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To feel awful for Boris

410 replies

YouDoYou18 · 15/04/2020 07:08

A few people I know have said some awful things like ‘it serves him right’

I didn’t vote conservative, and to be honest I’ve never been a big fan of BJ himself.. but Christ do I feel awful for the poor man.

He must have thought it was going to be relatively easy, brexit was almost over and we just had to get through the last little bit and then the world fell into one of the biggest disasters in recent history...

He’s got to balance trying to save a big percentage of the population with making sure they have an economy to return to when this is over, he’s got to pull unprecedented amounts of money from thin air to support everyone through this time, everyone thinks they can do a better job and then to top it off he catches the virus himself and ends up hospitalised!

He just can’t catch a break! Whether you like him or not surely I’m not being unreasonable in feeling pretty bad for the guy?

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MarmotMorning · 15/04/2020 07:23

By the way, Brexit wasn't nearly done. If it wasn't for the virus we'd currently be in a shit storm about whether we were going to get a trade deal.

Notpanickingjustyet · 15/04/2020 07:24

I did feel sorry for him but when I saw 2 paramedics yesterday in the flimsiest of 'PPE' I felt saddened. The conversations we had suggested that the government couldn't give a toss i.e not having access to a test for themselves and 111 suggesting that everyone call out an ambulance etc.
You know it goes on but it hits you when you see it in real life.
It's a terrible situation and a disregard for the NHS. But I don't work for them so probably don't have the authority to say that.

Thethiniceofanewday · 15/04/2020 07:26

brexit was almost over

No it wasn’t.

SimonJT · 15/04/2020 07:26

I struggle to have sympathy for a racist, sexist, homophobia prick.

Theduchessstill · 15/04/2020 07:26

Seriouslyastounded

The amount paid into the NHS grows every year but for the 8 years from 2010 the amount increased half as much each year than it had increased each year in the 10 years before that. It's on its knees like all the other public services thanks to 10 years of Tory rule.

rwalker · 15/04/2020 07:26

I would fell sorry for ANY PM we have at the moment we are in unchartered waters .They are learning as they go and EVERY country is struggling yet we are only struggling because of Boris.
Todays socitiey love nothing better to pick fault. There a lot of mis information and people love nothing better putting the knife in.

It's constant they were very open about dead rate figure daily one just hospital and weekly one everything . Then next thing big campaign saying they are lying no they told us this .

PPE every country it's a worldwide shortage yet ours is just done to Boris how come then practically the entire world got it wrong was that down to Boris.

The constant accusations and all deter and take resources away from whats going on

Fallsballs · 15/04/2020 07:27

And I think people should stop saying about his ‘poor pregnant girlfriend’. I doubt she needs or wants the sympathy given she chose to be with him .
He’s failed us and people will die because of his government’s decisions.

Cosmodian · 15/04/2020 07:28

brexit was almost over

huh?

YouDoYou18 · 15/04/2020 07:28

Like I said I didn’t vote for him, and have never been a fan. I never said he’s done everything right, all I’m saying is I do feel bad for the guy. No one saw this coming and I wouldn’t wish it on my worst enemy to be honest

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Tellmetruth4 · 15/04/2020 07:28

His rise to the top and tenure is like the 21st century version of Hamlet. It’s almost the textbook definition of the Pyrrhic victory.

Tellmetruth4 · 15/04/2020 07:29

...and by the way only part one of Brexit was over and that was the easy bit.

Fallsballs · 15/04/2020 07:29

Oh ffs OP he’s the PM 🙄

honeylou42 · 15/04/2020 07:29

Love Boris and think he has done an amazing job so far Smile

Theduchessstill · 15/04/2020 07:30

rwalker How do you explain the fact that one of the government's own advisers thinks Britain may end up with the worst outcome in Europe?

Fallsballs · 15/04/2020 07:30

Honey- get some fresh air love.

suburbanwar · 15/04/2020 07:30

No. I'm glad he's recovered, but I'm also glad that after the utterly ruthless way in which he's schemed his way to the top, he's had to learn pretty rapidly that the job doesn't just entail swanning about and leading by meaningless platitudes.

