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To feel awful for Boris

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YouDoYou18 · 15/04/2020 07:08

A few people I know have said some awful things like ‘it serves him right’

I didn’t vote conservative, and to be honest I’ve never been a big fan of BJ himself.. but Christ do I feel awful for the poor man.

He must have thought it was going to be relatively easy, brexit was almost over and we just had to get through the last little bit and then the world fell into one of the biggest disasters in recent history...

He’s got to balance trying to save a big percentage of the population with making sure they have an economy to return to when this is over, he’s got to pull unprecedented amounts of money from thin air to support everyone through this time, everyone thinks they can do a better job and then to top it off he catches the virus himself and ends up hospitalised!

He just can’t catch a break! Whether you like him or not surely I’m not being unreasonable in feeling pretty bad for the guy?

OP posts:
TheLadyAnneNeville · 17/04/2020 00:02

Are we talking about the Boris Johnson who believes that “some people are just too stupid to get on in life”? The same who felt that young girls should be plunged into Victorian-style destitution to prevent them from having babies”? The man who claimed that there were 400,000 fewer children living in poverty now than ... ????? Well, he’d made up the number so whenever it was supposed to be is equally irrelevant.

The man lies. Cheats. Is disdainful of the electorate. Is a racist. Has no time (or money) for bringing paedophiles to justice. He thinks children of single mums are brought up to hang about “on street corners waiting to mug you”. He stated an person could not survive on £140k a year.

I detest the man. I wish him a full recovery but I really do detest him.

CendrillonSings · 17/04/2020 00:32

Boris, the lying, cheating, racist, ableist, classist, sexist homophobe?

And ... the Prime Minister!

DeeCeeCherry · 17/04/2020 00:37

You feel 'awful' for BJ? Yeah I bet you do

GrimDamnFanjo · 17/04/2020 00:40

Although I'm pleased he's recovering I just know that being ill will enable him to shift the blame elsewhere in the future.

PigletJohn · 17/04/2020 00:43

@CendrillonSings

Boris, the lying, cheating, racist, ableist, classist, sexist homophobe?

Yes, that's the one.

To feel awful for Boris
Lifeisgenerallyfun · 17/04/2020 00:57

I do feel bad for him, he’s had a very close call with a terrible illness. Anyone saying “serves him right” is a dick.

I could stand here and say the nhs has been massively underfunded by both main parties and the structures put in place by Labour really fucked it up.

I could stand here and defend his position on Brexit and say look at how each member state has effectively locked down, France and Germany allegedly blocking ppe into Italy. Even the EU have admitted its fucked up (probably after a very telling interview with the Italian PM).

But such views don’t fly on mumsnet. The lack of critical thinking is often overwhelming (or maybe that should be underwhelming) in an attempt to show how liberal and on point they are.

Yes ideally things could have been done better, more PPE etc but this is a very fast moving and largely unknown situation (not helped by the increasingly obvious position that China was telling quite a few lies).

It’s a shit position to be in, I doubt anyone could have done any better, let’s face it if Jeremy Corbyn would have been in charge it would have been even worse than it is now

FliesandPies · 17/04/2020 01:10

Yes ideally things could have been done better, more PPE etc but this is a very fast moving and largely unknown situation

Finally! Even an abject apologist of the worst PM in living memory will admit that things could have been done better. The 'fast moving, largely unknown' stuff is crap of course but even the tiniest bit of honesty is welcome.

PurpleTrilby · 17/04/2020 01:22

Be a sentimental, fawning serf all you want, but I don't fall for it. He's a psychopathic bastard who would sell you and your kids as soon as blink. In fact he will sell us, to the US model of privatised healthcare very fucking soon. You watch, he's coming for you. Then how sorry will you feel?

Actionhasmagic · 17/04/2020 01:26

I feel awful for the nurse who died just before giving birth,

e1y1 · 17/04/2020 01:45

for10 years so have had a decade to get it right, but alas what's coming will be far far far worse than anything since the great depression and with the added hit to the economy of brexit you'll not be able to blame labour for any of it

But God knows they're going to it a very good try.

e1y1 · 17/04/2020 01:45

*give

CendrillonSings · 17/04/2020 01:47

PigletJohn

You think that stupid poster proves he’s “unfit for office”? Nope - he won a landslide and has as strong a democratic mandate as you could wish for. Unlike that silly old Marxist - what was his name again? Wink

Tolleshunt · 17/04/2020 01:49

Boris’s predicament reminds me very much of the Greek tragedies - it’s as though the gods are punishing him for his hubris.

