To feel awful for Boris

[YouDoYou18]

A few people I know have said some awful things like ‘it serves him right’

I didn’t vote conservative, and to be honest I’ve never been a big fan of BJ himself.. but Christ do I feel awful for the poor man.

He must have thought it was going to be relatively easy, brexit was almost over and we just had to get through the last little bit and then the world fell into one of the biggest disasters in recent history...

He’s got to balance trying to save a big percentage of the population with making sure they have an economy to return to when this is over, he’s got to pull unprecedented amounts of money from thin air to support everyone through this time, everyone thinks they can do a better job and then to top it off he catches the virus himself and ends up hospitalised!

He just can’t catch a break! Whether you like him or not surely I’m not being unreasonable in feeling pretty bad for the guy?

The Tories however chronically under funded the NHS and the key reason for needing lockdown is because the (woefully underfunded) NHS cannot cope.

Complete bollocks. No country in the world maintains their health service at pandemic levels all the time. You’d literally have entire fully-staffed hospitals standing empty all the time, at incredible cost.

Don’t believe me? Then explain why almost every country in the world with the virus has gone into lockdown - have all their health systems been underfunded by the evil Toriiiees?

His strategy when we had 6 weeks or more to prepare was to go around shaking hands with Covid patients and tell everyone to spread it as quickly as possible. He's an idiot! Plus he and his cronies has battered and bashed the nhs and social care sector for years. He's done his utmost to threaten the health of the nation and you feel sorry for him.

You are officially a Covidiot!

@iggly
Study from the kingsfund - satisfaction with the NHS was far higher under New Labour than before or after. Look at the red line between 1999-2010 when Labour was in power.
www.theguardian.com/society/2019/mar/07/satisfaction-with-nhs-falls-to-lowest-level-for-a-decade

@Seriouslyastounded hilarious. You do know parliament is filmed don’t you and therefore there is proof of him cheering. He’s handled the Pandemic appallingly and I have no sympathy for the man. He had plenty of warning the shit was going to hit the fan but he just carried on, shaking their hands, pretending it was just flu and bumbling around being an arrogant racist idiot as per...

I don't feel remotely sorry for him as PM. I really don't understand why people buy into this nice, hapless old buffer schtick that he led peddles. Ask one of his old employers, www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2019/jun/24/boris-johnson-prime-minister-tory-party-britain, the right-wing former editor of the Telegraph, so no socialist apologist. One particular quote, 'his premiership will definitely reveal a contempt for rules, order, precedent and stability' . He also goes on to say the only people who really like him are those who haven't met him.

If he had compassion for others then I might find it in me to have some compassion for him. But he's consistently shown a lack of empathy for others, that prevents me from feeling any for him. As for praising the nurses that looked after him when he voted happily to block pay rises for them, it's weasel words as usual. Judge people by their actions, not by their flowery words.

Obviously I wanted him to pull through his illness. But in his capacity as PM when he's consistently supported austerity while spunking huge amounts of cash on a disastrous Brexit. No thanks.

But no surprise given his disaster as London mayor, with the water cannon, garden bridge and cable car debacles. All costly style over substance projects that will mark his premiership too.

He’s in the middle of a shit storm but he backstabbed a lot of people (and 49% of the country) to get there so he’s right where he wanted to be.

I’m sorry he’s been ill but that’s about it.

Is your name Dominic Cummings and are we to expect another rash of these ‘I didn’t vote for Boris but..’ posts that appeared on Facebake a few weeks ago?

No country in the world maintains their health service at pandemic levels all the time. You’d literally have entire fully-staffed hospitals standing empty all the time, at incredible cost.

Yes, but the NHS was under-funded and unprepared, even taking that into account. For one thing there were 44 000 nursing vacancies - a situation made worse by fucking Brexit. You're surely not claiming that the Tories looked after the NHS well? If our problems are on a par with those faced by other countries, why are we on track to have the worst outcome in Europe to this virus?

Are you saying I should feel sorry for him because all he wanted to do was 'Get Brexit Done' and now he has to deal with a global pandemic instead?

(Perhaps he could have voted for Theresa May's deal if he was so keen to 'just get through the last little bit'. For some reason, he wasn't as bothered about that.)

Doesn't it work out well for Boris anyway, WRT Brexit? I thought not having time to negotiate and us crashing out without a deal was what Boris wanted? Perhaps your sympathy for his big Brexit plan is misplaced, OP.

