Boris and the Virus

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Intensive care at the crossroads of life and death, 3 days later suited and booted and giving speeches. Fishy or what?

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I've met many people who work 9-5 and many who work a mix of all the other variables.

Some, believe everything they are told and some don't, with a range from completely devoid of any independant thinking, to bat shit crazy theorists.
I'm somewhere around the middle.
I don't see how the hours you work, or indeed the job you do, has anything to do with it.

is the David Icke forum closed or something

I'd laugh, but the thing is it's spilling over into RL.
I've already had completely rational, usually lovely, people on FB who I know very well come out with both 5G nonsense and now Boris is a faker conspiracies.
Just because "well he's Tory and I wouldn't put it past him"
I don't even bloody vote Tory but even I can see this is madness.
This CV virus is turning normally sane people into paranoid wrecks.

Hey schuyler, “boris and the virus” is my intellectual property - you can have the dickhead dog though 😂

i havent RTFT but, he didnt look so well while in suit, he still looked a bit ill.

I think he'll be a national hero after being in hospital - I wish him a full recovery but he's still an asshole!

I think 'the Dickhead Dogs' would make a great punk band name.

Why would anyone who has recovered from a virus be considered a 'National Hero' though? That makes no sense!

Wait and see Boris will have taken on a new status...it's already taking place in the way people are talking about him.

Which is why people are slightly at the whole thing I think.

But if he's a national hero so should every other poor bugger be who has come through it. As well as those who haven't. Because the narrative is that 'if you fight hard enough, you can overcome'.

It's war rhetoric.
He's not a hero. He's someone who shook hands with Covid patients to 'prove' his invincibility, then fell ill and recovered, to rally his country and his followers.

So not a hero to me. Just a bloke who got sick because he didn't heed the very precautions that health professionals were purporting to the general public; someone who was just bloody lucky to have the best care in the country and who's probably spinning it to his own advantage. As politicians do.

I bet most people with his level of sickness would never have made it to ICU in time (and he supposedly ignored medical advice and delayed going in - what a "hero", ignoring medical advice.....)

He does have form for vanishing every time there's a crisis. It's hard for people to be furious about 13,000+ people in the UK dying because of the way you've handled the situation when you're extremely ill with it yourself, apparently - so there's one advantage. People keep saying the staff at the hospital wouldn't have lied, or given him a bed if he wasn't really ill. Again, I'm not aware they've made any statements about it, so no lies necessary. They wouldn't actually have had to do anything. I stand by my right to be extremely sceptical of everything a proven liar says. You can believe him if it feels right to you.

Can I ask, do the people who believe that Boris Johnson was faking also believe that Jeremy Corbyn wasn't anti-semitic?

I personally don't think he needed ITU care and a "normal" person would not have been admitted at the stage he was.... i.e went to hospital in a car.

Normal folk are dying at home as 111 is telling them they are not ill enough to go to hospital.

It's true that not all patients in ITU are ventilated but they need a lot more intervention then 4L of oxygen. I give more then that to my patients post op!

So, yes l do feel very aggrieved that he was put in ITU and is being placed in the same category as those who are truely fighting for their life, l do feel peeved that he got admitted when other's have to struggle at home ...and consequently are too ill to be saved by the time they are admitted...

But.... it is what it is. "Important" people will always be treated more favourably, cautiously and will have lower trigger thresholds for care..... simply because they are in the public eye and it would be a PR nightmare for the hospital if something happened to them.

I don't doubt that he has had the virus and it's very ironic that he got treated in an NHS hospital and not a private.

I really hope....but doubt... that when this is over, whoever is in charge of our country invests in the NHS because there will be other pandemics in the future.... and this crisis has shown how needed the NHS is.... and how the private sector is not as equipped for these patients.

I’m pleased he made a recovery and I hope he comes out of this with a new respect for the nhs, bothers to properly fund it going forward and tries not to sell it off to Donald Trump.

I actually do believe he had it mainly because he looked like shit on his last video.

But I totally understand why some people don't believe him. He's a known liar and has been known to just say whatever serves him best as opposed to what is true. We also know that politicians have spin doctors which help direct the media narrative and once he was hospitalised a lot of the criticism of his handling of the pandemic was replaced by calls for a 'Boris clap'. I don't blame people for thinking we haven't been told the whole truth at all.

Also the 'he is risen' headlines over Easter were extremely crass.

People who use the word 'sheeple'. You obviously know nothing about sheep. They're not very keen on being organised or told what to do. It's an insult to sheep. People who use the word have special inside knowledge of the world - not.

I'm somewhere around the middle.
Anyone who calls people sheeple is not "in the middle".

I don't see how the hours you work, or indeed the job you do, has anything to do with it.

You once said that you and your family call anyone who goes to work and comes home at the same time everyday sheeple. Just wondering if you meant it that way or the classic conspiracy loon way.