To feel awful for Boris

[YouDoYou18]

A few people I know have said some awful things like ‘it serves him right’

I didn’t vote conservative, and to be honest I’ve never been a big fan of BJ himself.. but Christ do I feel awful for the poor man.

He must have thought it was going to be relatively easy, brexit was almost over and we just had to get through the last little bit and then the world fell into one of the biggest disasters in recent history...

He’s got to balance trying to save a big percentage of the population with making sure they have an economy to return to when this is over, he’s got to pull unprecedented amounts of money from thin air to support everyone through this time, everyone thinks they can do a better job and then to top it off he catches the virus himself and ends up hospitalised!

He just can’t catch a break! Whether you like him or not surely I’m not being unreasonable in feeling pretty bad for the guy?

I agree totally op.
Despite having no time for him previously, he has gone up in my estimation.
I hope, having now looked down the barrel of the gun himself, he does everything he can to safeguard people's lives.

I thought every country's health service was inadequate hence them implementing lock down to control the flow of patients?
Boris isn't to blame for the failings of the NHS, it's been lacking under every government, Labour and Tory.

I feel bad for the families of the people who have died. This was preventable

what has he done thats made him go up in your estimation?

seriouslyastounded still struggling with that beam? Matthew 7 1-5 if you are struggling

Any sign of the extra £350m a week he promised the NHS yet?

Apart from the illness, all of this is what he was desperate to sign up for. If you want power, you don't get to choose an easy ride.

As for the illness, there are currently around 15,000 dead people for whom I feel considerably more awful - and many of those would not now be dead but for Johnson's failures.

The same managers whose job it was to order in before this happened

How do you suggest they should have done that when they didn't even have enough funding for adequate staff, @Seriouslyastounded?

Boris has gone up hugely in my estimation .He has handled a very difficult period very well, and his own health has suffered as a result .He was chairing nightly meetings on Corona ,when he should have been resting! All good wishes and prayers to him and his young wife . I read today he is birdwatching kites and woodpeckers at Chequers ,and eschewing rides on his motorcycle until he is completely well .No other Pm has had to deal with a thing like this .(makes Brexit seem like a walk in the park .doesnt it?)

Absolutely feel sorry for him catching COVID and ending up in hospital.

Do I feel sorry for him because he has responsibilities as the Prime Minister?

No.

“brexit was almost over”
Hahaha. No, we handed over our membership card but are still making use of all the facilities. Britain just agreed the withdrawal agreement that’s it. Brexit will start at the end of the year when we stop participating in all EU trade trade, security, political agreements and will have to try and get an audience with every government on the planet to hammer out new ones. Great time to be doing it as there’s not much else going on lately.

brexit was almost over

Good one!

Yes, he probably thought it was going to be easy. He’s a lazy, arrogant liar who thinks everything ought to be handed to him on a plate.

Turns out being PM is hard, who knew?

As for the virus, better people than him are dying of it every day. Yes, it must be horrible for him to have been so ill (unlike others on here I think he is still looking terrible and must be struggling which can’t be nice) but he did tell us that some of us will be ill and die etc ... which is true. But because of the type of person he is, I’m quite sure he never thought he’d be one of them. So there is an element of schadenfreude I’m afraid.

In short, YABU

I read lots of people saw this coming but various governments didn't listen. Apparently Trump dismantlement a lab set up by Obama for tropical disease and sacked the top person. Apparently they had been warned that there would be other viruses after SARS but no one listened.

Boris isn't to blame for the failings of the NHS, it's been lacking under every government, Labour and Tory

Every massive organisation will struggle and make mistakes.

The Tories however chronically under funded the NHS and the key reason for needing lockdown is because the (woefully underfunded) NHS cannot cope.

Many governments have made the same mistake by thinking that you need to have a strong economy to fund public services.

No, it’s a symbiotic relationship. You need a strong healthy population to sustain a strong economy. A strong economy is nothing without a healthy population.

i am glad he is getting better.
but do I feel bad for him....no. he will be fine.
I will save my sympathy for people like care workers, shop workers and others who are putting themselves in danger and earning a pittance.
not a rich guy who didn't follow his own rules and is living in rich bubble.

