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To feel awful for Boris

410 replies

YouDoYou18 · 15/04/2020 07:08

A few people I know have said some awful things like ‘it serves him right’

I didn’t vote conservative, and to be honest I’ve never been a big fan of BJ himself.. but Christ do I feel awful for the poor man.

He must have thought it was going to be relatively easy, brexit was almost over and we just had to get through the last little bit and then the world fell into one of the biggest disasters in recent history...

He’s got to balance trying to save a big percentage of the population with making sure they have an economy to return to when this is over, he’s got to pull unprecedented amounts of money from thin air to support everyone through this time, everyone thinks they can do a better job and then to top it off he catches the virus himself and ends up hospitalised!

He just can’t catch a break! Whether you like him or not surely I’m not being unreasonable in feeling pretty bad for the guy?

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notaflyingmonkey · 15/04/2020 08:31

I feel sorry for Abdul Mabud Chowdhury, the doctor who warned the prime minister about the lack of personal protective equipment for NHS workers who died after contracting coronavirus.

Let's remember Boris flouted the government's own advice on personal safety. 'I was at a hospital where there were a few coronavirus patients and I shook hands with everybody'.

ilovemydogandMrObama · 15/04/2020 08:32

The British public are not interested though, they like a clown.

^ This - Remember the time the Speaker of the House pulled him up on how he was addressing Emily Thornberry? He came across as a boy who hadn't ever been scolded about his behaviour and either was truly sorry, or was so disingenuous - not sure which. Hmm

FreakStar · 15/04/2020 08:32

This will hopefully be the making of Boris Johnson. Lets hope he finally grows up and becomes a better man for it!

cdtaylornats · 15/04/2020 08:33

the damage his party has done to the NHS

When did Boris join Labour?

Cam77 · 15/04/2020 08:35

@cdtaylornats
Public Satisfaction with the NHS was sky high under New Labour compared to Tory government both before and after. I have already posted a link regarding this.

LivingOnAnIsland · 15/04/2020 08:35

I agree with you - it's such a shame that a parenting site is overrun by so many left-wing, bullying sheep.

Moomin12345 · 15/04/2020 08:36

Is that you Boris?

MarshaBradyo · 15/04/2020 08:36

It’s probably been a bit of a wake up from jolly Brexit japes with his friends and Cumming’s lines to a crisis which actually did affect him personally.

I did want him to recover but it might do him good to know what we’re facing.

FreakStar · 15/04/2020 08:37

In fact, this crisis could be the thing that saves the UK from the Tory party if it enlightens them to the fact that their policies are twisted and looking after the already rich isn't the way to build a truly great economy.

NiteFlights · 15/04/2020 08:37

He and his merry band of twats

@penisbeakers thanks, you made me laugh Grin

Janaih · 15/04/2020 08:38

The first case is covid in this country was on the 31st January. Lot of dither and delay when fast action then could have saved more lives.
Brexit is nowhere near done.
You dont have to be a hard leftie to criticise Tories. I am fairly central in my politics. Maybe a slight lean to the left.

LivingOnAnIsland · 15/04/2020 08:39

I rest my case.

HarrySnotter · 15/04/2020 08:39

I agree with you - it's such a shame that a parenting site is overrun by so many left-wing, bullying sheep.

Who's bullying @LivingOnAnIsland? And who are they bullying?

StrongMama1989 · 15/04/2020 08:41

To be honest I have no idea how on earth he got to be PM but yeh I don’t feel any harm on him, I think he’s just a bit of an idiot which he can’t help, and although I am NOT a Tory I am not sure how much better labour could have done in this situation, they’re all a bunch of useless dick Ed’s

Lexijayde44 · 15/04/2020 08:42

I've never followed politics. I don't think Boris is to blame. He will have people above him and he's just on the front line dealing with it.

It's horrible that he got coronavirus and needed treatment. But I do think the government have destroyed our NHS in the last ten years especially. I don't know the ins and outs of all hospitals obviously! I'm just a random person. Our hospital 10 years ago had a maternity unit and a 24/7 a&e. You could only have straight forward births there in the last few years before it closed in 2012. But they had all the other services. When I had my first child in 2015 it was obviously closed for births but they still had the antenatal care. I had to go 50 minutes from my home to have my baby. In 2017 the management team had taken the antenatal corridor of the midwives and they were squashed in 2 small rooms. The midwives were all fed up and one was leaving due to the way her job had changed. She could no longer deliver babies or work on a ward.