I feel sorry for anyone who has been seriously ill but no more for Mr Johnson than for anyone else. In fact I have been more concerned about Michael Rosen who I think is still ill. And all front line workers who are dying. Often because they can't get the PPE.
I feel angry that the Government have almost run the NHS to the ground before this crisis. I'm angry that so much money has been wasted on Brexit (which was not almost over before this crisis The really hard word to get trading deals was just starting.)
I don't blame him for getting ill or say he deserved it but I don't feel sorry for him for decisions he and his Government have made. And I refuse to make him into a good person who deserves our goodwill just because he has been ill. There are too many really good people who are getting ill and dying

I don't give a shit about him. He and his merry band of twats have caused so much death and trauma with their austerity bullshit.

He took it on. He could have run away like his mate Cameron.
It can't be easy but he knew what he was signing up for.

I'm glad he's recovered but my god could he have made a worse job of it so far? I listened to Macron's speech to the French yesterday - full of detail and humility - and wondered how we got to a place where a narcissistic joker like BJ is our PM.

Maybe try checking a few facts from time to time? France has a higher death rate per capita from the virus (234 deaths per million to our 182), and a higher total fatality level (15729 to our 12107).

So no, so far Macron is doing worse than Boris, despite his speeches.

brexit was almost over and we just had to get through the last little bit

That's some incredibly shallow thinking right there. Brexit will be a major point in politics for decades.

No country in the world maintains their health service at pandemic levels all the time. You’d literally have entire fully-staffed hospitals standing empty all the time, at incredible cost.

No one else said they did. No one has said that all countries did better - some certainly have - Taiwan and South Korea having learnt from SARS. Others like France, made mistakes, and are learning from them.
The UK - who knows? Doing slightly better than the country led by the orange fool.

I don't feel remotely sorry for him as PM. I really don't understand why people buy into this nice, hapless old buffer schtick that he led peddles.

He’s a good self promoter, I’ll give him that. A lying, cheating, moral vacuum, egomaniac, smartly wrapped up as Cuddly Brand “Boris”. It has worked a treat though, with half the country referring to him by his assumed first name. How can you vote against someone you’re on first name terms with. A senior politician boasting of constantly shaking hands in a hospital during a pandemic? Silly Boris! What are you like? Missing those ventilator emails. Tutu tut Boris. You need to read carefully!

It reminds me of the line from that movie(?) though “there’s a world of difference between being a character and having character”. The British public are not interested though, they like a clown.

I don't feel sorry for him. I'm pleased he's better because there needs to be an inquiry into how the Govt has handled this and he's got questions to answer.

DS2 is a nurse in A&E. It was weeks before he got adequate PPE. He FaceTimed me on Monday and told me that he'd been wearing out of date Govt tested masks on his last shift. The elastic had perished so they kept snapping and pinging off his face.

I'm absolutely sick of hearing that the Govt are doing their best and now Boris is some sort of Saint. They're not, and he's most definitely not.

I feel sorry for anyone who gets the disease but I have no other sympathy for him. I won't comment any further except to say that it's the easy part of Brexit that's happened the worse is still to come, by a long way.

I'm still stunned on a daily basis that the party membership and then voters thought that this man was the best for the job.

Nazanin Zaghari-Ratcliffe,
The journalist his mate wanted beaten up
Fired for lying (is that twice?)

Someone on MN once said the worst thing to happen was panel shows like HIGNFY having him and Rees-Mogg et al on allowing them to further the loveable buffoon or eccentric character acts. Totally agree.

Seriouslyastounded - I imagine you voted Tory. Such a Steve Bannon / Cummings response - blame the NHS. Astounding

Btw NZ-R is not released as in free, she is waiting to hear if she has to go back in, pushed back from the weekend. She may be freed as others have been permanently to ease the Covid19 impact.

I don't wish death on anyone but i hope he had an extremely painful and awful couple of days to wake him up to reality (fat chance) of what is going on.

Other PMs are facing exactly the same problem (yes, NZ I'm looking at you) and have handled it beautifully.

Johnson wanted the job so badly but he's bad at it. Awful.

The austerity measures that means we can afford to pay 80% of people salary for 3 months? Labour can’t run a bath never mind a country and the country knows this which is why Tories won and why they are way ahead in the polls.

You know how economies work, right? EVERY government could have done this. Every. Single. Government.

I mean, internet for all was a huge joke wasn't it? until it wasn't.

I don’t feel sorry for him particularly.

I am interested in what early intervention does for recovery. Looking at his turnaround and how they approach intervention in Germany, which is earlier.

I haven't voted because there are two separate issues.

Do I feel awful for BJ because he's been seriously ill? Yes, the same way that I do for anyone else who has experienced the same thing.

Do I feel awful that he 'just can't catch a break'? Are you fucking kidding me? You need to do some research on this pathological liar OP. Really, you do. Then research some more.

Seriously astounded have you seen the cheer yet?