He’s got what he wanted. I wonder if he still wants it?

I don’t feel sorry for him.

Dazedandconfusedpart2 · 17/04/2020 03:06

@CendrillonSings

Being Scottish I, and the very vast majority of us, voted about as far from Tory as you can get. The Conservatives here lost more than half their seats (6 down from 13). I'm not sure that could be called a democratic mandate but then, the reasons for that is a whole other thread. It's neither the time nor place and that's not what the other posters are here for.

He may have won by a landslide in Englad but that's far from the only place in the UK that should count.

It's a bad day when the 'Prime Minister' is also all those other things. I'm in no way convinced that his title really negates everything else about him. His premiership makes us a global laughing stock frankly.

user764329056 · 17/04/2020 03:22

Snowjive2, hear hear 👏🏼

BelfastNonBlonde · 17/04/2020 03:33

Unreasonable - for so many reasons

Hmmmm88 · 17/04/2020 07:12

I agree with you OP disgusting people would wish another human being death because of different political views.

He's a father a partner a brother a son. It's just sick and he is trying his best to pull the country through this and we should be supporting him.

HarrySnotter · 17/04/2020 07:20

@Hmmmm88 Genuinely, who has wished him dead on this thread? I may have missed some posts (apologies if that's the case) but I can't see anyone actually wishing the man dead.

Hmmmm88 · 17/04/2020 07:24

@HarrySnotter not on this thread but there was lots of it on social media when he first got admitted into hospital

WiseUpJanetWeiss · 17/04/2020 07:43

I could stand here and say the nhs has been massively underfunded by both main parties and the structures put in place by Labour really fucked it up.

Labour fucked it up? It really is 1984, isn’t it?

It was Andrew Lansley who fucked it up. Truly. The “reforms” were the disaster they were predicted to be. The fact the NHS has been able to mount the response it has to this virus is down to highly committed individuals and teams driving through the “structures” he created.

WiseUpJanetWeiss · 17/04/2020 07:52

I agree with you OP disgusting people would wish another human being death because of different political views.

Agree. I’m truly glad he has recovered. I would not wish death or fear on anyone.

He's a father a partner a brother a son.

Yes, and I am pleased for them that they have not lost him. I know the fear of thinking my DH would die, and wishing that on anyone would be just sick.

It's just sick

Indeed, see above.

and he is trying his best to pull the country through this

That remains to be seen. His attitude before this was cavalier. He has lied and obfuscated, and I did not trust him to put the people before his ambitions and cronies’ financial interests. Let’s See if this has mellowed him at all.

and we should be supporting him.

No. We should be holding him to account. He’s our elected leader, but if he turns out to be the pied piper we need absolutely to call that out.

HarrySnotter · 17/04/2020 07:55

@WiseUpJanetWeiss great post, I absolutely agree.

whenwillthemadnessend · 17/04/2020 08:01

I agree op He hasn't had a good run.

The NHS are actually coping well in such a different situation to normal and don't forget the entire world is competing for the ,same tests, same gowns, same masks. This is globalisation at work not torys. ANY govt would facing these issues. I also find it hard to imagine Snorbyn acting quickly and more effectively as he sits in the fence.

We have to face it. This virus kills people. Sadly it kills those more vulnerable. We could chuck all the money at it and people would still die.

Some countries gave fared better but I actually think Germany have skewed figures. The only country I feel have been amazing are South Korea.

whenwillthemadnessend · 17/04/2020 08:06

I do hope that when this is over we achieve 3 things

  1. Appreciate the environment and do more to Protect it.
  2. Globalisation slows so we are not so reliant on other countries particularly for medicine and medical equipment
  3. Wet markets are stopped.
BillStickersIsInnocent · 17/04/2020 08:16

Wet markets aren’t the issue - that’s just any market that sells fresh fish and meat.

It’s wildlife markets that are the problem, esp when they exist within or next to wet markets.