I feel sorry for anyone who's needlessly lost a member of their family or someone very close to them. I feel sorry for all the individual people who have been thrown under the bus in this crisis, including those who are having to make tough decisions about PPE usage, those on universal credit and if the worst comes to it, those who may have to make decisions about ventilators in the future. I feel sorry for anyone who is worried about job security or their loss of earnings.

I do not feel sorry for him and the laissez faire, socially irresponsible way that he and his government dealt with this in the early weeks, despite seeing this coming.

Yet I don't think his reputation will be destroyed by this, even though it ought to be.

MysteriesOfTheOrganism · 15/04/2020 07:30

I feel sorry for him as a human being. He's had a close brush with death, and I'm glad he's pulled through. I don't feel sorry for him as a politician and the style and values he represents. There's an old saying "Be careful what you wish for - the gods may grant it." He wanted to be PM - he got it, and now has to deal with whatever the country faces. No, it's not what he wanted to face - but that's true for all of us every day of our lives. If his fantasies have been pricked, so much the better. It may make him mature as a person.

BudgieHammockBananaSmuggler · 15/04/2020 07:31

I’m sorry he got ill, though of course he was never quite as ill as normal people that end up in ITU.

But he wanted and schemed to be PM for years. With great power comes great responsibility (to quote the great philosophers Grin ). No sympathy for him that it turns out to be a harder job than he expected. More sympathy for the country that now has to deal with his ‘style’ over substance leadership.

MordredsOrrery · 15/04/2020 07:32

everyone thinks they can do a better job

Boris has thought he can do a better job than every PM for at least a decade. He's finally got his chance and is discovering it isn't quite as easy to sweet talk, charm and cajole the population and politicians (domestic and foreign) as he imagined.

Bluntly, getting C19 and surviving was the best thing that could've happened at this point because now lots of people are willing to let him off the hook for his failures.

He has delivered nothing, but has divided the nation for years. He thought once he was PM he could convince people to ignore the chasm he helped create. To this end he has employed people like Dominic Cummins - the most influential unelected bureaucrat in quite some time.

I don't feel sorry for him, I feel sorry for the people whose lives have been damaged by his hubris

KitKat1985 · 15/04/2020 07:32

I don't wish the man any personal harm, but he has done the country no favours at all in the past few years, and has been responsible for significant damage and underfunding of the NHS for years.

Just take a second of your day to re-watch the moment all the Conservative ministers cheered a few years ago when pay rises for NHS staff were blocked.

Or maybe watch the moment recently that MPs granted themselves a 10k allowance to work from home.... Do you know how much extra I'm getting paid OP for working as a nurse on the front line, and risking bring covid19 home to my family wearing shit PPE all day? Fuck all extra at all.

Mummyoflittledragon · 15/04/2020 07:33

Feel sorry for the buffoon, who backed brexit to get his current job? Fuck no!!

PenisBeakerDipper · 15/04/2020 07:33

No, politics aside, he’s just downright sleezy and violent towards women.

TwentyViginti · 15/04/2020 07:33

And lo, The Stricken Boris was risen on Easter Day and went forth to Chequers to recuperate with The Partner. His party disciples were left in awe and wonder.

And the Left Sheep did roll their eyes and rend their garments at the lack of PPE which did leave the healers in great peril.

AnnaNimmity · 15/04/2020 07:34

yep, you are being unreasonable.

Even if you ignore everything else he has ever done or said, everything else the Tory party he leads has done or said, his actions since Christmas will lead to the deaths of countless people who would have survived had he not been such a cunt who only cares about the economy.

That's all.

I will never feel sorry for that man.

Peapod29 · 15/04/2020 07:34

I don’t feel sorry for him at all. I think it’s quite funny that he schemed for years to become PM, drove us into the disaster that is brexit for his personal gain, and now he has to deal with this. It’s probably what people call Karma. There is an innocent woman still rotting in jail in Iran who should be at home with her child because of his laziness (although luckily she has been released since the corona crisis thank god).