Then 5 years ago they decided our a&e couldn't run at night so they closed it. People have been campaigning for 5 years as we are a big town. But so far no joy. Our a&e also can't deal with children and babies now unless it's a minor issue. So it's 45 minutes to the nearest hospital for peadtric care.

Also when I had my babies they needed scans done very young. Had to travel all the way to the one they were born at. Also my son was in hospital for 4 nights last year. I couldn't hardly see him. His dad stayed with him. I couldn't drive and he was in another town!

My daughter's hearing test meant a whole day of school because our local hospital doesn't do hearing tests. So we had to travel!

My friends just had skin cancer removed and she had several appointments an hour away because our hospital cut all those services too. She really struggled getting there and back and paying for parking etc. Her son was at school and she had to get him picked up etc.

These are just some examples. They have chipped away at smaller hospitals. The large hospitals can't cope under the strain. You've got that huge hospital in liverpool that has never been completed due to the company going bust.

Theres a huge shortage of GPS and people can't get appointments for weeks now.

Our local nursing school shut 8 years ago. So you can't train to be a nurse locally anymore. Quite a few of the nurses and community midwives at our local hospital trained here years ago and got their jobs in the town they lived in. Imagine wanting to work in a hospital now. You would be traveling to cities to train. It would involve alot of travel. Plus once trained you would be travelling too. It is alot harder to fit your family in around it when it's so complex. They really don't make it easy for anyone.

I don't blame Boris. But I don't blame the government for letting what was once a great healthcare system go to crap. It needed pumping with money a long time ago. Amazing how they have got all this money now to pay for this and that.

ludicrouslemons · 15/04/2020 08:42

Absolutely not.

In 2016 there was a practise run for what would happen if a pandemic occurred in the UK. It showed it would be terrible. They did fuck all in response because they were all distracted by Brexit.

www.politicshome.com/news/article/nhs-failed-2016-pandemic-practice-run-unpublished-report-reveals

Not to mention that Brexit is squarely due to Johnson doing his people's clown routine. All the EU-national key workers who left the UK after that could have saved lives. The government refused an offer fromthe EU to source ventilators THREE TIMES because they don't want the EU to look good.

I'm not even convinced Johnson had CV, seems like a PR ploy to me. But if he did, why was it all about going for tests, breathing on his own and then once he leaves hospital they say it was hanging in the balance, could have gone either way? He either was critically ill or he wasn't.

Not to mention, they'll be trying to use this to hide the scandals on Arcuri, Russian interference in political processes, Priti Patel.

Johnson is just completely unworthy of the office of PM. He's a hack. He doesn't know how to take responsibility for anything. He appointed a cabinet of toadies who aren't competent either. It's a shit show.

Hingeandbracket · 15/04/2020 08:43

First time I've ever heard of sheep bullying Grin

NoWordForFluffy · 15/04/2020 08:44

@Seriouslyastounded, I have no idea how you kept a straight face saying this: 'Look into it and stop reading left propaganda', whilst regurgitating right propaganda lies about Keir Starmer. It's like you're a ring wing sheep who doesn't do their research before posting. 🤔🤔🤔

Oh, the irony!

NoWordForFluffy · 15/04/2020 08:45

Right wing sheep, not ring wing! 😂

Quarantimespringclean · 15/04/2020 08:47

Him, May and Trump all jockeyed for status and the top job and got it. IMO they were all motivated by ego and self interest and none of them were equipped to handle the power they eventually ‘won’.

I wish Boris no ill and I hope he makes a full recovery, as I do anyone who contracts this virus but he is a powerful reminder of the old adage ‘Be careful what you wish for, for you will surely get it’.

TheFaerieQueene · 15/04/2020 08:47

Based on your one comment that brexit was nearly done tells me you haven’t got a clue. Brexit will take years to finalise- and now, perhaps never (I hope).

Port1aCastis · 15/04/2020 08:49

I reserve my sympathy for the relatives of the deceased and cannot get upset about someone who is a proven liar but I do not wish him ill but he took the job on

Brefugee · 15/04/2020 08:50

is this normal in the UK?
I've never followed politics. I don't think Boris is to blame. He will have people above him and he's just on the front line dealing with it.

How can you not know that Johnson is the Prime Minister. The clue is in the name: there isn't anyone above him.

FreakStar · 15/04/2020 08:53

This is not the first thread I've seen recently where posters sneer at anyone criticising the current government. It seems since Boris won such a large majority that his supporters try to make out that the left (or anyone who didn't vote conservative) are a minority now. They are not. Less than 50% of of voters actually voted Tory!

newusername2009 · 15/04/2020 08:54

Wow - can’t believe some of these comments! Yes I feel sorry for him

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