YABVVVVU. Of all the people to feel sorry for in this horrific crisis, the self-serving, power-hungry, duty-shirking, limelight-seeking inflated ego that is BoJo should be so far down the list you can't see his name. And the hubris of cheering when NHS workers pay increase was rejected... I'd love to think he has enough humility to look back on that with shame and revisit that vote. But he won't. He'll see it as his natural due that impoverished serfs gladly attended 24/7 in his hour of need. Bozza's a fightah and he biffed the Covid. Anyone who fails to just lacks his Dunkirk vim. etc. Puke.

so we like him now because:

he worked when he should be resting ??
he's handling this well ???
no other pm had to handle this!

okayy

oh and this will not change him. it will make him worse, he will be like scameron and shut down debate.

Nope.
Glad he is recovering.
I am a pragmatist. Difficult decisions are part of the job and I think there needs to be perspective when it comes to judging those decisions.
For running the health service into the ground so doctors were making life and death decisions based on resources before the crisis, for voting against modest pay rises for nurses and clapping when the vote was won? Hypocritical bastard is what I would say.

@dottiedodah
Boasting of constantly shaking hands on the midst of a pandemic was probably the single most stupid thing a modern British politician has done. He not only landed himself in it, but conveyed an appalling message to the public at a time when we should have already been practicing social distancing. He managed to fall in my estimation. I always considered him a selfobsessed schemer lacking a moral compass, but I didn’t think he was an utter idiot. Someone with a very overly inflated opinion of their intellect but not a total idiot. I was wrong!

Why would you feel sorry for someone who got the "heard immunity" that he wanted us all to get? He said we will loose loved ones so he should have prepared to be one of the lost ones himself. I'm not as kind as everyone on here because I was glad he got it and dissapointed when he pulled through. Because of this racist bastard my grandfather died in a care home with strangers around him. We wernt allowed in and his main carer had already died of covid. Bearly any PPE in the care home. Only 10 of us allowed at the funeral. I came in from Gatwick in late feb. No temperature checks nothing yet other countries much poorer than the UK check your temperature before they even allow you in their airport. Money is his God and he has no heart so no, I dont feel sorry for him, I'm not happy he recovered and obviously I do not wish him well. Theres more to come to devastate you and yours from this man, watch this space...

Only sorry for him catching the virus. It makes his joke about Operation Last Gasp look particularly crass now, so let's hope he learns to cut out the witticisms in future.

If he genuinely has had some sort of Damascene conversion, then good.

In his usual cavalier, casual way he massively misjudged the threat of the virus, talked about 'taking it on the chin' and literally went out and contracted it, probably by 'shaking hands' with people already infected.

He then said he had it 'mildly' when anyone who has been following how this virus works knows you can't know if you're mild until week 2. His ego prevented him from acting appropriately once he had it (ie worked when he should have been resting) and that probably contributed to him getting so sick. He probably saw himself as strong when anyone can see he's massively overweight and a long-term drinker, so vulnerable. Having become so ill he's now left our country rudderless while he holes up in his country pile.

I'm glad he's recovered but my god could he have made a worse job of it so far? I listened to Macron's speech to the French yesterday - full of detail and humility - and wondered how we got to a place where a narcissistic joker like BJ is our PM.

Oh and he's recuperating in his palatial second home because rules don't apply to the vair vair entitled. People have squealed when this was pointed out. "But No 10 is just a flat above his work place." As if the notion of getting better in a flat is just too too awful to contemplate.

@YouDoYou18 you say. I one saw this coming. They did. Years ago. We have been warned several times over the years that something like this would happen

I’ll admit I felt weirdly emotional when I heard Boris had been moved to intensive care. Whilst I don’t like him, I don’t wish him to die but to feel sorry for the man. No.

He’s a proven liar, his incompetence and that of the party he leads has brought us to where we are. Unfortunately it’s the rest of us that have to suffer.