12:22

Thanks R0

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nauticant · 18/04/2020 12:20

Another "transphobic" belief is that children who go through puberty and experience a great deal of identity-related distress are on the whole better off receiving counselling to help them through this difficult time instead of being given potent and damaging drugs that lead to the children growing up to be sterilised adults lacking sexual function.

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3883755-my-15-yr-old-trans-son-is-going-through-menopause-and-i-m-so-proud-of-him

As you say "transphobia" means all kinds of things these days.

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R0wantrees · 18/04/2020 12:19

twitter.com/DrRanj/status/1045267421509165056

(there are many issues for women'ssex-based rights & Safeguarding of children & Vulnerable Adults with the Stonewall 'info' that Dr Ranj Singh was endorsing & signposting)

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DickKerrLadies · 18/04/2020 12:19

Mumsnet isn’t transphobic but a lot of posters are.

Hi Surroundedbyeediotics - What sort of thing do you mean by transphobic? I only ask because as you can see there's been a bit of confusion in this thread. One person said that it wasn't transphobic to say that people can't change sex but that it was transphobic to say that males can't become females. Like I say, confusing.

Thanks.

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Michelleoftheresistance · 18/04/2020 12:15

Mumsnet isn’t transphobic but a lot of posters are.

By asserting that female is a material reality, that female humans have needs specific to that material reality and should not automatically be regarded as support humans, and that there are limits as to how far someone's personal choice of identity can be prioritised over other people's rights and best interests.

Whatever. If you want to call that meaningless but derogative names crack on.

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Binterested · 18/04/2020 12:01

I’m not anyone phobic but I don’t think people can change sex. Dr Harrop thinks anyone like me is transphobic. Means less than nothing these days.

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Surroundedbyeediotics · 18/04/2020 11:59

Mumsnet isn’t transphobic but a lot of posters are.

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Ereshkigalangcleg · 18/04/2020 11:53

Dr Ranj is also a bit of a twat. What is it with these tv drs?

I knew he'd said something at some point but don't know what it was? Was it about MN?

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R0wantrees · 18/04/2020 11:28

Christian Jessen is looking like a completely dangerous quack now, isn't he?

6 August 2018
Safety concerns over websites selling prescription drugs
By Dr Faye Kirkland
BBC Panorama
(extract)
England's healthcare regulator is calling for a change in the law to protect patients using online doctor sites selling prescription-only drugs.

It comes after a BBC Panorama investigation exposed safety concerns relating to websites using doctors from companies based outside England.

The Care Quality Commission said these websites could be "dangerous".

Currently, it can only inspect websites employing doctors contracted by companies in England. (continues)

Prof Helen Stokes-Lampard, chair of the Royal College of GPs, told Panorama: "I'm horrified to see some of those sites that you showed me, to see that you click on the drug first, and then you go through the consultation, and just how easy it was to circumvent the process.

"This isn't right. It's not safe. It has to be sorted."

Celebrity doctor link
Panorama has discovered another UK-based online doctor site using the same Romanian loophole.

UK Meds cannot be regulated by the CQC because it hires doctors to do consultations and prescriptions through its sister company EU General Practitioners in Romania.

The site, which has already made £1.7m profit since it was set up in 2016, is promoted by celebrity doctor Christian Jessen.

Panorama showed the site to Gino Martini, chief scientist for the Royal Pharmaceutical Society.

He said: "As a professional body we do not support promotion of prescription-only medicines.

"What I saw on that website was direct promotion to patients, so it is something we wouldn't support and is something we should really raise with the drug regulators as not being appropriate."

After Panorama wrote to Dr Jessen and UK Meds, the videos featuring him were "temporarily unavailable" before a "clarification notice" was added saying: "This video is for information purposes only. If you have any specific concerns about your health please consult your GP."

UK Meds said the changes to their website were nothing to do with Panorama.

A spokesperson for Dr Jessen told Panorama he was engaged by UK Meds to present short information videos about various medical conditions and that he does not prescribe medication, nor does he endorse a specific product, service or brand." (continues)
www.bbc.com/news/health-45084555

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